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People will buy it but there will be a greater potential for returns once they really see how small that screen gets when watching video or having the notch in the way. Many people have got use to watching video on a larger screen area.
I think most will use an ipad for major video watching. The x will be good on the go but i for one would never watch YouTube on phone unless i was waiting in the car or on the bike in the gym to by time.
 
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This year I used an LG G4, an iPhone 7, an iPhone 7 + and now the iPhone 8 (T-Mobile upgrade anytime).

All phones handled texting, browsing, app usage similarly. The main advantage the 7 + had over the competition was its larger screen for photos and videos. The X, though having a larger screen than a standard 7, uses about the same screen real estate for photos and videos compared to the standard 7.

The problem is that people keep comparing the “7 Plus” to the “X”, when they should be comparing the “7” to the “X”. I’m pretty sure the X is a bezeless 7 and we’ll be seeing it’s larger brother next year. That being said, the X is a taller version of the 7...with a notch and no home button.

If you told me you were going to take the 7, remove the home button, make the screen taller, but stick a notch on top....I would tell you to shove it where the sun don’t shine! I want my home button! I want a four corner display! I don’t want a thicker, heavier phone!

A taller display does what exactly? I can see 1/4 more of an image on the bottom of a webpage? I get one more line of text in a Messages conversation? Ridiculous and meaningless. People like shiny new toys. Troll me all you want, it’s just sad that this is the direction Apple went. Nothing more than disappointment on my end.

The only thing I hear is the distant laugh of Scott Forstall.
But the iPhone 5 was the exact same approach: it was a taller iPhone with the same screen width as its predecessors.
 
I think most will use an ipad for major video watching. The x will be good on the go but i for one would never watch YouTube on phone unless i was waiting in the car or on the bike in the gym to by time.

The Problem is...smartphones are making tablets obsolete. For a lot of us even with tablets and other devices, the phone is starting to become the go to source for video especially in terms of YouTube viewing.
 
Why do people keep telling us why the 8 is better than the X?

Why don’t I see anyone waiting for the X trashing the 8

Why can’t they just be different phones that meet the needs of different users?

Folks who want a proven solution with a big screen need the 8+, those who want to be on the cutting edge of technology in a more compact form choose the X

My mom always said “Good things come to those who wait”

For those of you who think it’s not a good phone don’t buy it. Those of us who are thank you for getting out of the way
 
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Why do people keep telling us why the 8 is better than the X?

Why don’t I see anyone waiting for the X trashing the 8

Why can’t they just be different phones that meet the needs of different users?

Folks who want a proven solution with a big screen need the 8+, those who want to be on the cutting edge of technology in a more compact form choose the X

My mom always said “Good things come to those who wait”

For those of you who think it’s not a good phone don’t buy it. Those of us who are thank you for getting out of the way

It's primarily because those who either can't afford the X, or who want it but bought the 8 now, are trying to justify their position. They're driving facts to fit a self-imposed argument.

We've seen this so many times in the past where posters criticize a new release as unworthy of an upgrade, but later that same phone is generally heralded as a major improvement over its predecessor.
 
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I watch videos on my iPad, not my iPhone. I very much suspect I use my phone quite a bit differently than you do. So I fail to see the point of your post.

I thought my point was pretty clear:

Video on the iPhone X will be smaller than on an iPhone Plus model. But the iPhone X actually costs more.

Is it the end of the world? No. I'm still gonna buy one as I can live with these flaws.

And yes... if you don't watch video on a phone then none of this applies to you. Feel free to skip those comments. :)
 
It's primarily because those who either can't afford the X, or who want it but bought the 8 now, are trying to justify their position. They're driving facts to fit a self-imposed argument.

We've seen this so many times in the past where posters criticize a new release as unworthy of an upgrade, but later that same phone is generally heralded as a major improvement over its predecessor.

I kind of thought as much. Looking forward to the X
 
People are upset to pay $1,000 for this new flagship phone... and their videos will be smaller than on the Plus phone they bought last year for $769

That seems like a fair argument.

I know, I know... it's a physically smaller phone. But I can see their point. (and I'm one of them) :p
yes, some people.. a lot of people even..

but i would guess most, by far, will not have the experience you've outlined.
everything will be larger than they're used to.



