The Nintendo Switch Console Thread

[the8thark]

On the contrary. The Switch itself is for me (I've likely owned more Nintendo hardware - each on their respective launch dates, than most here) and as a Off TV handheld offers promise. I realise I use my Wii U 90% of the time off TV. So even if it was just in my house, the switch would at least allow me to play Mario.

That is you.
I own a WiiU but I never bought MK8 or Splatoon. So MK8D and Splatoon 2 do look interesting to me.
I go back tot he NES (my first game for it was Zelda 2 so yeah I've owned a lot of Nintendo hardware in the past.

But the issue remains .... It's the content that simply isn't there at the moment.

It is in the right way. Too much content juast leads to too much choice and some 3rd parties not getting the initial sales they need to stay developing for the platform.

Most of the titles on the list for this year are all old or very old ports. Indeed many of the titles have been on sale so long on other platforms that they are available cheap or have been given to users free as part of PSN/Live membership.

If you own a PS4/Xbox1 and a Wii U - there is very little in that first year release to justify the expense ... Especially when you can pick up the titles cheaper on your existing hardware.

There is more than you think. Also the portability factor is there. Do you want to play the games on the go? Many people do.

The issue of software for the Switch is a good one, it's not bad. The lineup is actually quite good, when compared to other console launches of recent and in history. Also learning to space out the 3rd party releases is a good thing too.
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I'm curious as to where you guys get your Nintendo news these days?

I mostly enjoy IGN's Nintendo podcast, GameXplain & CommonWealthRealm on on YouTube.

NintendoLife are one of the best (even if they hate Australia with a vengeance). Nintendo Everything is not all bad either.

 

[hawkeye_a]

IMHO..... from a business perspective...
-Third parties probably do not want to compete with a new Zelda
-Seeing as how it is a console launch, and Nintendo's reputation of supply issues, maybe third parties would prefer to wait?

The reason i really liked the Wii (and why it is probably my all time favorite *gaming* console) is that it fed my nostalgia, had some great new "core" titles, a wide variety of games, and some new unique stuff, all in one box. I clocked a lot more hours on my PS3 cause of the media center capabilities. But as far as games, i enjoyed the Wii the most.

Seeing as how conceptually the Switch is almost like a sum of all N's past consoles plus some quirky new stuff... AND PORTABLE, i'm actually really stoked for the thing. I'm only waiting to hear about VC and DLC policies before I commit to getting one at this stage.

Cheers
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It is in the right way. Too much content juast leads to too much choice and some 3rd parties not getting the initial sales they need to stay developing for the platform.

Third parties have to contend with a lot of that kind of stuff i reckon, never mind the non-existent market for a new console initially as well.

Quite frankly, IMHO, it's upto the console manufactures to have compelling content when a new console hits the shelves; specifically to create an installed base, which third parties can then decide to cater to.

 

[Taustin Powers]

Just now finally got around to watch the Mario Oddyssey presentation trailer. Overall it looks pretty awesome. But somehow it looks like a handful of completely different games?

 

[the8thark]

Quite frankly, IMHO, it's upto the console manufactures to have compelling content when a new console hits the shelves; specifically to create an installed base, which third parties can then decide to cater to.

Bingo. That's exactly it. The WiiU did not have that compelling new 1st party content. Ther Switch with Zelda BotW does.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

But is one game enough from the start? I wonder if the Wii U failed because it so severely lacked main IPs from Nintendo.. And that has to be a wakeup call for Nintendo - People don't buy the console for gimmicks, but only for the major first party games.

 

[the8thark]

But is one game enough from the start?

I would argue yes. One major game is better than many average ones that are not console sellers. (Just my opinion of cause)

 

[MRU]

I would argue yes. One major game is better than many average ones that are not console sellers. (Just my opinion of cause)

But yet you couldn't be bothered to buy Mario Kart 8 or Splatoon on Wii U ... 2 of the best titles Nintendo released on the system, both with critical acclaim, and yet you still did not buy.

