The sentiment tide is clearly turning and I for one am glad

[samcraig]

Hater? Are you 16?

People can have different opinions. And your POSITIVE opinion isn't any more or any less valid than someone that is NEGATIVE about the device.

To the OP - perhaps those that think negatively about the device find conversations with people like yourself impossible to have and are taking the higher road by not posting so you can wet yourself at how awesome the iPad is going to be in your life.

That makes as much sense as your original post....

And it's not a question od "getting it" or not "getting it". The fact is - the iPad doesn't appeal to everyone. That's ok. It would be best to understand that some of your fellow posters have differing opinions. That doesn't make them haters. But your posts like this make YOU look immature.

 

[Compile 'em all]

All good points. I think the problem is as a group it is safe to say those of us who read this site are tech-fans. So of course folks were all focused on the specs of the unit first..

A tech fan that looks at the "specs first" has no clue what technology is. May be tech moron would be a more suitable term. How is that tech fan different from the avg. joe buying computer X because it is 1Mhz faster than computer Y?

The whole iPad MacRumors subforum has become the joke of the internet.

 

[vini-vidi-vici]

Reading the reviews

I've been scouring the net for reviews/impressions from people who've actually used the iPad. They've been nearly all positive, if not excited. All the negativity has been from armchair critics. One of the best I read was this one:
http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/2017907,ihnatko-ipad-hands-on-012810.article

I've also been reading the impressions of developers who have experience with the sdk, like this:
http://iphoneincubator.com/blog/general/ipad-first-impressions

I think that this is the kind of product that many people will have to actually try before making an informed decision. Just wait until there are some really cool optimized apps (and there will be), and you have that shiny smooth glass in your hands with a big beautiful screen that responds to your every movement and touch... and it's only $499+... and the battery lasts a long time... like it takes much work to justify jumping in.

 

[anthonymoody]

I saw the videos and the guys hands look horribly cramped trying to type on that thing.

AND NO thumb typing will not be possible on this thing.. unless you have GIGANTIC hands... you comparing a 4in long device to a 9 in long... thumb typing hardly




Fair enough, but just because you dont use it, doesnt make it a feature that is BETTER on a netbook/laptop/desktop




Fair enough, but see my above comment.




Oh your sadly mistaken... just to name TWO... look up Hp ION 311 and Alienware Mx11... there are also a couple of ASUS and Dells



Does it matter? You asked what you would need a desktop/laptop/netbook for... i just told you...




Again... you justifying something that is not there... you said something about cloud music service and doc service.. none of which have made it to the iphone...


Next.

[/QUOTE]

You're hilarious.
1) You neglected to mention the BT keyboard. Oops. That's a fairly functional keyboard since it is what's used on all macs right now. Again though, might want to wait and try one before determining that the onscreen keyboard won't allow proficiency.

2) Actually I never said that having Flash was not better than not having Flash. I said that I didn't need it.

3) Again, I don't need to rip CDs and DVDs any more. I didn't say it wasn't a nice thing to be able to do. Again though, even if you do need to do that...how often do you do it? Can you not perhaps envision an external drive attachment at some point for the iPad if DVDs persist in the universe (which they won't)?

4) Wow, you picked a brand new HP and an Alienware that is universally regarded as "not really a netbook based on its specs" not to mention its pricepoint. But that's the point: these are exceptions that prove the rule.

In general, I am not justifying anything - I am simply explaining how for me the device is not lacking or wanting. Far from it. So much so that I will be using an iPad as my primary computer.

Tell you what - let's revisit a year from now and see where things are, shall we?

 

[msduncan]

I'm not sure I fit this description, but I loved the iPad from the moment I saw it. I had a feeling on what it would be like, and the announcement totally lined up with that.

I'm getting rid of my current 1000HE netbook which literally limps along with nothing more than average quality video playback. I have never once even fired my camera up on the thing, so I know I won't miss that. I just have to be amazed that people are actually bothering to list the ipad's NAME as a reason not to get it. I mean really?

It's fast. It's simple. It was made for video, pictures, music. I can surf the internet with it. I can read books and hopefully magazines and comics with it. This is exactly what I wanted it for.

I had a brief identity crises when the Alienware netbook was announced, but then I was reminded that I have a cutting edge desktop machine for gaming.... I don't need a souped up netbook to game on.

