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anthonymoody

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Thanks for proving your lack of maturity to have an actual conversation. Someone disagrees with you and you write something like that in response?

Talk about arrogance - Hello Pot....

Maybe you should post your feelings on your Blog where you can control what is said and not said. That environment seems better suited to your personality as indicated by this thread


Sorry, point out to me where there was a conversation to be had in that post? It was a rant from start to finish. A sarcastic and bombastic one to be sure, but a rant nonetheless. Perhaps you're not familiar with typical web dialog protocol, but generally speaking rants neither seek nor deserve a response.
 

samcraig

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Sorry, point out to me where there was a conversation to be had in that post? It was a rant from start to finish. A sarcastic and bombastic one to be sure, but a rant nonetheless. Perhaps you're not familiar with typical web dialog protocol, but generally speaking rants neither seek nor deserve a response.

Sorry - but aren't your posts rants too? He was snarky and was using sarcasm to illustrate that he finds your rant/OP silly.

So I guess none of your posts "deserve" responses either.
 

jalpert

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Well my macbook is instant on from sleep as well. His argument was that the iPad was instant on, aren't all netbooks and laptops from sleep? The longest I've ever waited for a windows laptop has been 5 seconds.... I guess I misunderstood.

Your iPhone isn't instant on? Better return it quick :)

If you mean on from full Off or reboot, sure. But . . . you turn it to full off???

I haven't done that with either of my iPhones a single time ever ever ever. Airplane mode at the very worst :)
 

lordhamster

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Well my macbook is instant on from sleep as well. His argument was that the iPad was instant on, aren't all netbooks and laptops from sleep? The longest I've ever waited for a windows laptop has been 5 seconds.... I guess I misunderstood.

Surely you know what I mean when I say the iPhone/iPad "wakes up" faster and more efficiently than a PC.

Sure my netbook and my macbook turn on fairly fast from a sleep state, however at a fairly steep cost to the "standby" time. The whole time your PC is "sleeping" it eats battery at a much faster clip than say an iPod Touch or an iPad while in standby.

In fact the wife and I get into arguments about this all the time. When she grabs the netbook to look something up, then doesn't properly shut down the machine. The next day I get to have a netbook with only 50% charge because it went to "sleep" instead of shutting down.
 

anthonymoody

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Sorry - but aren't your posts rants too? He was snarky and was using sarcasm to illustrate that he finds your rant/OP silly.

So I guess none of your posts "deserve" responses either.


No my OP is not a rant at all. I welcome responses pro and con so long as they're well reasoned. A little courtesy doesn't hurt either, nor is it too much to ask.
 

G4R2

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Many of the naysayers have pretty good reasons. For many the iPad is just a waste of space and hype. Have fun using your iPad as a primary computer.

It's abundantly clear that an iPad isn't meant to be used as a primary computer.

This would be the case even if the device had a touch enabled variation of desktop OS X. It was obvious, even before this device was released, that the tablet form factor is not well suited for text intensive applications.

Additionally, as has been demonstrated by Microsoft's own two decade long failed experiment in attempting to translate its desktop OS to a tablet form factor, placing OS X on the tablet would only have compromised the desktop OS with needless features and bloat that would not have been a satisfying experience.

The truth is that a large portion of laptop users don't require all the features that laptops possess. The laptop form factor also isn't ideal for a significant number of mobile applications. By and large they aren't instant on, don't have rapidly launching applications, require a surface in order to type or use the trackpad effectively, and can be unwieldy.

Apple has recognized this, as have a great number of commentators on this board and elsewhere. Additionally, there have been a growing number of iPhone/Touch users who have been using their devices as mobile computers and have been leaving their laptops behind. The applications for this have been not only in delivery of content but in actual work. The iPad clearly expands upon these applications while leveraging Apple's software and hardware expertise.
 

roland.g

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I agree that the iPad is going to be great and I am really excited about it myself. However, that said, I can see it as a primary machine, but not the only machine. Regardless of cloud storage etc., I think you will still need a main computer - albiet secondary - but still a desktop or laptop of some sort for some syncing (unless you want to wait that long for media to wirelessly sync over your internet connection) but more importantly for things like OS upgrades, and eventually iPad upgrades. When you get another iPad at some point you will want to back up the old one and sync the new one. I don't think Apple will make this possible through cloud computing, even using 3rd party apps. Files may transfer but playlists and other iTunes specific data would not.