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(me personally-- going to a X from a 6s)
 
Your argument is invalid because it's based on false information. There is no compromise. Maybe for you. But you can't extrapolate your personal feelings to the whole world. I know what I'm gaining and what I'm giving up. I've played with it in the simulator. I know what it's going to cost me. I'm an educated consumer and as a developer, I'd like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable when it comes to technology. I totally get aspect ratios, pixels, points, diagonal measurements, safe areas, etc. I've been on here daily filling in any gaps in my knowledge. Baring my eyes being opened when I actually get to play with one, I'm happy with my choices. So your prediction of "a lot of people..." doesn't really hold any water. Unless you accidentally left out "a lot of people, who agree with me, ...".
No, there is a compromise. People that use a plus have gotten used to a larger screen. They won’t know if the choice they imagined in their mind is what they want until they hold it in their hands.

I do think that a lot of plus owners will agree with me - there does that satisfy you? To think that population is small or doesn’t exist is pretty ignorant.
 
Iphone x is the upgrade for the 4.7” iphone and NOT for the plus
Even apple compared it to the 4.7” one

Next year we will get the updated plus version with the edge to edge 6.4”
Not on the “s” year. Apple introduced 3 new phones this year. I doubt a plus will happen until 2019 especially with how difficult it was reported for Apple to get the OLEDs it needed this year.
 
This is what I think will happen -

There will be a lot of Plus owners that will order the X. Once they get it they will be disappointed in the screen size, which will trigger massive returns of the X back to Apple.

Who knows, I might be in the minority, but the screen size is the only deal breaker for me. I'll stick with my 7 plus and hope that next year they come out with an X+

This is exactly how i think this will play out. I predict the 8+ model will see a substantial boost in sales with the X release and predict a large number of the sales will be from X returns, however i still think the X will be their best selling iPhone in many years, i just feel after the initial few days playing with it & the novelty wears many will be considering the plus model as a preference and the incentive of an extra £300+ back in the wallet is not to be sniffed at.

The X is already polarising and it really will need to really pull it out the bag with knockout features/spec to justify that price tag, otherwise its just another iPhone with edge to edge display
 
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But the iPhone 5 was the exact same approach: it was a taller iPhone with the same screen width as its predecessors.
This is fine, but there was no sacrifice made to the rest of the design while doing so. I’m all for taller, larger screens, but only if it makes sense. In this case, it doesn’t.
 
I’ll be upgrading from an S7 edge. Do you think the screen will feel like a downgrade going to an iPhone X?
 
No, there is a compromise. People that use a plus have gotten used to a larger screen. They won’t know if the choice they imagined in their mind is what they want until they hold it in their hands.

I do think that a lot of plus owners will agree with me - there does that satisfy you? To think that population is small or doesn’t exist is pretty ignorant.

I'm a Plus owner and I disagree. So no, I guess that doesn't satisfy me. I also think to make any assumptions about what the general population wants is also pretty ignorant. Unless the person has studies and data or something beyond their own opinion to back that up. Based on your comment of "I do think...", I'm going to assume that's not the case here.

I absolutely believe there will be some disappointed people who are going to be shocked by the screen size. But I wouldn't go so far as to assume that's "most". I personally don't believe the general public walked away thinking the X replaces the Plus line. The only place I've seen that sentiment is here on these forums. But now I'm assuming what the general public will think without any data to back it up, so it seems like as good point as any to exit this conversation. We're arguing opinions and not likely to get too far doing that.
 
This is fine, but there was no sacrifice made to the rest of the design while doing so. I’m all for taller, larger screens, but only if it makes sense. In this case, it doesn’t.
I do believe it does make sense. The iPhone X is a natural progression of the regular smaller iPhone. I think we all should stop comparing it to the Plus: Apple wanted to introduce both, X and X Plus, this year, but it didn't pan out. Next year we will see both when it all finally makes sense. The problem is the X is still too new and not ripe in terms of technology, thus this crazy price tag this year. Most likely, next year the new X will be $799 and the X Plus will be priced at $999.
 
I do believe it does make sense. The iPhone X is a natural progression of the regular smaller iPhone. I think we all should stop comparing it to the Plus: Apple wanted to introduce both, X and X Plus, this year, but it didn't pan out. Next year we will see both when it all finally makes sense. The problem is the X is still too new and not ripe in terms of technology, thus this crazy price tag this year. Most likely, next year the new X will be $799 and the X Plus will be priced at $999.

I hope so, them my IUP payments will go down. But I fear succes at this price point will keep the price up.
 
Sounds like the bottom line is that if you're "upgrading" from your plus model you're still actually downsizing. This was my impression all along and why I decided just to go from the 6 Plus to the 8 Plus, prior to that I was going to wait it out.