So there you have it... I'm anxious to put my order in. I still can't find anyone that can tell me when I'll be able to do that.

 

[anthonymoody]

Hater? Are you 16?

People can have different opinions. And your POSITIVE opinion isn't any more or any less valid than someone that is NEGATIVE about the device.

To the OP - perhaps those that think negatively about the device find conversations with people like yourself impossible to have and are taking the higher road by not posting so you can wet yourself at how awesome the iPad is going to be in your life.

That makes as much sense as your original post....

And it's not a question od "getting it" or not "getting it". The fact is - the iPad doesn't appeal to everyone. That's ok. It would be best to understand that some of your fellow posters have differing opinions. That doesn't make them haters. But your posts like this make YOU look immature.

Hey pot - it's the kettle calling. He says you're black. Wetting myself? Talk about immature 16 year olds. Yeesh.

 

[wolfpackfan]

OP - I really have no idea why you started this thread. You had to know it would bring the bashers out of the woodwork. What does it achieve?

 

[lordhamster]

I'm getting rid of my current 1000HE netbook which literally limps along with nothing more than average quality video playback.

Hey not to get off subject, but I just wanted to let you know about CoreAV. Look it up on google. Its a Codec pack that you can download for $9. Best $9 I ever spent on my Asus EEE 1000HE. After I installed it I could finally watch my 720p MKV for Sarah Connor Chronicles without the damn thing skipping all the time.

Until you get your iPad that little download will keep you from wanting to chuck the Asus out the window.

 

[anthonymoody]

I've been scouring the net for reviews/impressions from people who've actually used the iPad. They've been nearly all positive, if not excited. All the negativity has been from armchair critics. One of the best I read was this one:
http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/2017907,ihnatko-ipad-hands-on-012810.article

I've also been reading the impressions of developers who have experience with the sdk, like this:
http://iphoneincubator.com/blog/general/ipad-first-impressions

I think that this is the kind of product that many people will have to actually try before making an informed decision. Just wait until there are some really cool optimized apps (and there will be), and you have that shiny smooth glass in your hands with a big beautiful screen that responds to your every movement and touch... and it's only $499+... and the battery lasts a long time... like it takes much work to justify jumping in.

Hey thanks for the Sun Times write up in particular - I hadn't seen that. Extremely detailed and full of useful info given the limited amount of time the writer had with the iPad.

OP - I really have no idea why you started this thread. You had to know it would bring the bashers out of the woodwork. What does it achieve?

Yeah this is a valid point. I suppose it means I should've had less regard for my fellow community members and simply assumed the worst.

 

[wodeh]

I'm weirded out by this whole, sudden surge of netbook love. They really are just crappy, underpowered laptops that aren't really that portable in the grand scheme of things.

All I've done with mine is install OSX, install Ubuntu, install OSX again, break my MBR, reformat, install Ubuntu... now I've got to install Windows XP before I sell it in favour of an iPad.

The one thing I ever found the Netbook useful for, apart from the odd bit of programming I did upon it to justify its purchase, was to run SlingPlayer to keep my daughter entertained whilst I tied up the TV with gaming. The iPad can do that, too.

I also ran World of Warcraft on it, poorly, for a while. As much as I love netbooks as a silly curiosity the iPad will get used a whole lot more... maybe even by me if I can wrench it from my partners hands.

 

[dgree03]

If you need a bluetooth keyboard, doesnt that defeat the purpose of this tablet?

haha there are WAY MORE than just the ones I listed in fact... every HP netbook has 720p screen and most of ASUS do also... nice try tho

 

[miles01110]

Yeah this is a valid point. I suppose it means I should've had less regard for my fellow community members and simply assumed the worst.

Not even taking into account the obvious troll thread, but it's really just a matter of opinion. To say the "tide is turning" really only means you've been reading more blog posts/articles/forum threads with a similar appraisal of the iPad to your own. It's great that Apple has provided you and the other fanatics with yet another excuse to give them money, but to think other people care is fairly arrogant.

 

[lordhamster]

I'm weirded out by this whole, sudden surge of netbook love. They really are just crappy, underpowered laptops that aren't really that portable in the grand scheme of things.

