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Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro

jam86 said:
Hey,



I supplied the part number and the stock keeping unit of the card. Doesn't this identify the card? If not, please explain me why because I would be curious about that.

Here's to OEM ROM.
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Why is the original ROM important? It is the ROM which makes the card run, not the list of numbers found on various stickers. If you want the BEST likelihood of proper card function, you absolutely SHOULD dump the ROM from it.

When there are problems in Wndows/Botcamp it is a sign of one of two things:

1. You are using WRONG ROM....adding EFI to this only means OX will be flawed as well.

2. Card has hardware issues...needs to be RMA'd.

It is that simple. When the card is running in OSX, the EFI only acts as the boot "handshake" that gets you that grey screen after the "boing". After that, the card is running the PC BIOS. How that PC BIOS interacts with Apple's Drivers is next question. The drivers were written for the 4870 with MDP.

But for any EFI 4870/90, the function in Windows should be 100% perfect. We don't re-write a single byte of PC BIOS. So...once again...if your card acts squirrely in Windows with new EFI ROM on it....YOU HAVE USED THE WRONG ROM. With more cards now needing DOS to flash, there is no excuse not to dump original ROM on the card.

Also keep in mind that Cindori can not possibly know all answers to all things 4890. Perhaps if he kept a collection of EVERY 4890 made with EVERY ROM revision then we could expect him to have all of the answers.
 
Leonoid said:
@Fritzflint

Just to be sure I made a rom from your 4890 bin file.
So install dual dvi for 10.6.3. ( Which you did for the 4870 )
Install the latest 10.6.3 drivers for exotic cards install.

Flash card with the rom from this post.
Probably best to remove natit.
Put the card solo in the first slot.
Attach 1 monitor.
And tell me if it worked ;-)
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First thank you for trying to save my ass :)
I did what you told me flashed in atiflash then restarted in my pc and it still worked.
But back in the mac the same same boring....Black screen of Death :eek:?

No boot screen nothing.
Gpu doesn´t show in osx, xp or win 7
100% fan from the second i turn on the power.


It shouln´t be a powerproblem either because my flashed 4870 worked"before the fan died"

And the card still works in my pc? very confusing :confused:

Should your mac model do any diffrence? Like the card can work with mac pro 3.1 and not 4.1?

Greatfull for all ideas and input i could get...
 
The Rominator said:
Why is the original ROM important? It is the ROM which makes the card run, not the list of numbers found on various stickers. If you want the BEST likelihood of proper card function, you absolutely SHOULD dump the ROM from it.

When there are problems in Wndows/Botcamp it is a sign of one of two things:

1. You are using WRONG ROM....adding EFI to this only means OX will be flawed as well.

2. Card has hardware issues...needs to be RMA'd.

It is that simple. When the card is running in OSX, the EFI only acts as the boot "handshake" that gets you that grey screen after the "boing". After that, the card is running the PC BIOS. How that PC BIOS interacts with Apple's Drivers is next question. The drivers were written for the 4870 with MDP.

But for any EFI 4870/90, the function in Windows should be 100% perfect. We don't re-write a single byte of PC BIOS. So...once again...if your card acts squirrely in Windows with new EFI ROM on it....YOU HAVE USED THE WRONG ROM. With more cards now needing DOS to flash, there is no excuse not to dump original ROM on the card.

Also keep in mind that Cindori can not possibly know all answers to all things 4890. Perhaps if he kept a collection of EVERY 4890 made with EVERY ROM revision then we could expect him to have all of the answers.
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Sounds easy when you put it like that, but in my case "see post before" your rule 1 and 2 it ain´t really true..
or?
 
If a previous card broke in your MacPro and now a working card will not run, there might be a problem with your MacPro motherboard or PSU. Or cables.
 
Cindori said:
If a previous card broke in your MacPro and now a working card will not run, there might be a problem with your MacPro motherboard or PSU. Or cables.
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Hmm... it was working with the other card. i dont think the fan broke because of the mac... It was a known fault on this asus model i found out later reading forums.

And it was still working 1-2 minutes before geting to hot at the time i returned it.

If its the cables psu or motherboard who is damaged... wouldn´t i have noticed it with any of my other three cards GeForce gt120/8800gts/ and ati 4870 all of them worked and showed up in osx and windows.

Mysterious :confused:
 
Did I replace my original ROM?

Cindori,

I was wondering if Zeus modifies the ROM at all when I get the incompatibility message. I have been trying to Flash an XFX 4890 ZSFC v1.6 but no luck using your ROMs, I got the double bounce and the error message with all 3. So now I'd like to extract the original ROM and make my own (if not too late) or try the bootcd method if you think that's recommended. Appreciate any help you can offer.

my system:
MacPro1,1
2.66
7300
 
You are getting it because the ZSFC 1.6 is not compatible with Zeus.

