Its failing because people now know they can replace their battery to get their performance back instead of being tricked into thinking they need to buy a new phone.
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iPhone XS Max This is why the new iPhones are failing
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Apple needs to replace the lightning connector with a USB-C connector. That would definitely entice me to upgrade!
Does that give you some form of satisfaction then if you don’t mind me asking? What does the added expense give you?
Price keeps away the people who just don;t care about iphone, If you are an apple fan boy, no matter it sold, you just pay it.
Also, My iphone 6s works perfectly.
Also, My iphone 6s works perfectly.
In my city, it’s imperative with the high crime rate, bomb threats and the many other issues going on at schools around the country, and she have after school and weekend activities, which I love to stay up on. If you have children it may not make sense to you for a 7yo to have a phone, but for my family it’s necessary. She do have limits to what and how long she use those certain apps for, have a very limited number of contacts to contact and I have Screen time enabled which has been working perfectly for us without any issues. My daughter is very mature and responsible for her age and tell me everything.
I use the iPhone X and have found it to be everything I need. I will get the iPad Pro 11” first then think about a new iPhone- I really hope that Apple goes for a USB-C connector for power/data...
I don’t think that’s the major contributor, but I do think that’s partially a contributor to slower upgrades. The battery replacement is exactly what Tim Cook said it is, is that it is contributing to a slower rate of upgrades with iPhones, but I am surprised how many consumers generally don’t even know about the battery replacement program, unless they are told by Apple, or pay attention to the marketing regarding the battery replacements.
It's not that.... I'm sure consumers knew about the battery replacement but didn't know that a battery replacement would bring back its performance. Many consumers thought, "why replace the battery only to have a slow phone?" No Apple Genius employees told anyone that a new battery make their phone new again.
How are you so sure? I mean, what leads you to believe that? I never came across anyone outside of tech forum that actually knew Apple was offering a battery replacement program. Again, they were only informed based on basic marketing from Apple, or ‘hearsay’. It wasn’t even really publicized other than just being really on the Internet or unless someone spoke with Apple.
If it wasn't well known, then the solution to the slow phone problem didn't exist and the only option for their slow phones was to buy a new one. Because there is now a solution, people are choosing to the $30 route than the ~1k route.
Some people may be choosing to replace their battery than buy a new phone. I did both as I bought the max and traded in the 6s.
You could always replace batteries and it’s always been cost effective to do so if you want to keep your phone another 2 years or so. The $30 deal was especially good, but if it cost what, $69 it still wasn’t a bad deal. I’m having the battery in my iPad Air 2 replaced, $99 and that’s for a relatively huge battery.
Unfortunately you couldn't really do it through Apple as they would only do it if your battery was really bad enough to justify it to them (even though the battery can be bad enough even before they would deem it to be). And doing it yourself or elsewhere would void the warranty on your phone so that if you did have anything going on in the future Apple would effectively not even look at it.
I’ve never had them tell me ‘no’ if I was willing to pay and the battery tested bad - 80% I think. That said, I didn’t want them to replace a battery because it dropped 1% in the first month lol. My iPad Air 2 battery is around 60% and experiences random crashes (it might not do this with ‘throttling’).
Right, it had to get tested at 80% or below basically before they would even consider a replacement. The problem with that is that things can already be noticeably worse even when the battery is in the 80 - 90% range, enough for someone to want to get the battery replaced.
I will replace my battery if I don’t find a phone I like this year. I have the XS max but I upgrade every year.
I can’t imagine ever being satisfied paying more for something than I have to. Not sure what you’d get out of that personally but there we go.
We USED to know THOSE true sales figures when Apple sold out on release day, indeed month, and for months on end just kept selling every one they could make. Apple used to report their numbers with glee.
Now, newer models are available on release day and for every day past. And THAT's not because Apple have stocked so many more. That's not their way. They like/love to create the 'demand'. It's BECAUSE their phones are ridiculously priced now versus what they provide, and against their competition. And we have simply stopped buying them every model cycle en masse.
I was late to Apple. Did not buy my first Apple anything until iPhone4. Went every model thru to iPhone 7+. Then, stalled...the pricing was getting silly.
If it wasn't for a Telstra mistake in Australia where I was i offered in writing an iPhone XS Max 256Gb model for, on a new 2 year contract, AUD $45 a month x 24 = AUD $1086, a 'saving' of AUD$960 over the RETAIL PRICE OF THAT PHONE IN AUSTRALIA of AUD 2046 ( A >TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR PHONE!) , I would STILL be on my iPhone 7+. It took Telstra 2 1/2 months to get my Account right after I signed as they could not figure out how/why I had received the offer, nor how to get it input into their systems!
Apple have started to go beyond "premium", and they ARE a premium brand; they are pricing themselves as a LUXURY brand.
THAT, given what they sell, THEY ARE NOT. NO phone...PHONE....manufacturer, indeed tablet or PC maker, could/should be considered a LUXURY brand.
Consider that - A LUXURY brand. IF that's how they want to perceive themselves, or have US perceive them via their pricing models, well, I would consider their iPhone to be a luxury I can do without. I will happily buy other products by other manufactueres that are now in the market. With very very similar capability and specs. Some of them, like the One+ brand, are making PREMIUM (WHAT APPLE used to aspire to do) products at sub-Premium pricing. Let alone LUXURY pricing.
Has ANYONE priced up the TOP level TABLET Apple sell in Australia? AUD 2869 for a TABLET. A capable tablet, no-one is arguing. A premium tablet. But at AUD $3168 if you include a Smart Keyboard, AGAIN I argue you're not in premium territory anymore, you're in LUXURY. I have 4 iPads including a Gen 2 Pro. THAT's where, again I stop, THAT cost me just over AUD $1300....
Their >500 Apple Shops are going to turn into the Louis Vuitton or Chanel or Givenchy or stores for Luxury I.T..... IT's JUST I.T people...they may well be successful in doing so, but as an Apple fan for 8-9 years, they have bitten THIS person's hand that used to feed them.
I LOVE their products. I won't slavishly buy them now though. They're just NOT THAT good...
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I went to price out an XS Max at 512 GB and found the price to be close to 1,600 US dollars!
That's insane.
I will not give Apple so much of my money. I'm holding on to my iPhone until the bitter end and then buying something more reasonable.
Apple is not living in the real world that I am.
That's insane.
I will not give Apple so much of my money. I'm holding on to my iPhone until the bitter end and then buying something more reasonable.
Apple is not living in the real world that I am.
To pay $1,600 for a phone I would need it to be able to dock on my desk so I could then use a monitor, keyboard and mouse with it. But for what it currently offers, that’s too much to justify the cost. But, I didn’t buy it and you don’t have to buy it either if it doesn’t fit your needs.