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The Nintendo Switch Console Thread
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Yes, I think having some tweaks to the dock would be a great idea. Honestly, my first thoughts after getting it were "Why didn't they put a Newton-style flip cover on the thing?" I'm sure some third party cover designs essentially mimic that, but something that would protect the screen while placing it in the dock would be ideal.
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I take this stuff with a grain of salt, everybody who has an issue will complain (noisily), which drowns out everybody who isn't having an issue (and isn't complaining).
Then again, if I just paid $$$ for something and it didn't work, I'd be pissed too. Like the time my first Powerbook (the 5300), when the hinge/screen bezel became loose after less than a week (a known issue, it was eventually fixed under warranty)...I'll spare you that story...
That's why I stated the screen protectors will have to suffice for now. Personally, I don't own the Switch and I have no experience with the dock to Provide feedback on this. Regardless, if Nintendo used higher quality display (Perhaps similar to Ion-X Glass,) then this would be a different discussion, even if it meant the consumer had to pay somewhat more, would be less of an inconvenience to have to purchase a separate screen protector in protecting their investment.
But then again, it's a first Gen product and there are always room for future improvements with the design of the dock to make the console better.
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I watched the video of the "Painful launch." Also quite a few issues across the board, and it seems like it's a lot of quality control issues with the joy cons and how cheaply made the dock is. With the display freezing and showing a scrambled screen would upset me the most some users are experiencing.
I will say there was one funny moment in the beginning of the video, where the guy reacts to the distorted display in the background and says "uhhhh..What is that, uhhhh....I don't feel well." That had me laughing pretty hard how he said it , even though it's probably not funny to him.
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If Nintendo would sell a barebone version, without dock and any of the other accessories, just the Switch itself and a charger, and price it at $199, I think it'll fly off the shelves and might have another Wii supplies situation. But that would kill 3DS sales unless Nintendo drops the price on it too.
I just ordered this 2pk glass protector from Amazon for $8.99, Prime shipping fulfilled by Amazon. The one thing that is flying off the shelves is screen protectors lol, especially ones shipped Prime.
https://smile.amazon.com/Nintendo-protector-GameWill-Transparent-Anti-Scratch-Premium/dp/B06WWPQ12H
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See my post above. First glass protector fulfilled by Amazon that I was able to get my hands on.Can people recommend a good screen protector for those of us who haven't received ours yet but are reading about all the scratches. Thanks in advance. Double thanks for quoting this so I get a notification.
Thought as much. This is what happens when you overegg the pudding technologically. In a portable form factor, space is at a premium. Unfortunately Nintendo found the desire to have 'advanced' rumble features and removable motion controllers to be more important than have those controllers actually able to communicate with the processing hardware. Idiocy.
Started a thread about using the Switch Controllers on a PC or Mac:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/using-switch-controllers-on-pcs-macs.2035952/
If anyone has used one please post your experience.
Thanks!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/using-switch-controllers-on-pcs-macs.2035952/
If anyone has used one please post your experience.
Thanks!
Lol some of these posts.
Well I have zero issues so far.
With joy cons, scratches, the dock.
The screen doesn't have to come into contact with the dock if you're being careful. Which you would be to ensure it lines up correctly.
I have a screen protector on mine and guess what? It hasn't melted on yet like others are claiming it does.
Seems to be selling well in Europe (particularly France) so far which is a great thing for Nintendo. Hopefully they can keep this going as the months roll on and more game get announced.
Well I have zero issues so far.
With joy cons, scratches, the dock.
The screen doesn't have to come into contact with the dock if you're being careful. Which you would be to ensure it lines up correctly.
I have a screen protector on mine and guess what? It hasn't melted on yet like others are claiming it does.
Seems to be selling well in Europe (particularly France) so far which is a great thing for Nintendo. Hopefully they can keep this going as the months roll on and more game get announced.
really debating getting one
tablet/phone gaming isn't the same as physical button/joystick gaming, and the portability aspect is whats most intriguing to me,
and this will have hot new Nintendo titles of course like Mario but not for a wihle
$300 seems reasonable too, and get going with Zelda,
hmmm
had wii but sold after playing Zelda, skipped wiiu, skipped portables since GBA,
had a PSP briefly but returned,
maybe I'm the perfect demographic for this,
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but its still no value compared to my ps4 pro $360 at launch (got a discount), with 4k graphics for my 65" but a home console not portable, and uncharted 1-4 and TLOU was transcendent. The rest has been icing on the cake
tablet/phone gaming isn't the same as physical button/joystick gaming, and the portability aspect is whats most intriguing to me,
and this will have hot new Nintendo titles of course like Mario but not for a wihle
$300 seems reasonable too, and get going with Zelda,
hmmm
had wii but sold after playing Zelda, skipped wiiu, skipped portables since GBA,
had a PSP briefly but returned,
maybe I'm the perfect demographic for this,
--
but its still no value compared to my ps4 pro $360 at launch (got a discount), with 4k graphics for my 65" but a home console not portable, and uncharted 1-4 and TLOU was transcendent. The rest has been icing on the cake
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If I was going to write a one-line review for the Switch, it would be "With the Switch, Nintendo is betting that 'good enough' graphics along with the advantages of also being a completely portable handheld will satisfy gamers...and by and large succeeds."
There is no doubt that the graphics aren't up to PS4 level. But, the hope is, the gameplay will be the real value, and draw. Before with the Wii & Wii U, there was little value in having yet another box under your TV, unless you wanted the Nintendo first party titles.
Now with the Switch, you can have all you wanted with a Nintendo, and play it while on the go. It is an interesting idea, and I guess we will see if it works.
rain or shine, in terms of success, I applaud the effort! tis a really cool concept
Lol some of these posts.