I currently have an iMac and an aluminum MacBook. I no longer really see the need for the MacBook. The only thing I use the MacBook for that I couldn't use the iPad for is video chatting outside of my home office. And no this isn't a call to get a webcam in the iPad. But almost every weekend my wife and I webcam with my mom, my dad, or her parents so they can see our boys and talk to them. A lot of times this is on Saturday or Sunday morning at the breakfast table and it is really easy to put the MacBook on the table and turn it to face various family members. We have much better success when they are in high chairs than trying to get them to sit still in the office for two minutes.

But if you do any really film editing which can be storage intensive, etc., and maybe you have machines at work for it and don't use your iMac in that capacity, then you really need a desktop for that software. And touch version editing software will be much lighter.

The other reason I won't give up my iMac is that we have 2 Apple TVs connected to our network and the iMac and iTunes stay running so that we can stream any movies from the iMac to our Apple TVs for ourselves or the kids, or listen to music, etc. I know some people have ATV flash running with connected drives or NAS structures that somehow mitigate access issues however I think for the most part I still think the iTunes conduit is the best way to go.

I have no problem being a consumer within the Apple ecosystem. I don't personally need to jailbreak anything or ATV flash anything to get more use out of it. If I have a video format that doesn't play on the Apple TV, I convert it and drop it in iTunes. But all that conversion and you have mentioned still doing some of that stuff, maybe not from DVD, but with files or what not needs to take place on a computer and not an iPad.

I too have long converted all my CDs and most of MY DVDs with some still left to do once I go Drobo and expand my storage, and now I buy almost all my music and movies and TV shows from iTunes, but I don't see having just an iPad as a reality in the next 2 years. Beyond that, who knows.
 

samcraig

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It's a rant - it's a rant against the "naysayers" and raising yourself above them all. But that's ok. You're a little conflicted I see based on your entries here and your blog. Maybe you can enlighten us regarding yours posts vs. your blog entry?

I don't understand how you're going to be iPad "only" but still have/need your iMac. Aren't you stating in this thread over and over to those that "oppose" your viewpoint that there's no need for anything but the iPad and cloud computing? And do you or don't you still need to rip CD's and DVDs?

You realized that CDs and DVDs aren't going anywhere for a long long long long long time, right? You also must know, being as technically minded as you are that when the average Joe thinks they're getting Hi-Def video, they are in fact - not? Just because the screen size is 720 or 1080 doesn't mean the bitrate is. Itunes does NOT offer true hi-def. And until internet speeds are MUCH MUCH higher - they can't. That's why a movie download isn't 20 gigs like blu-ray. So for now - physical media isn't going anywhere. But I digress....

Onto your conflicting views...

AnthonyMoody: Again, I don't need to rip CDs and DVDs any more.

AnthonyMoody: What else do I need a desktop, laptop, or netbook for??? I'm waiting.

From AnthonyMoody's blog: (Bold are my "enhancements")

I have drunk gallons of Kool-Aid. *I am a believer. *I’ve watched the keynote and promo videos. *More than once. *I’ve read the pundits, both pro and con, entering into thoughtful debate where appropriate. *And I am prepared to ditch my MBP and embrace the iPad fully and without reservation as my primary computer. *Yes I have to keep my household iMac for the few things the iPad is physically incapable of (ripping media primarily, and acting as a central repository for storing and syncing).
 

lordhamster

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IItunes does NOT offer true hi-def. And until internet speeds are MUCH MUCH higher - they can't. That's why a movie download isn't 20 gigs like blu-ray. So for now - physical media isn't going anywhere


Because I can't possibly enjoy a movie on my 9.7" screen unless its got 20Gigs worth of Blu-ray megapixel goodness. yeeeeehaw!
 

samcraig

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Because I can't possibly enjoy a movie on my 9.7" screen unless its got 20Gigs worth of Blu-ray megapixel goodness. yeeeeehaw!

Missed the point entirely. My point was that hard media isn't going anywhere. People have invested in HD TVs and until bandwidth opens up - the only way to get true HD on those large TV's is via Blu-Ray. Period.

On anything smaller than 20 inches - non-(true)HD is more than fine.
 

lordhamster

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Missed the point entirely. My point was that hard media isn't going anywhere. People have invested in HD TVs and until bandwidth opens up - the only way to get true HD on those large TV's is via Blu-Ray. Period.

