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Touch Bar discussion [merged]

ET iPhone Home said:
I went an Apple Store this morning and saw the MBProTB for the first time. I love it! I'm ready to make the purchase anytime now, but I'm waiting a week or two. Can't explain why I'm waiting? I noticed when I was playing around with the TB, my finger kept touching the screen. Its like a natural impulse when I'm so use to doing this with my iPhone.
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Exactly! I use to agree with Apple that I didn't want a touchscreen notebook, I didn't want finger prints, etc. But I have caught myself touching my notebook screen when trying to do some things. After using my iPad and iPhone it just comes naturally. I think a lot of people are doing this, and apple's gimmicky touch bar is just them being stubborn about not adding touch screens. Its funny that they have tried to merge so much of iOS into Mac OS, but thats where they apparently draw the line.
 
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konstantin said:
Has anyone else had the problem that some buttons of the Touch Bar won't appear? When the Touch Bar was inactive and lights up again, only some buttons appear. However, if I press the area where the buttons usually are, they start to reappear.

Any solution for this?

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Same issue here,.. pressing fn quickly solves it for a while, but still very annoying.
 
Starfyre said:
Is Apple really getting at an intuitive interface with the touchbar? Or is it really creating a distraction by avoiding putting in a built in touchscreen?
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For me, it depends on the app. Scrubing through movies on Youtube or in Final Cut works great. The large "Search or enter website" button in Safari is useless. Command-L is much easier. It will be interesting to see what developers come up with.

Overall, I am really happy with my MacBook Pro 13" which replaced a mid 2010 model.
 
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how are people finding the touchbar? going to apple store tomorrow to check it out for first time. Be tempted but would have to pay monthly and not sure you can do that.
 
The Game 161 said:
how are people finding the touchbar? going to apple store tomorrow to check it out for first time. Be tempted but would have to pay monthly and not sure you can do that.
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You have to get used to it. For heavy iPad users is easier to adjust than people that work hours with external keyboards and mouse plugged in their closed laptops with multiple screens.

If you are willing to try, it may improve some of your workflow or just be a nice addition to some apps.
 
JohnnyGo said:
For heavy iPad users is easier to adjust than people that work hours with external keyboards and mouse plugged in their closed laptops with multiple screens.
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This.

I am used to type a lot with my iPad since four years now. I just purchased a mb12 and the keyboard for me is amazing. Basically same as iPad, just... real! In the beginning it was really cumbersome for me to learn to type on the touch screen, now All other keyboards seems so old and slow...
 
JohnnyGo said:
You have to get used to it. For heavy iPad users is easier to adjust than people that work hours with external keyboards and mouse plugged in their closed laptops with multiple screens.

If you are willing to try, it may improve some of your workflow or just be a nice addition to some apps.
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thanks, think i need to do more research how it would help my daily work. i do think it looks great and could be very good going forward.

reason why i'm thinking of the TB and upgrading is my MacBook pro 2016 has become a problem now as i have barely any space on my 128GB storage. i had to delete stuff just to do the new update.

least with this one 256GB makes things far easier storage wise.
 
Jan Utrecht said:
For me, it depends on the app. Scrubing through movies on Youtube or in Final Cut works great. The large "Search or enter website" button in Safari is useless. Command-L is much easier. It will be interesting to see what developers come up with.

Overall, I am really happy with my MacBook Pro 13" which replaced a mid 2010 model.
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The good news is that when something on the TB isn't really useful it will be pretty easy for Apple to change it in future MacOS releases. Keep the good and improve the stuff that needs it.
 
The Touch Bar on my 15" MBP seems locked in this unusual state. All buttons work but it no longer changes with each app nor is it customisable. Haven't rebooted yet. Anyone has an idea why this happens and/or how full functionality can be restored? (besides rebooting the machine..)

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diddl14 said:
The Touch Bar on my 15" MBP seems locked in this unusual state. All buttons work but it no longer changes with each app nor is it customisable. Haven't rebooted yet. Anyone has an idea why this happens and/or how full functionality can be restored? (besides rebooting the machine..)

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Anyone migrate their data to a TB MBPro via thunderbolt? So far it has taken 4 hours to get 2/3 of the way through ~130 GB of data transferring via thunderbolt with my previous Mac in Target Disk mode. The previous Mac is 2013 Retina laptop so it's an SSD to SSD transfer over thunderbolt, and yet the average speed of data migration is 5MB/s
 
photograft said:
Anyone migrate their data to a TB MBPro via thunderbolt? So far it has taken 4 hours to get 2/3 of the way through ~130 GB of data transferring via thunderbolt with my previous Mac in Target Disk mode. The previous Mac is 2013 Retina laptop so it's an SSD to SSD transfer over thunderbolt, and yet the average speed of data migration is 5MB/s
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I have migrated many times, lately USB3.0. Documents and Data are pretty speedy but when it comes to applications it seems to crawl just like the specs you said 5mbs.
 
