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Ahh! I just got the same little warning window as before!

This is exactly what it says:

SYSTEM EXTENSION CANNOT BE USED

The system extension "/System/Library/Extensions/CNQL1213_ClassicNotSeize.kext" was installed improperly and cannot be used. Please try reinstalling it, or contact the product's vendor for an update."
 
scanner kext. you dont happen to have a hp or canon printer/scanner?
id delete it.
yourbootdrive/System/Library/Extensions

go there and drag it to the trash.


from apple boards:


"I am also getting this error

" System Extension Cannot be Used" ;

The System externsion "/System/Library/Extension/CNQL1213_ClassicNotSeize.kext" was installed improperly and cannot be used. Please try reinstalling it, or contact the product vendor for an update.

But I get it as I install iTunes 9.0

Also iTunes will start but it will quit unexpectedly when used. "


maybe you are having same problem, but instead of iTunes, that kext is crashing natit for you.
 
I do. I actually just recently installed Canon printer drivers to work with one of their Pixma printers. So I should go into Print Center and delete the drivers for the printer then?

scanner kext. you dont happen to have a hp or canon printer/scanner?
id delete it.
yourbootdrive/System/Library/Extensions

go there and drag it to the trash.


from apple boards:


"I am also getting this error

" System Extension Cannot be Used" ;

The System externsion "/System/Library/Extension/CNQL1213_ClassicNotSeize.kext" was installed improperly and cannot be used. Please try reinstalling it, or contact the product vendor for an update.

But I get it as I install iTunes 9.0

Also iTunes will start but it will quit unexpectedly when used. "


maybe you are having same problem, but instead of iTunes, that kext is crashing natit for you.
 
Here's another question for you. Because I am using the Mac Edition of the 4870 currently...if I were to flash the 4890 while the 4870 were in the computer, wouldn't I just get an overclocked 4870 that still works fine?
 
Just nip this in the bud and use the 4890 to boot Windows. Once there use WinFlash to flash the 4890 with the new ROM. You can find it if you show package contents on ATIFacelessFlash.app and dig down into Contents/Resources. Use Google to find a copy of WinFlash.
 
Okay, this sounds like a reasonable solution. Can you be a bit more specific with the steps, though. I'm still a few intelligence points behind you guys where it comes to this stuff - thank you already for your, and Cindori's, patience.

1) So I'll boot into Windows using the 4890.
2) Download Winflash. I'll do a search on Google to locate where to download from.

This is where I'm now a bit confused:
- How do I show the package cntents on ATIFacelessFlash.app? Is the ATIFacelessFlash.app the actual name of the application?
- Where/how do I get the new ROM onto the Windows side of things?

Just nip this in the bud and use the 4890 to boot Windows. Once there use WinFlash to flash the 4890 with the new ROM. You can find it if you show package contents on ATIFacelessFlash.app and dig down into Contents/Resources. Use Google to find a copy of WinFlash.
 
Tired

I've been reading this thread for the past 2 nights and I've yet to see a coherent process of getting a 4890 into a MacPro.

I didn't get the Sapphire 4890 because of reading this thread, nor was I looking to upgrade. Myself, like many others have been through misery with the stock X1900 GPU that came with the MacPro.

I've done all the reading I can stomach from this forum and others, but in all of them, the only thing that looks like a step-by-step process to completing this task was the first post in this thread. Too bad it's so old that it didn't work - aside from conflicting with itself.

The issues I found after many hours and nights reading this thread (as I don't want to miss anything and sound like an impatient knob), I've found that if I kept going on in the hopes that someone felt the topic needed to be addressed, my X1900 would have finally refused to show any pixels on the screen for me to read with. I'm not in a hurry to get to my games, no, I would have bought a PC if that's all I wanted to achieve. I really need to get to my work. So I will ask if anyone has completed the process of installing, injecting, burning, flashing their hardware to a point where it can be used, and therefore shared.

Issues:
- In my reading I've herd you don't need to flash the card, but then I'm supposed to somehow
- Components to install require a certain version of OSX. I have the absolute latest: 10.6.1
- The power cords I have draw from one spot on the main logic board, and the other from the optical bay. Am I asking for trouble?
- In all the instructions I see, nobody has come out to clarify if you need two cards to get one working. If the card you want to flash (if you do) needs to be in the machine, then how do you flash it if the video doesn't work yet? If you have to use another card, somehow it can't be another ATI which is understandable, but what options are there, and why is this process not clear?
- What utilities, tools, programs are needed to install, inject, flash the card to get started.