On anything smaller than 20 inches - non-(true)HD is more than fine.

Ah ok, my bad.
 

mac jones

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I imagine those that wanted a full blown Mac are unhappy.

But a Tablet Mac would be very expensive and not very profitable. IMHO.

This fatso iPod might actually sell. :D
 

dave1812dave

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Hater? Are you 16?

People can have different opinions. And your POSITIVE opinion isn't any more or any less valid than someone that is NEGATIVE about the device.

To the OP - perhaps those that think negatively about the device find conversations with people like yourself impossible to have and are taking the higher road by not posting so you can wet yourself at how awesome the iPad is going to be in your life.

That makes as much sense as your original post....

And it's not a question od "getting it" or not "getting it". The fact is - the iPad doesn't appeal to everyone. That's ok. It would be best to understand that some of your fellow posters have differing opinions. That doesn't make them haters. But your posts like this make YOU look immature.

I received a 48 hour suspension of my posting privileges, which ended yesteday at 4PM. I presume it was because MacRumors is "pro Apple" and I posted a lot of negative opinion about the iPad. I guess, as always, there really is no such thing as "free speech" on any forum. sigh. (I was suspended without notice or private message--no warning and no explanation).
 

anthonymoody

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It's a rant - it's a rant against the "naysayers" and raising yourself above them all. But that's ok. You're a little conflicted I see based on your entries here and your blog. Maybe you can enlighten us regarding yours posts vs. your blog entry?

I don't understand how you're going to be iPad "only" but still have/need your iMac. Aren't you stating in this thread over and over to those that "oppose" your viewpoint that there's no need for anything but the iPad and cloud computing? And do you or don't you still need to rip CD's and DVDs?

You realized that CDs and DVDs aren't going anywhere for a long long long long long time, right? You also must know, being as technically minded as you are that when the average Joe thinks they're getting Hi-Def video, they are in fact - not? Just because the screen size is 720 or 1080 doesn't mean the bitrate is. Itunes does NOT offer true hi-def. And until internet speeds are MUCH MUCH higher - they can't. That's why a movie download isn't 20 gigs like blu-ray. So for now - physical media isn't going anywhere. But I digress....

Onto your conflicting views...

AnthonyMoody: Again, I don't need to rip CDs and DVDs any more.

AnthonyMoody: What else do I need a desktop, laptop, or netbook for??? I'm waiting.

From AnthonyMoody's blog: (Bold are my "enhancements")

I have drunk gallons of Kool-Aid. *I am a believer. *I’ve watched the keynote and promo videos. *More than once. *I’ve read the pundits, both pro and con, entering into thoughtful debate where appropriate. *And I am prepared to ditch my MBP and embrace the iPad fully and without reservation as my primary computer. *Yes I have to keep my household iMac for the few things the iPad is physically incapable of (ripping media primarily, and acting as a central repository for storing and syncing).


Re-read your post. Other than arguing that my OP is a rant (which it's not) you're not arguing any point. You're somehow trying to state that I'm contradicting myself or am conflicted when nothing could be further from the truth.

I am 100% honest about communicating my needs, and equally aware of what those needs are. I am entirely open about my POV - why are you attempting to imply that I"m trying to hide something? Bizarre. Nothing I've said is contradictory. I am 100% sure - as of the date of the keynote and the info therein - of what the iPad can do now and what it cannot.

I am therefore sure that the iPad can serve - on Day 1 - as my primary computer. As I have openly pointed out here and elsewhere, I will continue to employ my iMac for two reasons: ripping and storing/syncing. Ripping has almost entirely disappeared as a need for me, and storing/syncing is a need that I firmly believe will disappear over time as much larger SS memory modules become available for future iterations of the iPad, and/or cloud storage/streaming become prevalent.

Oh, if you think CDs are going to be here a long time, you're delusional. CD unit sales dropped from 511 million to 384 million from 2007 - 2008 alone, a 25% drop. (Source:http://76.74.24.142/D5664E44-B9F7-69E0-5ABD-B605F2EB6EF2.pdf) Those rates have been more or less consistent for each of the last few years. It doesn't take a math genius to see that CDs are disappearing, and at a rate way faster than digital downloads are making up for the lost revenues (just ask the labels).

As for DVDs and Blu-Ray, have you seen an HDX encoded film on Vudu? It might surprise you. Of course it's not ubiquitous yet but to not see where this is all headed is to stick your head in the sand.

