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G4fanboy

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Teleport house abyssoft is down.

Do someone plenty of space can reupload here or in the teleport post, please.

Posting with Classilla on Panther
 

G4fanboy

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I have been 4 days using Panther trying to download stuff from the usual places and it taught my attention than when I tried to access the Classillas's author gopher server to download Classilla, my new Panther install went to a Tiger drive app to open a Firefox v2 I had there, instead of opening Classilla or Safari. As KawaiiAurora said it can run up to Firefox 3.

But to be honest, latest Classilla is hard to work with.

I gave a try to youtube and it were astonishing. Youtube worked on both my MDD and my Sawtooth. With Classilla 9.3.3 with Javascript off in latest Panther with both Quicktime 6.5.2 and QT 7.5, with Nokia User agent and Opera 4 user agent, but the videos with Opera are even smaller. I messed up something "touching" too much and minutes later I couldn't reach m.youtube page with the QT6.5.2 machine. But the QT 7.5 machine still works for youtube if you keep "untouched" the user agent and the scriptbegone.
 

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air78

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Set PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin and DISPLAY=:0.0 in ~/.bashrc, otherwise X11 won't do much.

Aphrotic Hi!

Could you clarify about this optimizations? Could you describe in more detail the syntax of these commands in the terminal? Does the optimization follow the acceleration of graphics performance in a virtual machine?

Thanks in advance for your answers!
 

AphoticD

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Aphrotic Hi!

Could you clarify about this optimizations? Could you describe in more detail the syntax of these commands in the terminal? Does the optimization follow the acceleration of graphics performance in a virtual machine?

Thanks in advance for your answers!

Hi air78,

The shell environment variables were set to provide Panther with the correct path to the X11 binaries (via PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin) which appends the /usr/X11R6/bin path to the existing PATH variable. X11 is then set to use the first display/screen via (DISPLAY=:0.0).

This doesn’t accelerate the graphics in any way. Also, depending on your Panther and X11 installation, this step may not be necessary.

Here is a brief introduction for setting Shell environment variables:
http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/030.html

Hope that helps.
 
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air78

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Hi air78,

The shell environment variables were set to provide Panther with the correct path to the X11 binaries (via PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin) which appends the /usr/X11R6/bin path to the existing PATH variable. X11 is then set to use the first display/screen via (DISPLAY=:0.0).

This doesn’t accelerate the graphics in any way. Also, depending on your Panther and X11 installation, this step may not be necessary.

Here is a brief introduction for setting Shell environment variables:
http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/030.html

Hope that helps.

Thanks again. Next i will try this with OroborOSX, if it will work with this application.
 

G4fanboy

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Amethyst1

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Sorry for bringing up this old thread again, but I had a go at updating the first post to make it more consistent with the other OS X-specific threads.
 

air78

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Classilla works slowly on Panther, new Aphrotics browser still in alpha stage. Most optimized browser which works better and faster than classilla is - Firefox 2. But this annoying with verifying of web certificates.
 

z970

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I just thought about this, seeing as we have a lot of certificates issues here.

While on a journey to make my Nokia N8 usable in the modern world, I came across this website which offers updated certificates for download. After installing all the certificates available, I haven't seen a lot of difference on my phone, but perhaps a desktop situation would be a different story?

http://www.traud.de/ta/

As far as I can tell, it is secure, and there is no malicious activity in sight. But try it, see if it helps. I have a feeling it might.

I can't test them because I don't have a Panther machine, or any other older-than-Tiger machine ready at the moment, unfortunately.
 

z970

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Have you tried double clicking it? In Leopard, it leads to the Keychain Access app, asking me if I want to add it.
 

air78

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While on a journey to make my Nokia N8 usable in the modern world, I came across this website which offers updated certificates for download. After installing all the certificates available, I haven't seen a lot of difference on my phone, but perhaps a desktop situation would be a different story?

Thanks a lot, situation with the desktop a same story. Now Panther and even Jaguar a bit a more usable for modern tasks.
 
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air78

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So it works? You don't get as many certificate errors?

Yes, it was very encouraging. But there are some errors with the reproduction of advertising on the site, which does not interfere with the work.
 
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AphoticD

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I haven't tested these yet, but just curiously I went to download and got put off by all the individual files...

So, here's a quick(er) download method:

1. Save http://www.traud.de/ta/Series40.htm to a new folder (i.e "New Certificates" on your Desktop)
2. Use Terminal to 'cd' into the new folder ('cd /Users/me/Desktop/New\ Certificates')
3. Then at the prompt $ wget --force-html -i Series40.htm

You will now have 38 .cer files in the folder, downloaded and ready to install.

NOTE: wget can be installed via macports or homebrew / tigerbrew.
 
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z970

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For what it's worth, I'd recommend putting some attention towards the SHA2 page in http://www.traud.de/ta/sha2/ as well, because most websites today are using SHA2 in favor of SHA1, thus you will likely get better compatibility if using the SHA2 certificates.

Thank you Aphotic, for your continual innovations and contributions to the community. Much appreciated.
 
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AphoticD

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In that case, use the attached (zipped) html file to pull down all 65 certs using the same wget method.
 

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retta283

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From a designers perspective I will just say the following will run comfortably on Panther:

QuarkXPress 6.5.1
Acrobat 6 Pro
Adobe Illustrator 10
Adobe Photoshop 7
Adobe InDesign 2
Adobe Pagemaker 7
Suitcase X1
Office X/2004

Panther was the absolute most stable version of OS X I have yet encountered. Solid and dependable. It's only fault was that it was boring.
What systems did you run Panther on? I haven't had much experience with it so I don't know how it performs in comparison to other OS X versions.
 

eyoungren

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What systems did you run Panther on? I haven't had much experience with it so I don't know how it performs in comparison to other OS X versions.
From February 2005 to mid-2008 (I believe) I was running it on a 1.8Ghz PowerMac G5 with 4GB ram. It also got installed to two PowerMac G4s. These Macs are my work Macs and are still being used (although they were upgraded years ago).

Until 2009 it was running on my TiBook 400. Then I got Tiger.
 
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