The No Touch Bar 13 Macbook Version

[Hyloba]

If you're not sure then 8GB is probably okay. The SSD on these are quite fast, read speeds >2GB and write ~1.5GB, so paging will be that much quicker if it does happen. That said, if I were to keep the machine for more than a couple years I'd go to 16 on the RAM, but most won't need it.

Problem is, I have 4gb at the moment and it is way too little for my needs. Also, while I would love to keep the laptop for as many years as I can, I feel the next version will be significantly better.

Argh, I'm thinking and comparing too much, and I don't like to think this much about a perishable piece of technology.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Picked up the accessories for my new MBP at the local store, and got to play around with the same stock MBP that I am having delivered tomorrow. I was really impressed with the screen quality and build of the Mac. As to the keyboard, I didn't find it overly loud but it will take some getting used to. I will give a review of the MBP tomorrow evening, after I have had a chance to set it up and use it for a few hours.

 

[c0mm0n]

Well looks like I'm gonna cancel the 13TB 16/512 and reconsider this one.
Was scared about the battery life and reviews seem to confirm that.

Now it's MB12 2016 vs 13 non TB and even the Pro 13 2015 being considered...

 

[hj576]

So far the battery life on my non touch model seems quite good, I have been watching Youtube videos and surfing amazon for the past almost hour,
Battery percentage : 97%

The estimated time is fluctuating, i think it will take for it to settle down
As initially it showed me 11 hours, and went dow to 8 hours , while the battery percentage remained at 100%
at the moment it is showing 8:57

Over all, super impressed with my first day use

 

[Sheza]

Well looks like I'm gonna cancel the 13TB 16/512 and reconsider this one.
Was scared about the battery life and reviews seem to confirm that.

Now it's MB12 2016 vs 13 non TB and even the Pro 13 2015 being considered...

If you need 512GB of storage and 16GB of RAM I doubt the rMB (12 inch) is suited to you...

 

[Apple_Robert]

So far the battery life on my non touch model seems quite good, I have been watching Youtube videos and surfing amazon for the past almost hour,
Battery percentage : 97%

The estimated time is fluctuating, i think it will take for it to settle down
As initially it showed me 11 hours, and went dow to 8 hours , while the battery percentage remained at 100%
at the moment it is showing 8:57

Over all, super impressed with my first day use

Anytime you are using the computer on battery, the estimated battery time remaining count will continue to fluctuate.
Indexing lag as many here are used to with older machines is not an issue with the newer machines.

 

[Beau10]

Well looks like I'm gonna cancel the 13TB 16/512 and reconsider this one.
Was scared about the battery life and reviews seem to confirm that.

Now it's MB12 2016 vs 13 non TB and even the Pro 13 2015 being considered...

I have a 2014 13" rMBP, just tried the M5 12" rMB for a couple weeks. I really like the rMB, just not sure if it's comfy as an all-day machine for me. I was able to type fast on the keyboard but it wasn't as pleasant an experience, and the screen real estate could have been better (I do 1920x1200 on my 13", was doing 1650x1050 on the 12"), plus I think something just a little more substantial feeling is in order. When I returned the rMB I tried out the new base rMBP and really fell for it -- the tweak done to the feel of the v2 butterfly design really nails it IMO, and the screen is just a knockout.

 

[Abaganov]

Ok all of you none touch 13 inch macbook pro owners. after reading tons of reviews about the touch bar 13 version today, it seems like you all made a very smart decision

 

[WickedPorter]

Ok all of you none touch 13 inch macbook pro owners. after reading tons of reviews about the touch bar 13 version today, it seems like you all made a very smart decision

Especially with what I've read about the battery so far ...

 

[badlydrawnboy]

Check out the review on The Verge -- the author could only get 5:30-6 hrs with fairly basic use. It was so poor that Apple sent another laptop for further evaluation, but it was the same. Other reviews seem to be a bit better, but my impression from what I've seen is that the difference is more around 3hrs with normal use.

If this is true it's horrifically bad. Apple has been fairly conservative in their battery estimates in the past. Seems strange that they'd overestimate battery life by 4 hours?

 

[budfoot]

On my non-TB 13"

 

[hj576]

On my non-TB 13"

are you even using it ?
i unplugged around 3.5 hours ago
Installed VLC, Downloaded a movie, saw the movie, did some youtube video and surfing in between , i am on 65% with estimate of 6 hours more, I think thats quite impressive

 

[manny88]

On my non-TB 13"

Hey budfoot that's an awesome time. My highest estimates are around 8 hours on the non touch with i7, 16gb, and 512 gb.

Is it possible for you to download coconut battery and take a screenshot so I can compare?

Also could you take a screenshot of your energy tab in activity monitor so I can compare?

It would really help figure why I don't get battery life like yours.

