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Feenician

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Are we watching the same video here? Note got thrashed in the application speed test, 5:06 Note, 3:21, iPhone. IPhone particularly pulled ahead in CPU intensive tasks, plus kept me apps in RAM despite having 3Gb vs the Note's 6Gb RAM. IPhone smashed the note in single core and wasnt far behind in multi, despite geekbench being embarrassingly parallel and the Note having more cores.

So what did the "Note 8 beat it" at exactly? Antutu and a couple of single apps? A stretch, I'd say. Worse is that the 7+ is last year's iPhone, the 2 year old 6s is still competitive or better in some cases (it really shouldn't be a competition) and the new iPhones release immediately and will utterly smash everything, including the already superior iPhone 7. Oops
 
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The Game 161

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What speed tests?

Where iphone 7 plus is quicker is gaming but other tasks the note 8 is faster generally more so in comparing apps




But really does one phone loading half a sec matter in real world usage? No it doesn't

What a phone does holds more value.
 

Feenician

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Where iphone 7 plus is quicker is gaming but other tasks the note 8 is faster generally more so in comparing apps

But really does one phone loading half a sec matter in real world usage? No it doesn't

What a phone does holds more value.

What? No. These videos don’t demonstrate your postulation at all and you keep posting it? In fact you’ve strayed right into complete misrepresentation territory (it’s a polite way of saying lies)

Simply not true

the recent speed tests with 7 plus vs note 8 the note 8 won rather easily.

The new A11 will be super fast but much difference from the note 8? Don't see it being much different

Well the note 8 beat the 7 plus in pretty much every task speed wise so i think the latest chip is faster than at least last years IPhone.

Who knows yet on the the A11

Recent speed tests suggest the note 8 beats 7 plus in speed tests yet some think 6s is faster. Odd
 

The Game 161

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What? No. These videos don’t demonstrate your postulation at all and you keep posting it? In fact you’ve strayed right into complete misrepresentation territory (it’s a polite way of saying lies)
What lies? In the speed tests note 8 came out on top. Those were just a few I saw recently. There are others around on YouTube but who really cares in the real world. When phones are so damn quick as it is one phone loading up faster than the other means nothing.

There is hardly anything between the two and although I expect 8 and x to be faster it won't be that much faster than the note 8. People certainly won't be buying the new iPhones on speed alone
 
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Feenician

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What lies? In the speed tests note 8 came out on top. Those were just a few I saw recently. There are others around on YouTube but who really cares in the real world. When phones are so damn quick as it is one phone loading up faster than the other means nothing.

There is hardly anything between the two and although I expect 8 and x to be faster it won't be that much faster than the note 8. People certainly won't be buying the new iPhones on speed alone

You’re really going to have to be specific here. What speed tests do you think the Note 8 won? That 3rd video in particular it got its ass handed to it. Did you actually watch them or where you just handed them?

The 7+, a year old phone, is already faster than the Note 8 in nearly every regard. The 6+ more than holds its I own. The 8 and 10 will serve it and any response in Samsung’s next phone, if the last 5 years of SOCs are any indication, won’t be nearly enough.
 

The Game 161

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You’re really going to have to be specific here. What speed tests do you think the Note 8 won? That 3rd video in particular it got its ass handed to it. Did you actually watch them or where you just handed them?

The 7+, a year old phone, is already faster than the Note 8 in nearly every regard. The 6+ more than holds its I own. The 8 and 10 will serve it and any response in Samsung’s next phone, if the last 5 years of SOCs are any indication, won’t be nearly enough.
In that 3rd video multitasking the iphone won but in terms of opening apps faster the note 8 was faster as it was slightly in the other two videos. There's not much between them at all in opening apps opening faster.

Why are you acting like the new iPhones opening slightly faster means much? In the real world nobody would notice the difference.

If all Apple has to boast about to opening apps faster while charging over a grand for these phones I think android are in a pretty good spot
 

Feenician

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In that 3rd video multitasking the iphone won but in terms of opening apps faster the note 8 was faster as it was slightly in the other two videos. There's not much between them at all in opening apps opening faster.

Why are you acting like the new iPhones opening slightly faster means much? In the real world nobody would notice the difference.

If all Apple has to boast about to opening apps faster while charging over a grand for these phones I think android are in a pretty good spot

Dude. Seriously. Stick to "muh widgets" or my "muh freedom to attempt to repair a $960 phone that distorts it's screen, has a fingerprint scanner that no-one can reach and will barely be updated"

Performance hasn't been a contest since the 5s and it won't be any time soon.
 

