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Radon87000

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More whining about nonexistant 'lag', really?

Such childishness expecting everything to be perfect.
So something takes a microsecond longer to render, or skips for the tiniest fraction of a second, it's not the end of the world.

It does not disrupt your ability to use the device, there is no good reason to complain.

Thing is they promised improved performance which was one of the main highlights of the release
 

Merkie

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Oct 23, 2008
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No lag at all with my iPhone 6. But I have to say in some ways it is not as smooth as under iOS8. Especially the browsing experience. While scrolling there is sometimes lag that was not there before. But the overall experience with iOS9 is far far away from being horrible or ridiculous...
It's not horrible. It is less smooth and fluid than iOS 8, whilst Apple promised otherwise. They promised something better and we got something worse.
 

TC03

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Aug 17, 2008
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What seems to be difficult to grasp is that other people's phones may not be having the issues that yours is. Because when I can compare to a variety of devices and iOS versions, even phones that don't use Metal at all and tell you there is no difference, there is no difference.
I simply don't believe that. All the phones in the Apple Store suffer from it, and you're telling me that besides these phones there are perfectly smooth phones out there? If so, why isn't there a single iOS 9 video which is buttery smooth?
 
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Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Well, stutter and lag is almost everywhere, and completely random.

And when I play some games, this feeling is more than noticeable, just don't serious enough that I want to smash the phone.

Here is an I think good point. iOS 9 stutter and lag is unacceptable not because it is that lag and stutter, not buttery smooth, but this version is the version Apple has promised to improve on performance, on stage, on WWDC. Or Apple think such announcements are nonsense.
 
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I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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Well, stutter and lag is almost everywhere, and completely random.

And when I play some games, this feeling is more than noticeable, just don't serious enough that I want to smash the phone.

Here is an I think good point. iOS 9 stutter and lag is unacceptable not because it is that lag and stutter, not buttery smooth, but this version is the version Apple has promised to improve on performance, on stage, on WWDC. Or Apple think such announcements are nonsense.
Certainly not for all. Many seem to be happy with iOS 9 with lag and stutter non-existent. Seems like the case every September.
 

TitanTiger

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I simply don't believe that. All the phones in the Apple Store suffer from it, and you're telling me that besides these phones there are perfectly smooth phones out there? If so, why isn't there a single iOS 9 video which is buttery smooth?

Yep. I'm telling you that there are many people who are not having major issues with choppiness and stuttering. I'm telling you that I can compare an iPhone 6 and a 5 right here in my own house and there's no difference in the two I that regard.

Maybe I don't believe you at this point. I think all the symptoms of this supposed lag and frame dropping is psychosomatic. See how easy that is?
 

CupertinoSlave

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Sep 16, 2014
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Yep. I'm telling you that there are many people who are not having major issues with choppiness and stuttering. I'm telling you that I can compare an iPhone 6 and a 5 right here in my own house and there's no difference in the two I that regard.

Maybe I don't believe you at this point. I think all the symptoms of this supposed lag and frame dropping is psychosomatic. See how easy that is?
You don't believe any of the videos showed to you? Its all a conspiracy, right?
 

AbSoluTc

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Sep 21, 2008
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Don't know about frame rates, but here's my phone video.


Video looks just like mine. I see no issues.


The way you make it sound is that this lag is hard to detect when it's not.Its clearly visible in day to day use.Especially when I am in a call and I need they keypad the stutter is atrociously bad

How do you expect me to set up a controlled environment to show you the lag.It doesn't occur 100% of the time.

Please don't tell me you think that because the video itself is 60fps, that the OS itself is running at 60fps...

The only objective measure for iOS fps is to use XCode instruments - you can see yourself the FPS stutters.

Yep. I'm telling you that there are many people who are not having major issues with choppiness and stuttering. I'm telling you that I can compare an iPhone 6 and a 5 right here in my own house and there's no difference in the two I that regard.

Maybe I don't believe you at this point. I think all the symptoms of this supposed lag and frame dropping is psychosomatic. See how easy that is?

I find it interesting that two people have posted videos of their phones (myself included) and we have no lag, yet nobody has commented on that other than you need to see it through this or it has to be 120fps or some other item that does not happen in day to day life. If I need XCode instruments to see what is going on, my life is ****ing boring.

Are there some glitches occasionally? Sure, will they be fixed in the next update? Perhaps. Am I happy with my phone right now? HELL YES!

Sounds like some of you really need to take a step back and re-evaluate the important things in your life or post a video of your perfect phone so others can tear into why it's still choppy and laggy even when it clearly isn't.
 
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C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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I wasn't talking about videos. I was replying to the "I bet 100 dollars the iPad Pro wouldn't stutter" that was said.

Going off all the logic of 8.4.1 > 9.0.2/9.1 then the iPad Pro will most definitely stutter too, since it's a iOS 9 issue and not hardware.