BTW kudos to this woman's explanation, just excellent
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tbh, just about everything she says is inaccurate or misunderstood to ,at least, some degree.. then the comment section gets even worse with people accepting what's being said at face value.

for example, she talks about the importance of 16:9 and alludes to 16:9 phones be superior for viewing video.. ok, cool.. but her own video is not shot 16:9..

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see, her video is letterboxed to fit into youtube's 16:9 ratio.. viewing that video (likely 1.85:1) will appear near similar size on iPhone X or Plus.. viewing the majority of movies at their native aspect (2.35:1) will appear larger on an iPhone X..

idk, there are many variables at play regarding how video will appear on different sized screens but everybody in these X vs + arguments are acting like 16:9 is some sort of golden rule standard.. when it's most definitely not.

tbh, i think most of these arguments around here (and elsewhere) are futile.. for as much as people like to throw opinion as fact around here, it seems lopsided that the main argument isn't "if you like, or think you'll like using the phone, then use it.. if you don't think you'll like it then don't use it"

because that's about the best way to judge any of this.. if you want to argue subjectively then embrace the subjectiveness and understand there are many opinions/tastes other than your own..
trying to argue which one is the best based on non-facts presented as fact, or based on half-truths or misunderstood numbers/specs.. is pretty nutz imo.
 
tbh, just about everything she says is inaccurate or misunderstood to ,at least, some degree.. then the comment section gets even worse with people accepting what's being said at face value.

for example, she talks about the importance of 16:9 and alludes to 16:9 phones be superior for viewing video.. ok, cool.. but her own video is not shot 16:9..

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see, her video is letterboxed to fit into youtube's 16:9 ratio.. viewing that video (likely 1.85:1) will appear near similar size on iPhone X or Plus.. viewing the majority of movies at their native aspect (2.35:1) will appear larger on an iPhone X..

idk, there are many variables at play regarding how video will appear on different sized screens but everybody in these X vs + arguments are acting like 16:9 is some sort of golden rule standard.. when it's most definitely not.

tbh, i think most of these arguments around here (and elsewhere) are futile.. for as much as people like to throw opinion as fact around here, it seems lopsided that the main argument isn't "if you like, or think you'll like using the phone, then use it.. if you don't think you'll like it then don't use it"

because that's about the best way to judge any of this.. if you want to argue subjectively then embrace the subjectiveness and understand there are many opinions/tastes other than your own..
trying to argue which one is the best based on non-facts presented as fact, or based on half-truths or misunderstood numbers/specs.. is pretty nutz imo.

Exactly.

The argument that the Plus screen is bigger than the X screen would be valid if all the phone did was play 16:9 video.
 
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tbh, just about everything she says is inaccurate or misunderstood to ,at least, some degree.. then the comment section gets even worse with people accepting what's being said at face value.

for example, she talks about the importance of 16:9 and alludes to 16:9 phones be superior for viewing video.. ok, cool.. but her own video is not shot 16:9..

View attachment 724886

see, her video is letterboxed to fit into youtube's 16:9 ratio.. viewing that video (likely 1.85:1) will appear near similar size on iPhone X or Plus.. viewing the majority of movies at their native aspect (2.35:1) will appear larger on an iPhone X..

idk, there are many variables at play regarding how video will appear on different sized screens but everybody in these X vs + arguments are acting like 16:9 is some sort of golden rule standard.. when it's most definitely not.

tbh, i think most of these arguments around here (and elsewhere) are futile.. for as much as people like to throw opinion as fact around here, it seems lopsided that the main argument isn't "if you like, or think you'll like using the phone, then use it.. if you don't think you'll like it then don't use it"

because that's about the best way to judge any of this.. if you want to argue subjectively then embrace the subjectiveness and understand there are many opinions/tastes other than your own..
trying to argue which one is the best based on non-facts presented as fact, or based on half-truths or misunderstood numbers/specs.. is pretty nutz imo.
There is no way anything will look bigger on the X compared to the Plus if you watch it with letterboxes on all sides to avoid the notch getting in the way!
 
There is no way anything will look bigger on the X compared to the Plus if you watch it with letterboxes on all sides to avoid the notch getting in the way!

If you watch a Movie / Video shot in a super widescreen format like 21:9 it could use more of the screen on an X over a Plus.
 
There is no way anything will look bigger on the X compared to the Plus if you watch it with letterboxes on all sides to avoid the notch getting in the way!
hmm. that is not true.

even if you stop a typical movie at the notch, it will still be larger on the X :

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likewise, if you keep a margin on the right to match the notch margin, it will still be larger on the X
 
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