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mojolicious

macrumors 68000
Mar 18, 2014
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The current Mini runs on Ivy Bridge, Haswell had been released and then refreshed since it came out, so those processors are cheaper by now.
The retail price i5-3210M was $225 when introduced, and is now $140. Haven't a clue how much Apple would be paying for them. Everything else is up a bit (RAM) or down a bit (HDD) and probably evens out.

But... fuel prices, electricity prices, labour costs (particularly as Apple doesn't want to be seen as too sweat-shoppy) must go a very long way to offsetting the CPU savings.

If it nows costs Apple $20 less than it did in 2012 to manufacture an i5 Mini and get it to a retailer or your mailbox, I'd be surprised.

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True or not, it's irrelevant. Cost of Goods Sold is rarely relevant to pricing non-commodity and/or non-value-positioned products.
Oh yes, I absolutely agree. I wouldn't expect the price of (looks around the room) my daughter's Converse All Stars (lying discarded in the middle of the floor) to fall, just because they're identical to the ones I wore 30+ years ago.

Right.

Must do some tidying up.

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I like the 0/0 idea. How would it be different from a hackintosh?
Well for one, no worries when applying an OSX update... :cool:
This, basically. Every component other than RAM and storage is 'Built For OSX' so no messing around with and DSDT and kexts and stuff.

I'm sure I vaguely remember Macs being available in 0/0 configuration, back in the 68030/68040 days. Or perhaps I'm going senile.

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...and here in London, less than 44% of Tuesday remains.

:(
 

ABC5S

Suspended
Sep 10, 2013
3,395
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Will hold off until the Iris Pro, and 802.11 ac is offered. Why would anyone want to purchase the old HD4000 graphics and the 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless ? :confused: Not me. ;) that would be just plain dumb unless your old system is on its last leg.
 

deeddawg

macrumors G5
Jun 14, 2010
12,468
6,571
US
Why would anyone want to purchase the old HD4000 graphics and the 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless ? :confused: Not me. ;) that would be just plain dumb unless your old system is on its last leg.

It's a good idea to step outside oneself sometimes and consider different needs / priorities.

Since WWDC was around the corner I waited until then to see if something was released, and when it wasn't I pulled the trigger on a refurb mini.

In my case I had a MBA13 that I often use with monitor/keybd but need more memory and storage for some things I want to do. Plus it's become a bit annoying to connect/disconnect the MBA to power/usb/display. When considering the price of a thunderbolt dock and that it'd mean I only had to jack around with two connectors instead of three (and still not get a memory upgrade), a mini was the better solution.

I don't play games or do anything where the GPU would make a noticeable difference, so HD4000 vs Iris is meaningless. Wireless isn't relevant since I'm using a hardwired network connection for it. Also, very little of what I do is cpu bound, so any cpu speed increases from Haswell wouldn't be noticeable for me either. The only real benefit to me from a new mini would be a reduced price on refurb 2012 models.

Just my $0.02 :cool:
 

philipma1957

macrumors 603
Apr 13, 2010
6,403
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Howell, New Jersey
Tuesday is here! And so is the New Mac Mini! Hooray! Oh, wait...But next tuesday is only a week away!

But we are getting closer to 2000 posts. Did the new iMac drop?

I do not want one but if it dropped that would be the end of a mini chance for a while. I read the iMac was going to drop later this week. I could go to the page but I am not wanting to look at it.
 

Crosscreek

macrumors 68030
Nov 19, 2013
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But we are getting closer to 2000 posts. Did the new iMac drop?

I do not want one but if it dropped that would be the end of a mini chance for a while. I read the iMac was going to drop later this week. I could go to the page but I am not wanting to look at it.

not yet....i think it was with in 10 days from the first notice.
 

Micky Do

macrumors 68020
Aug 31, 2012
2,217
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I agree with you to some extent...it's still TWO year old tech at top dollar. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's holding off of buying a Mac Mini for this reason, in fact I've seen people on this very thread also complaining about the same thing, BUT I do agree we are not so many that a price drop would drive sales up significantly.

The truth is that the odd holding out, antsy geek is irrelevant.

As long as the average Joe or Jill keeps on buying the current Mini at the current price, you don't matter.
 

Newfiebill

macrumors regular
Jan 6, 2011
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Prize??

I think MacRumors should offer a Prize for the 2,000th post on this Thread. I have the "Perfect Prize" in mind.... a Shiny New 2014 MacMini, which is being released today, Tuesday... LOL
 

007p

macrumors 6502a
Mar 7, 2012
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So does the iMac refresh have to come today, else next Tuesday or possibly never? - I.e can't come later this week.

Obviously mini is completely unknown still...
 

philipma1957

macrumors 603
Apr 13, 2010
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So does the iMac refresh have to come today, else next Tuesday or possibly never? - I.e can't come later this week.

Obviously mini is completely unknown still...

but we are getting to the elusive 2000 point under 91 left. lets make a good push to that mark get it over with then get back to the fact that they have not given us that new machine.