I want my $100 from Radon87000 :)
I was extending the same sort of logic that applies to this whole type of discussion.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Thing is they promised improved performance which was one of the main highlights of the release
Yeah, we get it, that part wasn't really delivered in the x.0 release so far. It doesn't make it for a horrible or bad release though. It does make it so that it's not all that better in some respects.

So what now, we have dozens of threads repeating same thing page after page because that will make things better or change anything?
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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I simply don't believe that. All the phones in the Apple Store suffer from it, and you're telling me that besides these phones there are perfectly smooth phones out there? If so, why isn't there a single iOS 9 video which is buttery smooth?
Because there are but people who believe there are issues will still see them somewhere no matter what. Just like those people believe that people who aren't having issues are just not noticing them.
 

TitanTiger

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Jun 8, 2009
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You don't believe any of the videos showed to you? Its all a conspiracy, right?

Of course I do. I'm showing you what you guys look like when we tell you we aren't having problems and even post videos. You just tell us we are but we aren't keen enough to see it like you are. It's ridiculous.
 

duffman9000

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Sep 7, 2003
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Pulling down on the home screen to open spotlight definitely lags and this lag did not occur in 8.4.1.

The keyboard rotation is comical at best. Won't be fixed until there is a massive SoC performance increase. But that is ridiculous in itself. An alleged desktop class SoC can't rotate a keyboard smoothly.
 

Fzang

macrumors 65816
Jun 15, 2013
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People perceive lag like they taste wine. Some notice the difference, while others are completely oblivious to any change.

So some people use Xcode to prove the drop in framerate. Does that mean the drop is otherwise perceivable or that you also need to read the label in order to move beyond "it tastes like wine I suppose"?
 

Radon87000

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Nov 29, 2013
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Video looks just like mine. I see no issues.










I find it interesting that two people have posted videos of their phones (myself included) and we have no lag, yet nobody has commented on that other than you need to see it through this or it has to be 120fps or some other item that does not happen in day to day life. If I need XCode instruments to see what is going on, my life is ****ing boring.

Are there some glitches occasionally? Sure, will they be fixed in the next update? Perhaps. Am I happy with my phone right now? HELL YES!

Sounds like some of you really need to take a step back and re-evaluate the important things in your life or post a video of your perfect phone so others can tear into why it's still choppy and laggy even when it clearly isn't.
You should read this article

http://www.cnet.com/news/some-iphone-users-say-ios-9-has-slowed-down-their-phones/
 

CupertinoSlave

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Sep 16, 2014
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So some users see this. Same thing has happened with iOS 8 and iOS 7 initial releases. It doesn't affect everyone, and with iOS 9 the issues are less widespread and less severe overall. What are we trying to prove here? Something that has been known for years now?
It does effect everyone, some people just don't care or notice. iOS devices are using the same exact software, its not going to magically only lag for half users and not the other half.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
It does effect everyone, some people just don't care or notice. iOS devices are using the same exact software, its not going to magically only lag for half users and not the other half.
So this is where the discussion goes around in circles. Since this can't be proven either way for the masses, posts have to be taken at face value. Many different devices, different configurations, different app mix etc.
 
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C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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It does effect everyone, some people just don't care or notice. iOS devices are using the same exact software, its not going to magically only lag for half users and not the other half.
It won't magically do it, it will just do it realistically.
 
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CupertinoSlave

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Sep 16, 2014
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So this is where the discussion goes around in circles. Since this can't be proven either way for the masses, posts have to be taken at face value. Many different devices, different configurations, different app mix etc.
Im talking about the same device (eg. iPhone 6) running iOS 9. Apps have nothing to do with the animation lag throughout the OS.
 

duffman9000

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Sep 7, 2003
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Im talking about the same device (eg. iPhone 6) running iOS 9. Apps have nothing to do with the animation lag throughout the OS.

When apps are running in the background i will see lag. Such as, when restoring from back up and apps are being restored there is very little free CPU cycles to cope with multitasking. This has been the case for years.

I once saw an iOS 9 alert asking me if I want App X to continue to work in the background. This occurred despite having background refresh turned off.

There are some areas that consistently lag. Other areas that sometimes lag. I had enough of 9.0.2 and I'm using the latest 9.1 beta. Much better. I don't know if it's either updated apps or Apple finally getting their junk together.
 

beebarb

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Sep 10, 2015
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Im talking about the same device (eg. iPhone 6) running iOS 9. Apps have nothing to do with the animation lag throughout the OS.
Apps can have a noticeable impact on system operation.
I still have an old first generation iPad, had too many apps registered to notification center, and the UI response slowed to the point the home button wouldn't respond half the time.

Once I cleared notification center (since I only really use it to watch videos now), it ran a lot better.
 
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