 

[Lollo]

• I've had a few quick games of Football Manager 2017 which runs well, but the fans kick in as soon as the match engine starts and the laptop runs very hot to the touch underneath.

No issues running FM 2017... thats what i want to hear, i mostly use my MBP to play this life wrecking game.

How many leagues are u running? do the graphics look good?

Hopefully i'll have my new 15in 2.9ghz AMD 460 this week, so i can get back into my third season...

Football Manager has always run my MBP's hot

Hey pals... another FM-addicted here. It's a serious disease...!

As this nTB will be my first Mac and FM is the only game I seriously play, can you tell me if it gets hot also if you play with 2D during matches? I really hate 3D, so I don't really care about that.

 

[Wowereit]

If this is true it's horrifically bad. Apple has been fairly conservative in their battery estimates in the past. Seems strange that they'd overestimate battery life by 4 hours?

Maybe they've based the estimate on the non TB version.
Most people are reporting 10 to 11 hours of browsing, which is absolutely in line with Apple's realistic to slightly understated estimates which we've seen in the past.

Marketing might have gotten too much influence at Apple lately and decided "Nah, you can't advertise the new, premium model with 7 hours while the budget model comes with 10 hours"


Just think about this in general:
All 13" and 15" MBPs have an advertised runtime of 10 hours while sporting mostly different hardware. What's the chance that they all hit the same wonderful advertisement-friendly number of 10 hours without some tricks? That would've been a miracle.

 

[David58117]

Hey budfoot that's an awesome time. My highest estimates are around 8 hours on the non touch with i7, 16gb, and 512 gb.

Is it possible for you to download coconut battery and take a screenshot so I can compare?

Also could you take a screenshot of your energy tab in activity monitor so I can compare?

It would really help figure why I don't get battery life like yours.

Wouldn't the i7 model get less battery life than the i5?

Anyway - I notice the time remaining fluctuates a lot on mine, even the charge time is off. It will frequently say it will take 1:30 to charge maybe 20%, but it certainly doesn't take that long.

When it shows a low battery remaining time, can you close the lid for a few minutes, then open it and see if it's changed?

That usually changes the time remaining for me. It went from 7ish to about 11 just from doing that earlier today.

 

[budfoot]

are you even using it ?
i unplugged around 3.5 hours ago
Installed VLC, Downloaded a movie, saw the movie, did some youtube video and surfing in between , i am on 65% with estimate of 6 hours more, I think thats quite impressive

Hahah! Yes, I am. I've safari open with about 10 tabs, Mail connected to exchange, messages connected to iCloud and google chat, hipchat, and two iterm windows connected to AWS instances via SSH.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Hahah! Yes, I am. I've safari open with about 10 tabs, Mail connected to exchange, messages connected to iCloud and google chat, hipchat, and two iterm windows connected to AWS instances via SSH.


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How long have you had your new Mac? I see you have gone through 7 cycles already.

 

[budfoot]

How long have you had your new Mac? I see you have gone through 7 cycles already.

Almost two whole weeks. I leave it on my desk in clam mode hooked up to a monitor and charger most days. Am just working remote today.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Almost two whole weeks. I leave it on my desk in clam mode hooked up to a monitor and charger most days. Am just working remote today.

From what you have posted, it appears the base model is working out well for you. Congrats.

 

[Qwe9203]

Can someone please let us know if the 512GB or 1TB SSD is Sandisk or Samsung?????? It should say something like SMXXX model number on the System Report. Thanks.

 

[hj576]

Just an update, my Laptop has been on battery for 6:39 minutes (got this from activity monitor). I have watched a movie, installed 2 application, browsed the internet, watched youtube videos, while my email is connected. Did download a movie as well
Battery remaining - 37%
Estimated time remaining - 3:03

So close to 10 hours for moderate use, that is super impressive

 

[Apple_Robert]

Looks like my delivery is going to be back at the 16th, instead of tomorrow as estimated, unless UPS gets my Mac on a plane quickly and gets moving. Darn. The early delivery estimate got me psyched up.

 

[hj576]

Looks like my delivery is going to be back at the 16th, instead of tomorrow as estimated, unless UPS gets my Mac on a plane quickly and gets moving. Darn. The early delivery estimate got me psyched up.

well UPS said End of day delivery and then woke me up at 9 am so you never know
Yes i was sleepy, but soo happy, i wont lie i have been using the laptop since 9:30 ,,, and its 2:30 am now xD

 

[Apple_Robert]

well UPS said End of day delivery and then woke me up at 9 am so you never know
Yes i was sleepy, but soo happy, i wont lie i have been using the laptop since 9:30 ,,, and its 2:30 am now xD

You are on an Apple high. Fun times. I was the same way with my first Mac.