I realize this is just a forum and nobody HAS to do anything for anyone, but I was just wondering if after 40 pages of conversation did anyone feel they needed to get to the nuts and bolts of it all... unless it's all been forgotten now after so much time.

I have a MacPro quad 2.66 I can't tell you what version it is other then the time I bought the machine (3 years ago) which at the time, the only thing that was higher on the pole was the 3Ghz quad. I'm running 10.6.1 and do not plan to go back to anything older. I do not have 2 monitors, nor do I plan to. So dual is not a concern of mine.

Does anyone want to contribute to this? Can anyone help me solve this mystery before my machine locks up again from an overheating X1900.
 
Drexus if you check the 4890 compatibility thread in this forum you'll see which card to get and where to get the necessary cables. They both plug into the logic board and you need do nothing with the optical bays. You need a second working card to boot off of and run the display so you can flash the 4890. If you have a secondary ATI card then this complicates the process to a small extent and is covered in Cindori's instructions. The instructions found in the first post are still current and in fact do not conflict with itself, if it does it's because you're reading the red text. Cindori went through the trouble of making the process as automated as possible and if you would check your attitude you'll find out how easy it really is. Later today Cindori will be releasing his new and improved flashing utility which should make the whole thing even simpler. Hope that helped.
 
Thanks to Treksdot I've successful got the HIS 4890 working. I'm having a few problems in OS X though!

I keep getting tearing across the screen!!! Also, I tried to watch an episode of Mad Men that I purchased from iTunes and because of the damn DRM is keeps telling me that the screens aren't authorized to play the tv shows!!!!

It's only tearing on my 30 inch monitor, not my 20 inch. The fan is constantly going harder than it should too - although not full blast. When I unplug my 20 inch monitor the tearing stops. The fan is still loud, though.

Can't seem to fix the DRM problem with Mad Men no matter what I do.


Anyone have any suggestions? I tried reflashing the card and I kept getting the same error as before with the ClassicNotSeize.kext file, so I deleted it. Now when I try to flash it tells me: chown: ATIROMFlasher.kext:No such file or directory



EDIT: I'm also getting the ClassicNotSeize.kext file warning when I try to install anything, like the new iTunes update.
 
I've been reading this thread for the past 2 nights and I've yet to see a coherent process of getting a 4890 into a MacPro.

I didn't get the Sapphire 4890 because of reading this thread, nor was I looking to upgrade. Myself, like many others have been through misery with the stock X1900 GPU that came with the MacPro.

I've done all the reading I can stomach from this forum and others.......So I will ask if anyone has completed the process of installing, injecting, burning, flashing their hardware to a point where it can be used, and therefore shared.

I realize this is just a forum and nobody HAS to do anything for anyone, but I was just wondering if after 40 pages of conversation did anyone feel they needed to get to the nuts and bolts of it all... unless it's all been forgotten now after so much time.

I have a MacPro quad 2.66 I can't tell you what version it is other then the time I bought the machine (3 years ago) which at the time, the only thing that was higher on the pole was the 3Ghz quad. I'm running 10.6.1 and do not plan to go back to anything older. I do not have 2 monitors, nor do I plan to. So dual is not a concern of mine.

Does anyone want to contribute to this? Can anyone help me solve this mystery before my machine locks up again from an overheating X1900.

Ultimately, we are battling time and the economies dealt with by GPU sales. When Apple got ahold of a 4870 to write the ROM and Drivers, the card was a Top-of-the-line $400 card. Apple received a "reference design" 512 Meg version which they modded with their beloved MDP. By the time we started flashing them in the spring, PC 4870s were $250 cards. As the market changes for the cards and the prices drop, so do the number and quality of components. ATI makes the GPU chip itself and hands the various "Board Partners" a "reference design" for the card. As time goes by, each company finds ways to cut costs..typically by reducing the overall components and sometimes eliminating portions of circuits.

So, the ROM and Drivers were written for a 4870 512 Meg card built on the reference design. As time has gone on, there have been literally DOZENS of versions of the 4870/90. We have even found that manufacturers will alter their cards without changing the part number.

We do our best to keep track of which ROM works on which card.

PC 4870/90 IN MAC PRO OVERVIEW

1. Big plus on these cards...ALL OF THE PC CARDS HAVE ROM CHIPS BIG ENOUGH..........ALWAYS. CAN ALL HOLD THE MAC EFI ROM.