And oh, by the way, when pointing out that most people who think they're watching HD video are not, you do realize that you're arguing my point, not yours right?

Anyway, what I enjoy is discussing the possibilities - those things I believe likely to happen, those prospects which excite me, etc. It's not clear to me what you're doing.

I agree that the iPad is going to be great and I am really excited about it myself. However, that said, I can see it as a primary machine, but not the only machine. Regardless of cloud storage etc., I think you will still need a main computer - albiet secondary - but still a desktop or laptop of some sort for some syncing (unless you want to wait that long for media to wirelessly sync over your internet connection) but more importantly for things like OS upgrades, and eventually iPad upgrades. When you get another iPad at some point you will want to back up the old one and sync the new one. I don't think Apple will make this possible through cloud computing, even using 3rd party apps. Files may transfer but playlists and other iTunes specific data would not.

I currently have an iMac and an aluminum MacBook. I no longer really see the need for the MacBook. The only thing I use the MacBook for that I couldn't use the iPad for is video chatting outside of my home office. And no this isn't a call to get a webcam in the iPad. But almost every weekend my wife and I webcam with my mom, my dad, or her parents so they can see our boys and talk to them. A lot of times this is on Saturday or Sunday morning at the breakfast table and it is really easy to put the MacBook on the table and turn it to face various family members. We have much better success when they are in high chairs than trying to get them to sit still in the office for two minutes.

But if you do any really film editing which can be storage intensive, etc., and maybe you have machines at work for it and don't use your iMac in that capacity, then you really need a desktop for that software. And touch version editing software will be much lighter.

The other reason I won't give up my iMac is that we have 2 Apple TVs connected to our network and the iMac and iTunes stay running so that we can stream any movies from the iMac to our Apple TVs for ourselves or the kids, or listen to music, etc. I know some people have ATV flash running with connected drives or NAS structures that somehow mitigate access issues however I think for the most part I still think the iTunes conduit is the best way to go.

I have no problem being a consumer within the Apple ecosystem. I don't personally need to jailbreak anything or ATV flash anything to get more use out of it. If I have a video format that doesn't play on the Apple TV, I convert it and drop it in iTunes. But all that conversion and you have mentioned still doing some of that stuff, maybe not from DVD, but with files or what not needs to take place on a computer and not an iPad.

I too have long converted all my CDs and most of MY DVDs with some still left to do once I go Drobo and expand my storage, and now I buy almost all my music and movies and TV shows from iTunes, but I don't see having just an iPad as a reality in the next 2 years. Beyond that, who knows.


Well put and appreciated. Couple reactions...

-It's possible Apple could develop an on-iPad media sync/management tool which would only require you to connect to an external HD rather than a computer itself. It may not be likely from Apple, though it's possible. It's also quite possible we'll see something like this from within the jailbreak community.

-Same with iPad OS downloads. As pointed out elsewhere, if Apple cordons off a section of the memory to handle this, they could enable untethered OS updates.

-As for backing up and then syncing to a new iPad, I don't know. Given the above it may not be necessary to have a computer to do this.

All in all though, I have never been of the view that the iPad could be all things to all people. I can't say it enough however, that it's simply not meant or designed to be. And that's okay!

It's designed to be good/great for what most of the people do most of the time.

Pro-video editing, heavy photoshop type stuff...yeah not gonna happen in the near or medium term. I do though feel that the iron inside will ultimately (A6? A7 anyone?) be able to handle those chores assuming the UI issues for those types of applications get satisfactorily worked out.

I received a 48 hour suspension of my posting privileges, which ended yesteday at 4PM. I presume it was because MacRumors is "pro Apple" and I posted a lot of negative opinion about the iPad. I guess, as always, there really is no such thing as "free speech" on any forum. sigh. (I was suspended without notice or private message--no warning and no explanation).


Welcome back :) If it makes you feel any better, I too got a suspension without notice or PM. I did get an explanation via a system message of sorts. I was apparently over aggressive in talking about my blog. It's legal to link to one in your signature, and legal to discuss one in context, etc. but not legal to "promote" it, a line I apparently crossed.

It ain't only what you say, it's how you say it.
 

samcraig

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I'm not going to give you my resume or anything of the like. But simply put, you're wrong. And I don't need to call you delusional either.

CD sales are down - but they will still be manufactured for many years still. If I had to guess - I'd say well past the iPad v4.0. But go ahead and ring the death knell if it helps you argue your point.