IngerMan said:
I have migrated many times, lately USB3.0. Documents and Data are pretty speedy but when it comes to applications it seems to crawl just like the specs you said 5mbs.
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I found the solution! My mistake was in putting the old Mac in target disk mode. The recommended method is to leave the old Mac booted up and simply run the migration assistant app. Files are now transferring at 130-140 MB/s
 
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photograft said:
Anyone migrate their data to a TB MBPro via thunderbolt? So far it has taken 4 hours to get 2/3 of the way through ~130 GB of data transferring via thunderbolt with my previous Mac in Target Disk mode. The previous Mac is 2013 Retina laptop so it's an SSD to SSD transfer over thunderbolt, and yet the average speed of data migration is 5MB/s
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I just let it go with Wifi. Over 400 Gb of data moved in under 3 hours. The new and old machine created their own AdHoc network. It was the fatest and easiest migration I've ever done.
 
I just love the Safari touchbar ability to switch tabs easily. Here's when I have found it useful.

Jumping to the search: I have a button to jump to the URL/search bar now in the touchbar. Much easier than hitting a hotkey or moving the mouse to the very top (especially on large screen displays).

Full-screen Safari: I run Safari full-screen always without the Toolbar. When running this way, it's hard to see how many tabs you have open without moving the mouse all the way to the top for the toolbar to show up. With touchbar, I can simply see how many tabs are open and switch accordingly. Saves me time.

Stop/Start media especially videos: Often I listen to music on Youtube (who doesn't?) in the background. And I have always found it hard to play/pause this. With the touchbar this workflow is super simplified, regardless of where I am.

Wishlist....

- I wish there was a button to close the current tab via the touchbar.
- I wish that the safari touchbar controls continues to show up always as long as you are in Safari. Sometimes when I am entering text inside a website, the tab switching disappears (!). I then have to click outside of the text area for the controls to show up again on touchbar. I want muscle memory to take over with Safari controls on the touch bar. This prevents me from doing that.
- I wish there was a button in the touchbar to tab through text inputs on the webpage.

Does anyone else have other uses that they can share that are useful to them?
 
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dashwin said:
I just love the Safari touchbar ability to switch tabs easily.
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cmd + TAB

dashwin said:
Jumping to the search: I have a button to jump to the URL/search bar now in the touchbar. Much easier than hitting a hotkey or moving the mouse to the very top (especially on large screen displays).
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cmd + L

dashwin said:
Full-screen Safari: I run Safari full-screen always without the Toolbar. When running this way, it's hard to see how many tabs you have open without moving the mouse all the way to the top for the toolbar to show up. With touchbar, I can simply see how many tabs are open and switch accordingly. Saves me time.
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you can set safari to display the toolbar at all times

dashwin said:
Wishlist....

- I wish there was a button to close the current tab via the touchbar.
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cmd + W

dashwin said:
Stop/Start media especially videos: Often I listen to music on Youtube (who doesn't?) in the background. And I have always found it hard to play/pause this. With the touchbar this workflow is super simplified, regardless of where I am.

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- I wish that the safari touchbar controls continues to show up always as long as you are in Safari. Sometimes when I am entering text inside a website, the tab switching disappears (!). I then have to click outside of the text area for the controls to show up again on touchbar. I want muscle memory to take over with Safari controls on the touch bar. This prevents me from doing that.
- I wish there was a button in the touchbar to tab through text inputs on the webpage.

Does anyone else have other uses that they can share that are useful to them?
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This sounds useful. Would you mind, if I would copy + paste it into this thread?
 
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Guys, has anyone here moved from the non-TB to the TB?

I am considering returning my non-TB, but I'm worried I'll regret it.

1. Is the battery really thàt bad?
2. Does the TB really disfunction at times?
 
My initial impressions of the touch bar, is cool but not game changing. The commands I use most are the emojis and screenshot button. I occasionally make a new tab, switch tabs, change time in a video, and select my favorites in safari as well. As a brand new user of macOS, the commands are so much more useful and easier to learn 90% of the time, for everything else I use the touch bar. Unlike most I prefer the slider for brightness and volume, I find it much more intuitive than my last computer where I had to hold down the button, which took much longer.
 
spinergy said:
cmd + TAB

cmd + L

you can set safari to display the toolbar at all times

cmd + W

This sounds useful. Would you mind, if I would copy + paste it into this thread?
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It looks like you missed the whole point of the post.

The hotkeys are more cumbersome to use and take multiple keystrokes. For example, to switch through tabs it takes multiple keystrokes to scrub through various tabs, not so with the touchbar.

Similarly Cmd+L requires two hands, whereas the touchbar requires just one to reach for the search location bar.

Also, the point of not showing the Safari toolbar was to save on screen space and not include superfluous information like the address. Do I know I can always show the toolbar? Of course. That's again not the point here.

These may appear like small improvements but when you incorporate the touchbar into your everyday workflows, it starts being more useful than just a gimmick. It does take a while to get used to and it's like learning a new language.
 
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