But the whole world will jump on board for BOTW ? Quite a leap .....

 

[hawkeye_a]

I think it's fair to say none of us(or even N) have any idea how the Switch will pan out. All we can do is analyze previous launches.

I dont know about you guys, but I got the Wii for LoZTP and I picked up Excite Truck(which IMO is an underrated game), and of course Wii Sports filled out my launch haul.

I dont think it's the sheer number of titles, but rather the 'breath'/'diversity of the titles available at launch which matters. You want that core title, a racing game, a fighting game, maybe an FPS, and the casual game. That way you appeal to a whole lot of people. Right now, the Switch has 2.5 of the categories above (core: Zelda, casual:Arms, racing(a month or 2 later) : MK8d)

So it seems similar to the Wii launch to me. Having a new Zelda at launch is a great thing IMHO. Zelda and Sonic Mania will keep me busy till the holidays.

@Taustin Powers Yeah Mario Odyssey does feel like different tech demos and styles mashed together, which is why, so far, im not a fan.... and kinda concerned. (The cynic in me thinks it'll be another "Project Hammer")

 

[hawkeye_a]

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/2/2/14482712/nintendo-switch-vs-wii-u-gamepad

 

[MRU]

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(From Verge/GameXplain)

Link not working ...

 

[gkarris]

Just an FYI: Wii's at Gamestop have gone UP in price to $80 (for ones with a standard controller) and $100 (for ones with a Motion Plus, though they are on sale this week for $20 off).

Wow, I guess people still want Nintendo games and for many, a Wii is a second system to play them with. Especially the older Wii systems which will also play GameCube games.

A local Retro Movie/Music/Games store I frequent can't keep GameCube games or Nintendo WII IP games in stock...

 

[0098386]

Just an FYI: Wii's at Gamestop have gone UP in price to $80 (for ones with a standard controller) and $100 (for ones with a Motion Plus, though they are on sale this week for $20 off).

Wow, I guess people still want Nintendo games and for many, a Wii is a second system to play them with. Especially the older Wii systems which will also play GameCube games.

A local Retro Movie/Music/Games store I frequent can't keep GameCube games or Nintendo WII IP games in stock...

After the Wii U came out I bought a second Wii for the bedroom setup. There's something very nimble about it, and that it's easily hackable to add emulators and network streaming makes it mega useful. I can see why folk would want it these days.

 

[DeepIn2U]

But seriously ....

where is my Contra and Metroid titles?!!!!!

Grrrr at this rate I may just wait and or get the PS4

 

[the8thark]

After the Wii U came out I bought a second Wii for the bedroom setup. There's something very nimble about it, and that it's easily hackable to add emulators and network streaming makes it mega useful. I can see why folk would want it these days.

I think the very easily hackable aspect of it is why people want it. If the WiiU was just as hackable, people would be wanting that too (ibn the future when the price on it drops)

 

[MRU]

Gamestop rang me today to ask me to pre-order any accessories as they will only be getting stock of items that are pre-ordered such as pro-controllers etc... Sounds like supply of everything is going to be incredibly constrained which adds to the dilemma .... keep pre-order or not.

 

[Taustin Powers]

Gamestop rang me today to ask me to pre-order any accessories as they will only be getting stock of items that are pre-ordered such as pro-controllers etc... Sounds like supply of everything is going to be incredibly constrained which adds to the dilemma .... keep pre-order or not.

The only reason to buy a Switch at launch would be wanting to play Zelda. And you can get that for the Wii U, so really, the only reason would be desperately wanting to play Zelda outside of your home.

 

[MRU]

The only reason to buy a Switch at launch would be wanting to play Zelda. And you can get that for the Wii U, so really, the only reason would be desperately wanting to play Zelda outside of your home.

Which I don't particularly. Add the fact playing it on the switch itself will be 720p anyway - so similar to Wii U.

The deposit can be transferred, I am far more likely to just take this route for now.