I bought my netbook (which I plan to replace with an iPad) and love it because it is small and weighs much less than my Macbook. I travel extensively internationally. I believe in onebag travel (http://www.onebag.com). Bags with rollers are for girls. Therefore, I needed a light, cheap machine to take with me on international business trips so that I could.
1. Check and respond to email more comfortably than on my iPhone.
2. Comfortably read and browse the web.
3. Take advantage of the 9.5 hour battery life the "weak" processor makes possible.

All in as light and small a footprint as possible while being more comfortable than a smartphone.

The Asus EEE has worked fine for that, but really isn't ideal.

 

[teiresias]

I'm so glad you no longer have to suffer under the traumatic emotional experience of having people criticize an Apple product. I know that's a terrible thing to have to endure, to have someone not like something Apple makes or be able to make arguments about how there might be more applicable hardware out there for certain situations. It sort of ruins your whole day, and honestly, prolonged exposure to such obviously mentally deficient people - I rank them with people who use Windows and those that operate under the delusion that they can read better on an e-ink screen (honestly, how the hell would they know what they're comfortable doing, don't they listen to Steve?) - can probably lead to the need for prolonged therapy.

It's good we're finally getting past that initial hump and those that feel that they don't have any need for an iPad are realizing they're actually lesser human beings since they think something else might fit their needs better. It's obvious they need to change their computing behavior to better match Apple's vision.

 

[anthonymoody]

If you need a bluetooth keyboard, doesnt that defeat the purpose of this tablet?

haha there are WAY MORE than just the ones I listed in fact... every HP netbook has 720p screen and most of ASUS do also... nice try tho

No, you don't "need" a bluetooth keyboard. I simply point out that there IS a solution to the imagined problem you cite.

As for netbook screens, you're talking about the very newest and latest models, which probably represent <1% of the installed base of netbooks. Don't forget too that pre-Ion (again, 99% of the installed base) cannot play even 720p without stutter (on a <720p screen!) to say nothing of 1080p.

Not even taking into account the obvious troll thread, but it's really just a matter of opinion. To say the "tide is turning" really only means you've been reading more blog posts/articles/forum threads with a similar appraisal of the iPad to your own. It's great that Apple has provided you and the other fanatics with yet another excuse to give them money, but to think other people care is fairly arrogant.

Incorrect. What is arrogant is assuming that because a product does not meet your particular needs or expectations that it is an abject failure. Read enough of the negative posts and you see quite clearly that that's where the negativity comes from.

 

[msduncan]

Hey not to get off subject, but I just wanted to let you know about CoreAV. Look it up on google. Its a Codec pack that you can download for $9. Best $9 I ever spent on my Asus EEE 1000HE. After I installed it I could finally watch my 720p MKV for Sarah Connor Chronicles without the damn thing skipping all the time.

Until you get your iPad that little download will keep you from wanting to chuck the Asus out the window.

Oh wow! Thanks! I'll download this when I get home.

 

[Compile 'em all]

I'm weirded out by this whole, sudden surge of netbook love. They really are just crappy, underpowered laptops .

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbut they have soooooooooo many moar ports!! IT MEANZ THEY ARE BETTAR!

/s

 

[anthonymoody]

I'm so glad you no longer have to suffer under the traumatic emotional experience of having people criticize an Apple product. I know that's a terrible thing to have to endure, to have someone not like something Apple makes or be able to make arguments about how there might be more applicable hardware out there for certain situations. It sort of ruins your whole day, and honestly, prolonged exposure to such obviously mentally deficient people - I rank them with people who use Windows and those that operate under the delusion that they can read better on an e-ink screen (honestly, how the hell would they know what they're comfortable doing, don't they listen to Steve?) - can probably lead to the need for prolonged therapy.

It's good we're finally getting past that initial hump and those that feel that they don't have any need for an iPad are realizing they're actually lesser human beings since they think something else might fit their needs better. It's obvious they need to change their computing behavior to better match Apple's vision.

Feel better now?

 

[jalpert]

Who said it was instant on? My iPhone certainly isn't. Just curious...

All good points. I think the problem is as a group it is safe to say those of us who read this site are tech-fans. So of course folks were all focused on the specs of the unit first. However what the iPad provides is really a blank slate (pun intended) upon which to build.

I'm an IT consultant and while I was at first a bit disappointed, the more I thought about it the more I came to realize that the iPad will fit my mobile needs perfectly.

1. It is light
2. Instant on
3. Will have tons of Apps I'm sure.
4. Anything I don't have on the iPad I can access via VNC or CITRIX.
5. This will definitely beat lugging around a netbook.