Some cards simply have a firmware chip that can not be read by Zeus.

Go bootcd method.
 
4890 Asus

@fritzflint

Your 4890 should be able to work now.
It might be a software problem.
Maybe try a fresh install of 10.6.3.
Use exotic patch for 10.6.3 from Zeus.
Use Dual DVI Fix I send you or the one from Cindori somewhere in this thread.
Rebuild permissions and cache with something like multibeast.
Take out other cards and put it in the first pci slot.
Attach one monitor.

If that fails... try a different pci slot.
If that fails... try same stuff in a friends mac pro...
If that fails...
Give up ;-)
 
Hey Rominator!

Sorry for the super-slow reply, but just this weekend I finally tried to flash that card. It didn't work, but I called my friend who gave me the card, and he said it never really worked right, sooooooi I'm guessing the card was just faulty. I'm going to try some more, but I'll let you know.
 
Second call

Hi every one!

This is my second real post to this thread, the first time I reached out for some advice about my failed(?) flashing of my XFX 4890-card. (Can be found here: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9688797&#post9688797 )

Since then I read a few threads about others comming off as a bit rude when posting, and I have a dodgy sense of humor - so I just thought I should mention that, so I don't seem rude when just trying to be funny (as in my last post, don't know if i was - but it's a precaution on my side :)). I am really humble and grateful about any help I can get. :)

To the point:
I've searched the forum, and net to see how I could get my XFX 4890 ZDDC v1.1 - to run in my Macpro 1,1. For once, I found this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8792996/

And thought I would really get things to work out just fine, by following the golden guide and do as told with everything.

This is in short what I got so far:
1) I did not make an backup of my original rom (you all go: "Duh, you dumb ass..." then I go: "I know, I know! Don't hate on me, I was way to trigger happy about the whole thing...")

2) I get ripples when trying to boot the card in slot 1 as only card (x16 mode, and even bootloader is rippled)

3) When booting in safe mode, using my old 7300 in slot 1 (x16) and the XFX in slot 2 (x1 mode). I get it working on a secondary screen, identified as 4890 in osx, BUT(!) - I get white, vertical lines over my screen. And the mouse pointer is scrambled.

4) When booting in standard mode with 7300 as main card (same pci-e settings as in #3), it boots but it takes "for ever" to get a screen - and no loginscreen. (pretty much the same thing with the ATI only)

5) Wen booting into windows (ati card only), no image at all.

6) When booting into windows with 7300 as main card (same settings as above) - windows id's the card as "standard VGA-card" - but does not activate.

7) latest ATI drivers in windows makes my Mac reboot without even hitting login, as it seems (can't see due to blanc screen).

I used Zeus to flash, used the drivers 1.6.3 with it (several times even), and I seem to have no power issues with my card. The rom I used to flash with was the rom downloaded from Cindori's neat package of roms.

Any advice? :eek:

I reckon I could try to get a hold of an original bios from any other kind user in this forum, and try to set it to an original state and start all over. I'm allmost willing to send the card to some one and pay for it to be fixed, but I'm allso aware that this would be a huuuge failure on my behalf, so I think I'll hold back on that one for a while. :p

Recommendations, any one?


Thanks in advance,
m0squito (Tom)


Oh, btw... I'd like to contribute to the cause if possible. Where do I turn if I have some ideas about contributing?
 
ripples, especially in bootloader, simply points to incompatible rom.

here is another XFX rom you can give a try:

http://groths.se/atiflashingtool/XFX_ZSFL.zip

if no go, you need to find original rom.


I added the donationbutton to first page

(donations very welcome!! supplies me with webhost, ability to buying new cards and test, and a beer(or two) to keep me in good mood :))
 
Great

Thanks Cindori,

I'm away from home for a couple of days, will try the new rom as soon as I am back home again.

Will donate for sure, this is an important cause as I see it. =)

Other whise, I have a few ideas about putting together a Q&A (maybe already suggested?). I guess quite a few of us ask the same questions over and over, not that we're not able to google, but that there nowerdays is quite a few forum posts to read before knowing if there's a solution to "my" problem.

A searcheable DB of roms and sucess stories is ofcourse an utopia since it would violate copy right laws? I guess?

Thanks again for the Rom cindori, will post results later. :)


Cheers,
m0
 
99% sure roms don't violate laws... not that any manufacturer would bother; if I modify one of their roms and upload that means that they will sell at least 10 or so of that card to mac users, win-win. :)


rom database is hard to compile, because after the big rush for 4xxx flashing, new revisions came out, so all of a sudden there was not "a ZWFC model" but "ZWFC Rev 1.0, and a Rev 1.2, and a Rev 2.0" etc etc. And not much documentation of this is done. peloche has a neat little database in his signature.

if we get around flashing 5000 cards or another new generation, i'll definately look into creating a solid database solution right from the start.
 