Tomorrow I build pc with an i7 4790 cpu a 400 dollar gigabyte mobo. a nice fractal design r4 case.

a 1tb samsung ssd and a samsung blu ray player 2 stick of 8gb ram and last a hd7970 gpu. I then run windows 7 with it. drifting a little bit more from Apple.

nice thing is the build above is under 2k 1000 less then a mac pro . thus I will still have 1 k to buy that 2014 mini if it ever show up.
 

Crosscreek

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Nov 19, 2013
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but we are getting to the elusive 2000 point under 91 left. lets make a good push to that mark get it over with then get back to the fact that they have not given us that new machine.

Tomorrow I build pc with an i7 4790 cpu a 400 dollar gigabyte mobo. a nice fractal design r4 case.

a 1tb samsung ssd and a samsung blu ray player 2 stick of 8gb ram and last a hd7970 gpu. I then run windows 7 with it. drifting a little bit more from Apple.

nice thing is the build above is under 2k 1000 less then a mac pro . thus I will still have 1 k to buy that 2014 mini if it ever show up.

I just hope it doesn't drop until it has Broadwell I7 with TB2, HDMI2.0, with upgradeable RAM and HD.
Give me a fully capable 4k machine for the ultimate HTPC. :)
 

imanidiot

macrumors 6502a
May 1, 2011
735
592
Denver, CO
Obviously mini is completely unknown still...

Nothing could be further from the truth. The new Mini is so close to being here that it's all-but-here. In fact, it is here but simply hasn't revealed itself as yet. It's right around the corner, either today or next Tuesday or the one after that at the latest, or if not, then on a Tuesday soon to come, a Tuesday playing near you, or maybe next year or possibly 2016, at the absolute max. How could you come here (to this venerable thread) and say something as preposterous as "Obviously the mini is completely unknown still..."? Where are your manners? Have you read each and every one of the 1900+ posts? And if you have (and I feel truly sorry for you if you have), how could you say something that so flies in the face of our collective wisdom? "The mini is completely unknown still", balderdash. It is COMPLETELY known and is almost certainly coming absolutely for sure maybe. Unless it doesn't.
 

scottsjack

macrumors 68000
Aug 25, 2010
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311
Arizona
Nothing could be further from the truth. The new Mini is so close to being here that it's all-but-here. In fact, it is here but simply hasn't revealed itself as yet. It's right around the corner, either today or next Tuesday or the one after that at the latest, or if not, then on a Tuesday soon to come, a Tuesday playing near you, or maybe next year or possibly 2016, at the absolute max. How could you come here (to this venerable thread) and say something as preposterous as "Obviously the mini is completely unknown still..."? Where are your manners? Have you read each and every one of the 1900+ posts? And if you have (and I feel truly sorry for you if you have), how could you say something that so flies in the face of our collective wisdom? "The mini is completely unknown still", balderdash. It is COMPLETELY known and is almost certainly coming absolutely for sure maybe. Unless it doesn't.

Oh to be young and have hope. . . .
 

imanidiot

macrumors 6502a
May 1, 2011
735
592
Denver, CO
Oh to be young and have hope. . . .

Unfortunately I am not young and I have no hope. And I don't even want a Mac Mini. I just find the resilience of this thread sort of mind-numbing and inexplicable. It's like watching a slow-motion head-on collision. You know there's going to be carnage but it's taking so long to happen. My personal feeling is that if, by this time, anyone still really believes that there will be a new Mini, they probably also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny. And that in another life, Steve Jobs would have been their best friend. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that...it's all part of the Apple ethos...things are what you want them to be, not what they are...What will your verse be?
 

Crosscreek

macrumors 68030
Nov 19, 2013
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Unfortunately I am not young and I have no hope. And I don't even want a Mac Mini. I just find the resilience of this thread sort of mind-numbing and inexplicable. It's like watching a slow-motion head-on collision. You know there's going to be carnage but it's taking so long to happen. My personal feeling is that if, by this time, anyone still really believes that there will be a new Mini, they probably also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny. And that in another life, Steve Jobs would have been their best friend. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that...it's all part of the Apple ethos...things are what you want them to be, not what they are...

Your wisdom is beyond words...........
 

funaroma

macrumors newbie
Jan 29, 2014
16
0
Mac Mini coming, but no more waiting for me

So i posted a while back that i would be patient, but a couple weeks ago my patience ran out. I've been wanting to get back to work on Pro Tools, and windows is just not an option when I need to be creative and/or productive with audio.

Best Buy had an i7 mini on sale for like $750 and I grabbed it.

I purchased a 240GB OWC SSD and an external usb drive enclosure for the 1TB OEM drive, and 16GB RAM.

This mini is KILLER. Just plain KILLER. Fast, easy and rock solid with Pro Tools 10.3.9, on OS X 10.8.5.

Learning OS X after over 20 years in the Windows world was cake. I am now productive on either platform.