As for video - you are misinformed or are not conveying the full picture. I'm not sure if you are just speaking from what you've heard or thought you read - or not. But here's a link/quote which can explain the whole bitrate thing for you: http://gizmodo.com/5048025/giz-explains-why-hd-video-downloads-arent-very-high-def

This comparison test we ran in February pretty much shows you what's wrong: No matter how awesome MPEG-4 compression—or whatever the codec of the month is—gets, it can't work miracles when it's missing bits. It's why Vudu, for instance, is testing out a new closer-to-real-HD service—that they've revealed to us has three times the bitrate of any other download service on the market, meaning it should be close to 20Mbps—that will take hours to deliver to your home. But even then, the notion that it would truly rival Blu-ray is totally laughable.

No one will argue that these formats are not worth of watching. But if you're a true videophile, then you want the very best bitrate which Blu-Ray offers.

Many people won't or don't care - I'll give you that. But it's marketing/spin/BS to educate the consumer incorrectly to believe that they are getting the same when they aren't.

As for me quoting your blog and your posts here - the point I was making is that you are stating that you don't need to rip cds and in your blog you say you still do. You say you don't need another computer if you have your iPad because everything is in the cloud - but your blog states you still need your computer to sync.

Maybe in the future you'll be iPad ONLY - but clearly that's not in 2010. Or perhaps not for a few years off...
 

dave1812dave

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Welcome back :) If it makes you feel any better, I too got a suspension without notice or PM. I was apparently over aggressive in talking about my blog. It's legal to link to one in your signature, and legal to discuss one in context, etc. but not legal to "promote" it, a line I apparently crossed.

It ain't what you say, it's how you say it.

Dang!

I would have respected the "powers that be" if they had simply pointed out what specific thing I did wrong, especially in light of the many posts being "anti-iPad". I don't recall my posts being out of character with a preponderance of the posts that dissed the iPad. Whatever the problem, I feel MR could have PM'd me with a copy of what they objected to. At this point, I'm afraid to say anything negative about an Apple product on this site.
 

ucfgrad93

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I guess, as always, there really is no such thing as "free speech" on any forum. sigh. (I was suspended without notice or private message--no warning and no explanation).

Of course there is not. MacRumors is perfectly within their rights to censor what goes on their website. Although, I do think that you should have been notified about what caused the "Time Out."

Personally, I'm glad they moderate the forums. Have you ever tried to read through the comments on Boy Genius Report or Engadet? It is simply awful.
 

lordhamster

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Of course there is not. MacRumors is perfectly within their rights to censor what goes on their website. Although, I do think that you should have been notified about what caused the "Time Out."

Personally, I'm glad they moderate the forums. Have you ever tried to read through the comments on Boy Genius Report or Engadet? It is simply awful.

Engadget's comments are fairly good today. :)
 

r0k

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Engadget's comments are fairly good today. :)

Engadget shut off their comment system today... Is that what you mean?

BTW for a thread about sentiments shifting positive, things have sure gotten negative in here! :eek:

I perceive a more favorable reaction to iPad today than the day after the announcement. I think the first people to react were the tech crowd who were hanging their hopes on a "Mac Pro Tablet". They were rightly disappointed. But in recent days, more and more thought has been given to whether the ipad will connect with an intended audience and whether such an audience exists rather than simply "Will I buy one on day one". I must admit I'm biased. I'm a buy it on day one category kind of user. I own an iTouch and it works very well for me in all ways except for the tiny screen. I might carry around both devices some times, always have the 'touch with me and have the 'pad with me maybe 30 percent of the time. I own a netbook now but it's such a pain to use (Ubuntu Acer Aspire One) I only carry it about 5 percent of the time. I don't expect to write long essays on iWork on my iPad, but I do expect to use my Macbook through my iPad with a bluetooth keyboard. I can keep my iPad on my night stand and I only have to go a few steps to do real work. I'll not bother with the keyboard dock. It would force me to portrait orientation and to screenshare into a normal Mac, I will want landscape. So I'll have a cobbled up oak stand and a bluetooth keyboard. I expect to grab my iPad when I'm running out the door to a class or meeting. I expect to struggle with the on screen keyboard a bit but I'll accept that compromise to get a tablet sized device (not merely a bulky tablet pc that weighs 5 or 6 pounds and has its screen on backwards).