Well I have zero issues so far.
With joy cons, scratches, the dock.
The screen doesn't have to come into contact with the dock if you're being careful. Which you would be to ensure it lines up correctly.
I have a screen protector on mine and guess what? It hasn't melted on yet like others are claiming it does.
Seems to be selling well in Europe (particularly France) so far which is a great thing for Nintendo. Hopefully they can keep this going as the months roll on and more game get announced.
That's good your Switch is without issues. But Just because you're not experiencing these reported issues, doesn't devalue what others have experienced or mean the issues don't exist. It's not a secret the dock is cheaply made and could have been designed better to avoid some of The scratching issues (MRU gave a good example in Post #1210), which now, some are resorting to purchasing screen protectors because of the dock, which they necessarily shouldn't have too. If you look at the break down video of the dock, it's cheaply made.
Even when docking the Switch, one shouldn't have to think "I hope my Switch doesn't scratch." That shouldn't even cross the gamers mind if these issues weren't noted to begin with.
Post #1225 shows a video where the most minor issues could have been avoided, but were poorly designed by Nintendo.
I think the Switch is great and will do well. But for future versions, these issues could be easily addressed to make it a better experience.
Another design issue would be the joy-con wrist-strap things which slide on. Apparently one can put them on the wrong way. IMHO they should get rid of that thing altogether and make the joy-cons wider if they have to and modify the rails to make sure they can only slide on in one way so mistakes are not made (or if mistakes are made, make them easy to undo).
Regarding the dock. Functionally it's almost identical to my Apple USB-C AV adapter for my MBP.... lot less plastic. They can definitely streamline the product and have a dock similar to the Belkin one MRU linked earlier.
If they release a VC which is not tied to a subscription, and for example, a GCN controller to go with the GCN VC games.... i would totally buy it.
Regarding the dock. Functionally it's almost identical to my Apple USB-C AV adapter for my MBP.... lot less plastic. They can definitely streamline the product and have a dock similar to the Belkin one MRU linked earlier.
If they release a VC which is not tied to a subscription, and for example, a GCN controller to go with the GCN VC games.... i would totally buy it.
There are reports they removed the dock from being sold separately on the Nintendo site and it was put back up with a different part #.
Many are speculating a recall or a program which they had done in the past with a controller.
I am interested to see how this pans out.
Many are speculating a recall or a program which they had done in the past with a controller.
I am interested to see how this pans out.
To me, the biggest issue is the scratches and then the desync issues.
I just knew it when I saw the product and told so a long while ago! How could Nintendo not foresee this? It just blows my mind. It was pretty obvious. Maybe they just didn't care.
Even those who bought it never thought this could happen?
I just knew it when I saw the product and told so a long while ago! How could Nintendo not foresee this? It just blows my mind. It was pretty obvious. Maybe they just didn't care.
Even those who bought it never thought this could happen?
Agreed. How frustrating to have scratches caused by the product you paid for and then having to stare at them when using the Switch. I think Nintendo is going to take some serious heat for this, once more gamers receive their units. And then you have to factor a much younger demographic purchasing this, which in all likeliness, they won't be as careful as some of the forum members on here.
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That was one of my early points in discussion regarding the success of the Switch. Outside of their diehard base, and to a degree inside, Nintendo skews younger, under sixteen primarily. I posed the question: why should any parent pay US$360 for hardware that is clearly delicately made and unproven in terms of longevity and robustness when they can hand down tablets from previous years that have tens of thousands games, many of the free or far cheaper than Nintendo's games, that also have much better options for warranties and servicing, and have other services like web browsing and streaming beside.
If you're going after 'hardcore' gamers, the Switch is the butt of a joke, especially as a home console. If you're a casual, it has nothing on offer that makes it more attractive than other consumer electronics. So who, precisely, besides the Nintendo fanbase, is being targeted?
I see what you're saying and I believe your last question was rhetorical . But I'm not sure who Nintendo is specifically targeting. I think it's a wide demographic of all ages purchasing the switch. Mainly because the Switch has a bloodline over 25 years ago with Nintendo being in many homes with a current resurrection. I think you have adults and A juvenile crowd purchasing this product. But in any case, one who is ignorant about the scratches/current issues or doesn't read forums, they won't likely have any knowledge of the present issues being reported. It's unfortunate, but I think Nintendo could have easily made some better alterations to eliminate these predicaments.
And I watched a video of the teardown of the dock, and I was shockingly surprised how cheaply made it was. Literally, it's a plastic box with a small circuit board inside of it.
Nope. Nope, nope, nope. The Wii U show us precisely what that draw means to the gaming community, and it rhymes with 'truck mall'. That's precisely why I harp on the last generation so much: it is the closet data we have to a generation that functionally relied on Nintendo first-party IP as its system seller. How did it do? It was Nintendo's worst console generation in the company's entire history. You have to divorce yourself from nostalgia when evaluating this. Nostalgia will allow huge swaths of people to drop US$70 on a NES Classic; $500 on a Switch, Pro Controller and two games is a decidedly dicier proposition. If the current forecast for the launch weekend is accurate, and the Switch maintains momentum, you would be looking at around 1m in the first month. Strong for a Nintendo system, but less than half of the PS4 and about where the XB1 was. If that momentum tracks (without multiplats, I doubt this very seriously, there have been far fewer multisystem households this generation), you would be looking at around 25 - 30m maximum for it's lifespan. That's sounds very impressive next to the Wii U's 13.8m units sold, until you remember that the Switch is most likely the successor to the 3DS as well. So not only will have gone from 78m total hardware units sold (63.9m 3DS + 13.8m Wii U) to 30m, a loss of approximately 61%, you've adopted the decreased margins inherent to home consoles for your entire line of business.