If a new mini DOES come out, I'd consider it... but not right away. I'm 100% satisfied with this. If other people are having a similar experience with 2+ year old technology, that might be why they haven't been refreshed! =)

And honestly... i thought paying "full price" for "old tech" would bother me more than it does. Once you experience the speed and stability, any buyer's remorse fades away. What a nice tool for my studio.
 

philipma1957

macrumors 603
Apr 13, 2010
6,403
278
Howell, New Jersey
So i posted a while back that i would be patient, but a couple weeks ago my patience ran out. I've been wanting to get back to work on Pro Tools, and windows is just not an option when I need to be creative and/or productive with audio.

Best Buy had an i7 mini on sale for like $750 and I grabbed it.

I purchased a 240GB OWC SSD and an external usb drive enclosure for the 1TB OEM drive, and 16GB RAM.

This mini is KILLER. Just plain KILLER. Fast, easy and rock solid with Pro Tools 10.3.9, on OS X 10.8.5.




Learning OS X after over 20 years in the Windows world was cake. I am now productive on either platform.

If a new mini DOES come out, I'd consider it... but not right away. I'm 100% satisfied with this. If other people are having a similar experience with 2+ year old technology, that might be why they haven't been refreshed! =)

And honestly... i thought paying "full price" for "old tech" would bother me more than it does. Once you experience the speed and stability, any buyer's remorse fades away. What a nice tool for my studio.

If you are a sound guy the i7 2012 with a big ssd and 16gb ram shreds most work very nicely.

I built 3 of them for guys that do lots of mixing and recording.
The 2012 lacks video power driving a pair of 4k screens or editing complex video tasks it is slow.

1918 but whom is counting? Or is that who is counting?

A grammar expert please.
 

Kentuckienne

macrumors regular
Sep 19, 2013
159
8
No>me<where
I've been spending a good part of the day setting up this new old mini ... wait, it's more of an old new mini ... going as far as installing parallels and migrating the windows machine over as well as the old PPC stuff. I'm throwing everything into this, in the belief that as soon as it's done the new one will plop. Or slither, probably it won't be different enough to plop.

Speaking of ... if I do keep this, and I have all this stuff set up on the internal 1 TB drive, and I buy an SSD to stick in here to run apps with data on the big sucker ... is it possible to do that? I kept a 200 GB partition for OS and apps, can I just move that over to a new drive, or will I have to do something geeky?
 

Crosscreek

macrumors 68030
Nov 19, 2013
2,892
5,793
Margarittaville
I've been spending a good part of the day setting up this new old mini ... wait, it's more of an old new mini ... going as far as installing parallels and migrating the windows machine over as well as the old PPC stuff. I'm throwing everything into this, in the belief that as soon as it's done the new one will plop. Or slither, probably it won't be different enough to plop.

Speaking of ... if I do keep this, and I have all this stuff set up on the internal 1 TB drive, and I buy an SSD to stick in here to run apps with data on the big sucker ... is it possible to do that? I kept a 200 GB partition for OS and apps, can I just move that over to a new drive, or will I have to do something geeky?

If you have it partitioned you can use CarbonCopy To copy the partition on to the new drive.
 

scottsjack

macrumors 68000
Aug 25, 2010
1,906
311
Arizona
Unfortunately I am not young and I have no hope. And I don't even want a Mac Mini. I just find the resilience of this thread sort of mind-numbing and inexplicable. It's like watching a slow-motion head-on collision. You know there's going to be carnage but it's taking so long to happen. My personal feeling is that if, by this time, anyone still really believes that there will be a new Mini, they probably also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny. And that in another life, Steve Jobs would have been their best friend. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with that...it's all part of the Apple ethos...things are what you want them to be, not what they are...What will your verse be?

I have no reply to someone who speaks in circles.
 

LWX

macrumors member
Jun 27, 2010
61
0
London
I wanted a Mac Mini as I needed a desktop and having finally had the money together I could no longer wait, so went for a Mac Pro. Knowing my luck the Mac Mini will get a decent redesign and I'll be kicking myself eventually for not holding out :D
 

now i see it

macrumors G4
Jan 2, 2002
11,260
24,298
you all know.. that this thread is the most entertaining website (i think) on the internet. It beats ALL other websites in the whole wide world. The drama, the hope and despair. The anger, the joy, the disillusionment. The confusion and clarity. The acceptance of reality, and the gamble with uncertainty. This thread is a microcosm of our collective human consciousness and as a whole reveals more about the human spirit than any million dollar Hollywood movie or long drawn out book ever could.
Congratulations to us all, as we have unintentionally accomplished something far greater than what we could have possibly conceived…

Post on!
 

Santabean2000

macrumors 68000
Nov 20, 2007
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I just hope it doesn't drop until it has Broadwell I7 with TB2, HDMI2.0, with upgradeable RAM and HD.
Give me a fully capable 4k machine for the ultimate HTPC. :)

^This. But then, on closer inspection... what's the hurry? Really, how much quality 4K content is out there now? And, yes, I can buy 4k tvs now, but they are stupid expensive in this novelty stage.

The way I see it, the current mini handles FHD just fine. There is no real benefit to being on the front end of the UHD adoption curve; wait until the tech matures - in a couple of years [for htpc uses].

Until then just enjoy what you've got.
 
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