The Game 161

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Dude. Seriously. Stick to "muh widgets" or my "muh freedom to attempt to repair a $960 phone that distorts it's screen, has a fingerprint scanner that no-one can reach and will barely be updated"

Performance hasn't been a contest since the 5s and it won't be any time soon.
At least they have an option of a FP scanner..how long will it take for people to moan about face ID? Not long

What I will be angry about will be seeing the FP scanner being put under the screen on the S9 and note 9 while Apple still runs with only face ID

While I do think face ID will be a success for me I stand with hope apple get it under the screen as well
 

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Are we watching the same video here? Note got thrashed in the application speed test, 5:06 Note, 3:21, iPhone. IPhone particularly pulled ahead in CPU intensive tasks, plus kept me apps in RAM despite having 3Gb vs the Note's 6Gb RAM. IPhone smashed the note in single core and wasnt far behind in multi, despite geekbench being embarrassingly parallel and the Note having more cores.

So what did the "Note 8 beat it" at exactly? Antutu and a couple of single apps? A stretch, I'd say. Worse is that the 7+ is last year's iPhone, the 2 year old 6s is still competitive or better in some cases (it really shouldn't be a competition) and the new iPhones release immediately and will utterly smash everything, including the already superior iPhone 7. Oops

Did you not read it?

"The Galaxy Note 8 does score better in benchmark tests including Geekbench (multi-core) and AnTuTu, as you can see in the full clip below. But, again, the iPhone 8 is coming."
 

Feenician

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If all Apple has to boast about to opening apps faster while charging over a grand for these phones I think android are in a pretty good spot

Well if you're not a power user, what pieces of wallpaper you can see through your icons, rather than actual speed, will matter most.

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What? No. These videos don’t demonstrate your postulation at all and you keep posting it? In fact you’ve strayed right into complete misrepresentation territory (it’s a polite way of saying lies)

Dude, quit ignoring the facts. When he proves it to you now here come the excuses that these videos are bs and so on. So tired of the people on this site ignoring the facts like this. The iPhone is slower. End of story.
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You’re really going to have to be specific here. What speed tests do you think the Note 8 won? That 3rd video in particular it got its ass handed to it. Did you actually watch them or where you just handed them?

The 7+, a year old phone, is already faster than the Note 8 in nearly every regard. The 6+ more than holds its I own. The 8 and 10 will serve it and any response in Samsung’s next phone, if the last 5 years of SOCs are any indication, won’t be nearly enough.

You must be blind. The Note 8 won all 3 of those videos opening the apps up from scratch which is where the speed really pushes the cpu and nand speed. You can't admit you are wrong. Keep digging your grave deeper.
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Dude. Seriously. Stick to "muh widgets" or my "muh freedom to attempt to repair a $960 phone that distorts it's screen, has a fingerprint scanner that no-one can reach and will barely be updated"

Performance hasn't been a contest since the 5s and it won't be any time soon.

Someone's in serious denial. He can't admit the Note 8 is faster.
 

Feenician

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Did you not read it?

"The Galaxy Note 8 does score better in benchmark tests including Geekbench (multi-core) and AnTuTu, as you can see in the full clip below. But, again, the iPhone 8 is coming."

It wins in Antutu and has a very slight edge in multi core because geekbench multi scales nearly perfectly with multi-core and the the Note has more cores. It also has twice the RAM but can't actually keep anything loaded ;)

It's a year newer, still slower in the ways that matter (actually running and switching between apps). And, again, even the 2 year old 6s outpaced in a lot of important ways. The A11 powered 8 and 10 are about to seriously embarrass Samsung.
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You must be blind. The Note 8 won all
Someone's in serious denial. He can't admit the Note 8 is faster.

I'm embarrassed on your behalf. Your viewpoint does not match reality.
 

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It wins in Antutu and has a very slight edge in multi core because geekbench multi scales nearly perfectly with multi-core and the the Note has more cores. It also has twice the RAM but can't actually keep anything loaded ;)

It's a year newer, still slower in the ways that matter (actually running and switching between apps). And, again, even the 2 year old 6s outpaced in a lot of important ways. The A11 powered 8 and 10 are about to seriously embarrass Samsung.

Really? Can't actually keep 25 apps loaded? It kept all 25 apps loaded. And they are all MULTITASKING where the iPhone isn't. See video below. Give it up. You already lost this battle. Multiple people have been proving you been wrong and you won't give up. The 6s doesn't come close to the Note 8. The Note 8 beat the 7 plus. FACTS.

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I'm embarrassed on your behalf. Your viewpoint does not match reality.

Looks to me like you are the one per everyones posts.
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Feenician

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Really? Can't actually keep 25 apps loaded? It kept all 25 apps loaded. And they are all MULTITASKING where the iPhone isn't. See video below. Give it up. You already lost this battle. Multiple people have been proving you been wrong and you won't give up. The 6s doesn't come close to the Note 8. The Note 8 beat the 7 plus. FACTS.

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Looks to me like you are the wrong per everyones posts.

You have seriously lost the plot here. Consider sleeping.

The year old iPhone 7+ is faster than the Note 8 in almost every way. The 2 year old is faster in some ways. The iPhone 8 and 10 will take it to school and everyone knows it.

PS Chill out. Rara-ing a slow phone based poorly on generic software that's already bad is surely not worth this

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You have seriously lost the plot here. Consider sleeping.