 

[George Dawes]

Amazing what Nintendo can do with such crappy hardware

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Amazing what Nintendo can do with such crappy hardware

You have to ask if it is that crappy after all then.

 

[George Dawes]

Underpowered CPU , GPU and not enough Ram with a godawful crappy wannabee iPad screen

And that's just the Wii U

Love Nintendo games when the hardware really pushes them...

The Gamecube and Snes were the highlights for me , excellent hardware ( for their time ) and amazing games

as for the rest ... meh , reminds me of tim cook and his bean counting pals

 

[the8thark]

Gamestop rang me today to ask me to pre-order any accessories as they will only be getting stock of items that are pre-ordered such as pro-controllers etc... Sounds like supply of everything is going to be incredibly constrained which adds to the dilemma .... keep pre-order or not.

I don't disagree with you, but pre-orders are worth more to the gamestop employee COT program too. So there is that.

The only reason to buy a Switch at launch would be wanting to play Zelda. And you can get that for the Wii U, so really, the only reason would be desperately wanting to play Zelda outside of your home.

You forgot to addin the fact that BotW of WiiU will not be a silky 30 fps like it is on the Switch. Expect many frame rate drops and pop in on the WiiU.

Underpowered CPU , GPU and not enough Ram with a godawful crappy wannabee iPad screen

And that's just the Wii U

Love Nintendo games when the hardware really pushes them...

The Gamecube and Snes were the highlights for me , excellent hardware ( for their time ) and amazing games

as for the rest ... meh , reminds me of tim cook and his bean counting pals

The SNES and Gamecube were powerful consoles but not innovative at all. The Wii, WiiU and Switch are totally innovtive. The amount of tech inside the Switch is huge. For me the Switch is the first Nintendo piece of hardware I've been hyped about (I've been on the bandwagon since the NES days).
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Amazing what Nintendo can do with such crappy hardware

The Switch hardware is the polar opposite of crappy.

 

[itsOver9000]

You forgot to addin the fact that BotW of WiiU will not be a silky 30 fps like it is on the Switch. Expect many frame rate drops and pop in on the WiiU.

Everything I've read says BotW will be 30fps on both Wii U and Switch. Only 720p on Wii U whereas Switch will be 720p while mobile and 900p while docked to TV. Switch will also have better environmental sounds...

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

The SNES and Gamecube were powerful consoles but not innovative at all.

You heathen! The Gamecube had a carry handle!!

 

[the8thark]

You heathen! The Gamecube had a carry handle!!

My bad, that handle was innovative
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Everything I've read says BotW will be 30fps on both Wii U and Switch. Only 720p on Wii U whereas Switch will be 720p while mobile and 900p while docked to TV. Switch will also have better environmental sounds...

The last released playable WiiU version was not a smooth 30fps at all. But that was a in development build of the game. We have yet to see what the final build of the game will be like on the WiiU.

 

[frankgrimes]

I think the term triple A title has really lost it's shine. I used to think of excellent games, with tons of real content and almost bug free. Nowadays triple A means rip off thanks to awful stuff like DLC, RMT and wannabe content known as achievements to show of some virtual currency really? I should pay 50 bucks and more for something like this?

No way! I mean take Doom for Pc as an exemple wanted to buy the physical version but after I read that it only contains and installer to download 45 gb of the game I became very pissed of and decided against it. Don't get me even started on sport games they are mostly roster patched versions of last year for a full price ...another rip of. I mean Warner Bros even managed to destroy my favorite fighting game of all time, Mortal Kombat.

With Nintendo I know I will enjoy Zelda, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Smash Brothers (although I think MK8D was way too gimmicky compared to the N64 version.)

The quality of their titles is extremely high and I won't have to be online to enjoy them. I can invite 4 friends and play battle locally that's just awesome. What's great about the PS4Pro is that you can use it as a blue ray player and the small form factor of the Xbox is also nice but for me playing Zelda on the go can't be topped.