In which case listing issues with the video format itself isn’t all that relevant to the debate.TikTok will be banned because they are a business from China and China's government, by their law, has to have backdoor access to TikTok's servers. It is not being banned due to short-form videos training people to have short attention spans, right...
A company like TikTok won't anonymize user data with encryption because they most likely claim their 'algorithms' need specificity to tailor their services per user.In which case listing issues with the video format itself isn’t all that relevant to the debate.
If data safety is the only motivation behind the legislation it would have been easy enough to mandate collected customer data be encrypted or anonymized in a way that makes it impossible for foreign companies to identify individual user data, like how Apple uses differential privacy. Instead, it’s mandating a sale which seems like it’s coming more from a place of wanting to remove competition to American tech companies. Similarly, Huawei was recently banned from buying Intel chips for their consumer laptops but not servers, which is very strange if the goal was enhancing national security.
They will if they want to operate in the states and it’s mandated, just like how they had to be GDPR compliant to be in Europe. Of course, if they don’t it would be a reasonable excuse to ban them based on this law. That’s not how legislators are going about this though.A company like TikTok won't anonymize user data with encryption because they most likely claim their 'algorithms' need specificity to tailor their services per user.
I’m not saying the U.S. doesn’t have a right to remove foreign competition or protect the local economy. Every country can and should do as it sees fit when it comes to trade and commerce. I’m just pointing out that the reason given are rather dishonest in many of these cases when it comes to Chinese tech companies.Removing competition is not a modern concept. All countries do it in some way. China can dump their excess capacity tech from their economy into Western economies and sell it cheaper...this destroys local competition. China banned iPhones from their government offices, is this getting rid of competition? Huawei's founder was originally a high ranking military officer. China's government chose Huawei to be one of its export stars. It goes on and on...
You can assume it is about removing competition from a Chinese tech company in the US, that is one way to look at, or it's just the US government looking-out for the US because it is China and China's government is not a democracy, right. Relations between China's government and the West is not currently great, right.They will if they want to operate in the states and it’s mandated, just like how they had to be GDPR compliant to be in Europe.
I’m not saying the U.S. doesn’t have a right to remove foreign competition or protect the local economy. Every country can and should do as it sees fit when it comes to trade and commerce. I’m just pointing out that the reason given are rather dishonest in many of these cases when it comes to Chinese tech companies.
I’m not disputing that relations with China is pretty tense at the moment, but using a politically motivated reason to resolve a trade dispute will harm the U.S. market in the long run. It will make capital from other countries with more neutral relations with the U.S. more hesitant about contributing into the U.S. economy. It would be a hard sell to invest in a market when any company can be forced to sell its assets or shut down operations based on a political whim and not resolved through normal channels for trade disputes. This systemic consistency and protection of property is one of the great competitive advantages of western markets, and now that’s being slowly eroded.You can assume it is about removing competition from a Chinese tech company in the US, that is one way to look at, or it's just the US government looking-out for the US because it is China and China's government is not a democracy, right. Relations between China's government and the West is not currently great, right.
Scrolling through short video after video really is for zombies. It teaches people to have really short attention spans. I would argue this short-form video crap makes people stupid.
If onlyYou almost had me for "First banned social media app."
But at least they won't shove anti-Western content down everyone's throat.While I agree with all of the issues of short-form videos, banning TikTok will do nothing to curb this. American users will just migrate to Youtube Shorts and Instagram which copies both TikTok's format and all of its problems.
But at least they won't shove anti-Western content down everyone's throat.
Idiots living an idiot's life isn't my concern. Becoming a political force manipulated by foreign actors is, as it impacts my own life and well-being.Small victory considering all the dicy content they already shove down everyone’s throats.
Chinese total garbagewhy? a simple “why” can sound so ominous/adversarial online lol, not my goal, I’m genuinely curious about your thoughts
Great Idea. But will still get banned by our Government.
almost banned in the us you mean, rest of the world can still use it.
almost banned in the us you mean, rest of the world can still use it.
valid points. I have seen evidence that the algorithm can easily lead users into quite an insular bubble—I see the same two sides to it that I always see to social media: it can be a place where people become part of echo chambers and don’t intellectually/emotionally grow; it can be a place for finding friends one shares a common bond with, particularly if one’s real-life environment is isolating for whatever reason (though I don’t think a lot of genuine social interaction is happening on TikTok, it is massively parasocial).Scrolling through short video after video really is for zombies. It teaches people to have really short attention spans. I would argue this short-form video crap makes people stupid.
Then there is the huge spread of misinformation because videos are so short you see only a tiny part of whatever it is...
Then there is the issue of all this user data feeding nefarious Chinese government AI algorithms to dream-up new ways to take advantage of democracies.
It's also banned in India.
And isn't allowed in China.
And that's just two off the top of my head.
There are probably more.
But if you feel fine and dandy using a platform from an Authoritarian Government that turns a blind eye to slavery and organ harvesting.
You defend them all day long.
You really are the best person here.
There are a whole lot of reasons but I will try to be as straightforward as possible:why? a simple “why” can sound so ominous/adversarial online lol, not my goal, I’m genuinely curious about your thoughts