This perception that the tone is turning positive is purely anecdotal. Especially after reading through this thread. The very thread that is about things being more positive has some of the most negative comments. I'll chalk that up to a few overly excited individuals and not let it skew my perception that the world is warming up to the Ipad. Another bit of evidence: Google is showing a tablet (software) prototype. They cooked up that demo in a big hurry. If the iPad was no threat, they wouldn't have bothered. More and more analysts are wondering if this thing could represent as fundamental a shift as the Mac did in 1984. I know Jobs said that but remember he is the author of and biggest consumer of Apple Kool Aid. To have independent analysts speculating along the same lines means Apple may have struck a nerve with the iPad.
 

anthonymoody

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I'm not going to give you my resume or anything of the like. But simply put, you're wrong. And I don't need to call you delusional either.

CD sales are down - but they will still be manufactured for many years still. If I had to guess - I'd say well past the iPad v4.0. But go ahead and ring the death knell if it helps you argue your point.

As for video - you are misinformed or are not conveying the full picture. I'm not sure if you are just speaking from what you've heard or thought you read - or not. But here's a link/quote which can explain the whole bitrate thing for you: http://gizmodo.com/5048025/giz-explains-why-hd-video-downloads-arent-very-high-def

This comparison test we ran in February pretty much shows you what's wrong: No matter how awesome MPEG-4 compression—or whatever the codec of the month is—gets, it can't work miracles when it's missing bits. It's why Vudu, for instance, is testing out a new closer-to-real-HD service—that they've revealed to us has three times the bitrate of any other download service on the market, meaning it should be close to 20Mbps—that will take hours to deliver to your home. But even then, the notion that it would truly rival Blu-ray is totally laughable.

No one will argue that these formats are not worth of watching. But if you're a true videophile, then you want the very best bitrate which Blu-Ray offers.

Many people won't or don't care - I'll give you that. But it's marketing/spin/BS to educate the consumer incorrectly to believe that they are getting the same when they aren't.

As for me quoting your blog and your posts here - the point I was making is that you are stating that you don't need to rip cds and in your blog you say you still do. You say you don't need another computer if you have your iPad because everything is in the cloud - but your blog states you still need your computer to sync.

Maybe in the future you'll be iPad ONLY - but clearly that's not in 2010. Or perhaps not for a few years off...


Sam trust me you don't need to lecture me on video bitrates, the dogfood being fed to consumers, or anything of the kind. I'm a film producer. Generating content and worrying about how it gets to consumers is what I do for a living. Add in the fact that I also happen to be a hyper anal videophile (if you want to sidebar on stacked Qualias, d-cinema in the home, the latest LED projectors, the Oppo SE, etc. I'd happily engage) but in any case I think it's fair to say I know well more than my fair share about all that. Sometimes more than I'd like to know!

What I don't understand is: what point you are making, or trying to make? What is it that you think I'm saying about video quality???

Bottom line re: video quality and streaming. Ultimately, and I mean ultimately, consumers will be able to download True 3DHD bit for bit with hard media, which will of course cease to exist (yup, I'm one of those guys). Will it require an explosion in bandwidth? Of course. But we'll get there. I won't debate this point with you, I will simply wait it out.

Re: ripping CDs and DVDs, I mentioned it - both on my blog and here - as a realistic reason to hold onto my iMac. I never said anything contradictory about this need. It's far from the most compelling reason, which for me is to store and sync media. But it's what I already use my iMac for, so in my context I don't "lose" any ripping functionality by switching from my MBP to an iPad because I never rip on my laptop. Nor do I watch DVDs on my laptop (too cumbersome for me and I have way too many way better alternative displays).
 

Luis Ortega

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The tenor of/in many of the threads on here has taken an undeniable turn for the positive.

Not really.
It's just that the realists aren't motivated by fanboy attitudes and said what they had to say and moved on.
The fact is that the ipad is a toy, not a computer.
 

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anthonymoody

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Not really.
It's just that the realists aren't motivated by fanboy attitudes and said what they had to say and moved on.
The fact is that the ipad is a toy, not a computer.


LOL. Thanks for the myoptic, short sighted troll.

Well, if it's vitriolic nonsensical engadget related anti-apple rantings you're craving, they've all moved here! http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/ax7aq/engadget_is_forced_to_turn_off_comments_after/


That is some hiLArious ***** in there. It's like water finding its own level - you turn off comments on one site and they find their way to another! :)
 
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