Cindori said:
99% sure roms don't violate laws... not that any manufacturer would bother; if I modify one of their roms and upload that means that they will sell at least 10 or so of that card to mac users, win-win. :)


rom database is hard to compile, because after the big rush for 4xxx flashing, new revisions came out, so all of a sudden there was not "a ZWFC model" but "ZWFC Rev 1.0, and a Rev 1.2, and a Rev 2.0" etc etc. And not much documentation of this is done. peloche has a neat little database in his signature.

if we get around flashing 5000 cards or another new generation, i'll definately look into creating a solid database solution right from the start.
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Well, is there a way to pull the info from the cards ROM some how? And then perhaps even use an "automatic" way to post both rom and version into a DB wit zeus? Would be neat if success-stories could be posted that way at least. =) Just a thought.


.m0
 
A more desirable feature would be to automize the rom-modifying process and eliminate the need for a rom database. It can be done pretty easily with Python I believe. If someone has skills in python, pm. :)
 
Sorry for my reeeally delayed answer, but no, I did not have to do anything else to get my Vapor-X working.
 
Cindori said:
A more desirable feature would be to automize the rom-modifying process and eliminate the need for a rom database. It can be done pretty easily with Python I believe. If someone has skills in python, pm. :)
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Do you mean that you'd "script" the process to automatically create a rom from the original rom? That WOULD be awsome! :D
 
Hi,

Could you please help modifying my Sapphire Radeon HD4890 Vapor-X 1G GDDR5

PCI-E HDMI/DP/DVI-I/VGA

P/N: 288-1E115-020SA
SKU#: 11150-05-20R
BIOS Version: VER011.022.000.004.033025

Thank you very much for making this possible.
 

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Cindori said:
ripples, especially in bootloader, simply points to incompatible rom.

here is another XFX rom you can give a try:

http://groths.se/atiflashingtool/XFX_ZSFL.zip

if no go, you need to find original rom.


I added the donationbutton to first page

(donations very welcome!! supplies me with webhost, ability to buying new cards and test, and a beer(or two) to keep me in good mood :))
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That did not work either I'm affraid. :( I'm pretty bummed. Screw my card up, did not dump original rom and I basicly threw my money in the bin. Need new card I guess. :(

Thanks for the help anyways.

.m0
 
m0squito said:
That did not work either I'm affraid. :( I'm pretty bummed. Screw my card up, did not dump original rom and I basicly threw my money in the bin. Need new card I guess. :(

Thanks for the help anyways.

.m0
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http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...cturer=XFX&model=HD+4890&interface=&memSize=0

9 @ xfx 4890 roms there.

try them all...if any give good function in Windows...you are on your way.

you could also try posting in forums on that site.

no need to mention mac flashing...just say you were trying to overclock and foolishly forgot to save original BIOS. use phrases like "mobo" and "max fps with Crysis" and you'll blend right in with PC crowd.
 
XFX 4890 v3.1

I just got my v3.1 working after much frustration.

I accidentally flashed the old x1900xt :eek:

I'm good to go now though.

THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE HERE!!!!!

ESPECIALLY CINDORI!!! YOU RULE DUDE!
 
The Rominator said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...cturer=XFX&model=HD+4890&interface=&memSize=0

9 @ xfx 4890 roms there.

try them all...if any give good function in Windows...you are on your way.

you could also try posting in forums on that site.

no need to mention mac flashing...just say you were trying to overclock and foolishly forgot to save original BIOS. use phrases like "mobo" and "max fps with Crysis" and you'll blend right in with PC crowd.
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Exelent idea! =) Thanks for the suggestion, will get back with info about how things went for me. =)
 
Bricked ZSFC?

Wow did I mess up... Hopefully one of you can help...

So I was getting my XFX 4890 ZSFC 1.6 card to work, and I was following all the instructions. The card was almost working right, but in Mac OS X the mouse would jitter and freeze for 1 second every 3-4 seconds. If I didn't move the cursor, everything would be smooth, a video in Quicktime would play without pause. But as soon as I start using the mouse, the whole screen would freeze for a second all the time.

I tried different ROMs, all saif to be for the ZSFC, and I would always get the same result. I decided to try flashing with my backup ROM to see how things worked in windows. Big mistake.

Turns out I messed up the backup process. I used GPU-Z but I had some problem getting it to see the card, and apparently with all the closing and starting the app, I backed up my original card, a Geforce 7300 GT. So when I thought I was flashing to my original ROM, I flashed a Radeon 4890 with a 7300 GT ROM...

Since then, I can't see the card anywhere. Windows and Mac OS X don't see it plugged, and atiflash.exe says it doesn't see an ATI card.

I can't find a way to flash it back to a ATI card, even with the faulty ROM (because of course with all that, I don't even have my backup ROM)... Is there any way I can get something to see the card and flash it? Is it bricked?
 
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