The year old iPhone 7+ is faster than the Note 8 in almost every way. The 2 year old is faster in some ways. The iPhone 8 and 10 will take it to school and everyone knows it.

PS Chill out. Rara-ing a slow phone based poorly on generic software that's already bad is surely not worth this

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You lost it a long time ago. We all provided you the facts and proof backing it, but you continue to ignore it and say the iPhone is faster which it is clearly not. I'm done with someone that can't admit to defeat.
 

Shanghaichica

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You’re really going to have to be specific here. What speed tests do you think the Note 8 won? That 3rd video in particular it got its ass handed to it. Did you actually watch them or where you just handed them?

The 7+, a year old phone, is already faster than the Note 8 in nearly every regard. The 6+ more than holds its I own. The 8 and 10 will serve it and any response in Samsung’s next phone, if the last 5 years of SOCs are any indication, won’t be nearly enough.
Even if all of what you are saying is true does it matter in real terms?

Does the note 8 suddenly become unusable because the iPhone 7 plus can open apps a half a second faster?

Is the note 8 DOA because it didn't score as high as the 7 plus on single core score?

In real terms the note 8 is plenty fast.
 

Nisaja

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Well, I hate to break it to you guys, but the iPhone 7 Plus is still faster. Way faster.
 

Shanghaichica

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Dude. Seriously. Stick to "muh widgets" or my "muh freedom to attempt to repair a $960 phone that distorts it's screen, has a fingerprint scanner that no-one can reach and will barely be updated"

Performance hasn't been a contest since the 5s and it won't be any time soon.
There's nothing wrong with the FPS on my note 8 I can reach it quite easily.

What's the point in paying £1,000 plus for a phone that's using inferior screen technology, has an ugly notch and is still behind the competition in terms of features.

My note 8 will get Oreo and android P. However by that time I will probably have moved another phone as my contract allows me to upgrade after 12 months. Hell my 6 and 6S plus only saw one iOS update because I upgraded to the next model after a year. So the fact that an iPhone can get 4 OS updates is insignificant to me.
 
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The A11 processor is an amazing piece of tech. That keeps getting overlooked in these post-keynote discussions.

Every year Apple releases a so-called fast processor and it seemingly beats the competition. All I ask for is that every application works fast enough and that I can keep at least 20 open fully running applications held in memory (ram). Guess what, the note 8 does this plus more than any iPhone would ever do.


You guys will be back next year with the same thing but it changes nothing. You will have the same iOS experience as the other iOS devices without barely noticing any speed increases or other uses for that processor technology. No one cares about your processor speed so even Apple didn't press the issue.

You guys already forgot about your A10 and even A9 being amazing because quite frankly, it was useless.
 
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Nisaja

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Every year Apple releases a so-called fast processor and it seemingly beats the competition. All I ask for is that every application works fast enough and that I can keep at least 20 open fully running applications held in memory (ram). Guess what, the note 8 does this plus more than any iPhone would ever do.


You guys will be back next year with the same thing but it changes nothing. You will have the same iOS experience as the other iOS devices without barely noticing any speed increases or other uses for that processor technology. No one cares about your processor speed so even Apple didn't press the issue.

You guys already forgot about your A10 and even A9 being amazing because quite frankly, it was useless.

That's a cool video. Now let's see a video comparing the Note 8 with the 7 Plus. See which phone has better RAM management.
 

Klyster

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That's a cool video. Now let's see a video comparing the Note 8 with the 7 Plus. See which phone has better RAM management.

There was a video earlier which did just that but the guy said comparing them was pointless as the Note 8 was actually multitasking while the iPhone snapped a placeholder and paused the app, milliseconds involved, both apps picked upwhere they left off, the phones traded blows at being milliseconds faster the one another except for gaming where the iPhone was a bit faster than the Note.
It doesn't really matter though, the back and forth bragging and posturing gets boring and destroys threads.
I'm using an S7 edge, my Note turns up later in the week.
I've never felt the S7 edge was slow at anything, it's been a great phone.

What's important to anyone with a flagship phone?

My priorities are:

A reasonable battery life, all day is expected.
A full desktop browsing experience.
An easy to read screen, bigger is better.
Good camera, good video.
An SD card is a must for me, I tried without with a Note 5 and worried constantly about damaging the phone and losing content, I don't do cloud services.

Do I need a flagship? Probably not, I could probably get by with a sub 500 phone.

I used a 200 dollar M3s for a couple of weeks and didn't feel too put out.

I could probably be happy with an iPhone these days apart from the SD card and the limitations of the ecosytem but only if the battery life improves, that's one thing the iPhone is faster at for sure, chewing through battery life.


The thing is I get a new phone every year, I can get pretty much any phone I want but Samsung always seems to snag me each time.
The Note series in particular has impressed me since the Note 3. I skip the S series these days, the only reason I have the S7 edge was due to my Note being recalled.
 
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Well, I hate to break it to you guys, but the iPhone 7 Plus is still faster. Way faster.

Why you acting like that really matters even if it were true? Note 8 is blazing fast and more than fast enough for everybody who uses it
 
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