In situations where I need to do serious (sit at desk all day) work, I still will use my Macbook.

 

[lordhamster]

I understand that people who were disappointed or feel they don't need the iPad were very vocal for the first few days. What I don't understand is what motivates someone who claims the iPad is useless junk, to delve into page after page of posts so that they may reiterate their opposition.

Why is there so much interest in this product from those who claim to be uninterested? Are you folks trying to save our poor lost souls or something?

 

[anthonymoody]

I bought my netbook (which I plan to replace with an iPad) and love it because it is small and weighs much less than my Macbook. I travel extensively internationally. I believe in onebag travel (http://www.onebag.com). Bags with rollers are for girls. Therefore, I needed a light, cheap machine to take with me on international business trips so that I could.
1. Check and respond to email more comfortably than on my iPhone.
2. Comfortably read and browse the web.
3. Take advantage of the 9.5 hour battery life the "weak" processor makes possible.

All in as light and small a footprint as possible while being more comfortable than a smartphone.

The Asus EEE has worked fine for that, but really isn't ideal.

Ironically it is my direct experience with a netbook that has shown me so clearly that an iPad will more than suffice for me to use it as my primary machine.

I hacked my Dell Mini9 with OSX and really did it up: 64GB Runcore SSD, 2GB Ram, kept BT and the 1.3MP webcam in tact, etc. Loaded open office, set up mobileme, and set off to use it pretty much exactly as you did.

And GAWD I hate the thing. But I LOVE to travel with it over my MBP because it weighs 2.2 pounds. Switch to something better (for my needs) that weighs even less??? A no brainer.

 

[jontucker]

I'm so glad you no longer have to suffer under the traumatic emotional experience of having people criticize an Apple product. I know that's a terrible thing to have to endure, to have someone not like something Apple makes or be able to make arguments about how there might be more applicable hardware out there for certain situations. It sort of ruins your whole day, and honestly, prolonged exposure to such obviously mentally deficient people - I rank them with people who use Windows and those that operate under the delusion that they can read better on an e-ink screen (honestly, how the hell would they know what they're comfortable doing, don't they listen to Steve?) - can probably lead to the need for prolonged therapy.

It's good we're finally getting past that initial hump and those that feel that they don't have any need for an iPad are realizing they're actually lesser human beings since they think something else might fit their needs better. It's obvious they need to change their computing behavior to better match Apple's vision.

With respect, there are 10 times as many "iPad = fail because it doesn't meet my needs" comments than "People who don't want an iPad are losers".

 

[anthonymoody]

Who said it was instant on? My iPhone certainly isn't. Just curious...

Your iPhone isn't instant on? Better return it quick

If you mean on from full Off or reboot, sure. But . . . you turn it to full off???

I haven't done that with either of my iPhones a single time ever ever ever. Airplane mode at the very worst

 

[samcraig]

Feel better now?

Thanks for proving your lack of maturity to have an actual conversation. Someone disagrees with you and you write something like that in response?

Talk about arrogance - Hello Pot....

Maybe you should post your feelings on your Blog where you can control what is said and not said. That environment seems better suited to your personality as indicated by this thread

ETA: Oh - I see you did post this on your blog. I guess since the # of people interested in your blog isn't enough to satisfy your ego, you wanted to post it here. Fair enough. But, to paraphrase your original post. Why such a hater? Why are you so against people NOT wanting an iPad and giving logical reasons? Why are you going post by post to counter every reason someone throws out why THEY don't want one.

We get it - you love the iPad. As I have said before - you're entitled to your love. And those who are less in love, or not in love at all are entitled to their feelings as well. The sooner you accept that, the happier and healthier you will be knowing you can't control how others think, act or feel. Enjoy your iPad when you eventually get it - that's all that's REALLY important. Not what your "neighbor" thinks.

 

[lordhamster]

Your iPhone isn't instant on? Better return it quick

If you mean on from full Off or reboot, sure. But . . . you turn it to full off???

I haven't done that with either of my iPhones a single time ever ever ever. Airplane mode at the very worst

Me neither. Never ever ever turned mine off since I bought it. It may have been re-booted once or twice for firmware updates, but thats it.

Airplane instructions be damned, I turned it to airplane mode and thats as off as it gets.