2. There are packages that allow using the cards without flashing. You need the specific one for your operating system. You will need to get an update from Netkas.org before any OS updates. The 2nd BIG minus with injectors is that you won't see anything on screen until the desktop loads. When trying to diagnose HD issues, not being able to hold "option" at boot and choose a startup disk can add much bother.

3. Flashing either a 4870 or 4890 gives you the BIG plus of the boot screen. In addition, flashing a 4870 ENDS all of your bother. It will just continue working as long as Apple keeps supporting their 4870. No fussy updates of kext, no reinstalling injectors, no further bothers at all. Once the card is working, you are done thinking about it.

4. Flashing a 4890 will ALWAYS get you the boot screen, but with each OS update you will need an updated kext to maintain 3D acceleration.

5. At this point, all of the easy 4870 cards are out of production. If you can accept purchasing one used, the early 4870/512 cards built on "reference design" are the safest bet. (full size red fan, on large red PCB...says "AMD" on slot connector). You flash these with the original Mac 4870 ROM....you get Dual DVI in Leopard or Snow Leopard, boot screen, Dual Link DVI on lower, Single Link DVI on Upper.

6. If you want a specific card to work, you need to find a post where someone has done it before. There are many places where a specific card is posted with a specific ROM that was written for it. Sadly, most variations of these cards need their own ROM, beyond the reference cards.

The cards available new from Newegg today are most likely NOT reference design anymore. Most will need their OWN special ROM, while using the injectors will yield better odds.(with their own limitations, as noted before)

7. Forums ARE a conversation. We are just hopeful that people will post their results so that we can all learn from them. Your frustration has more to do with the fact that these cards have changed so much to be able to sell the "same" card for $150 today that was originally designed to sell for $400.

Want a sure thing? Buy Gold. Or an original production run 4870 from Saphire in the 512 Meg size and the original large fan with 4 wires.

Cindori has recently become the flag bearer on 4870/90 front. He will shortly be releasing an OSX flashing app that will make your lives easier. Pipomolo42 was kind enough to teach us how to sew the ROMs together. Netkas has spent hours putting the injectors together. I've used Pipomolo42s methods and a refinement by rihldinger to write a few ROMs for people. None of us are on payroll here.
 
Ultimately, we are battling time and the economies dealt with by GPU sales. When Apple got ahold of a 4870 to write the ROM and Drivers, the card was a Top-of-the-line $400 card. Apple received a "reference design" 512 Meg version which they modded with their beloved MDP. By the time we started flashing them in the spring, PC 4870s were $250 cards. As the market changes for the cards and the prices drop, so do the number and quality of components. ATI makes the GPU chip itself and hands the various "Board Partners" a "reference design" for the card. As time goes by, each company finds ways to cut costs..typically by reducing the overall components and sometimes eliminating portions of circuits.

So, the ROM and Drivers were written for a 4870 512 Meg card built on the reference design. As time has gone on, there have been literally DOZENS of versions of the 4870/90. We have even found that manufacturers will alter their cards without changing the part number.

We do our best to keep track of which ROM works on which card.

PC 4870/90 IN MAC PRO OVERVIEW

1. Big plus on these cards...ALL OF THE PC CARDS HAVE ROM CHIPS BIG ENOUGH..........ALWAYS. CAN ALL HOLD THE MAC EFI ROM.

2. There are packages that allow using the cards without flashing. You need the specific one for your operating system. You will need to get an update from Netkas.org before any OS updates. The 2nd BIG minus with injectors is that you won't see anything on screen until the desktop loads. When trying to diagnose HD issues, not being able to hold "option" at boot and choose a startup disk can add much bother.

3. Flashing either a 4870 or 4890 gives you the BIG plus of the boot screen. In addition, flashing a 4870 ENDS all of your bother. It will just continue working as long as Apple keeps supporting their 4870. No fussy updates of kext, no reinstalling injectors, no further bothers at all. Once the card is working, you are done thinking about it.

4. Flashing a 4890 will ALWAYS get you the boot screen, but with each OS update you will need an updated kext to maintain 3D acceleration.

5. At this point, all of the easy 4870 cards are out of production. If you can accept purchasing one used, the early 4870/512 cards built on "reference design" are the safest bet. (full size red fan, on large red PCB...says "AMD" on slot connector). You flash these with the original Mac 4870 ROM....you get Dual DVI in Leopard or Snow Leopard, boot screen, Dual Link DVI on lower, Single Link DVI on Upper.

6. If you want a specific card to work, you need to find a post where someone has done it before. There are many places where a specific card is posted with a specific ROM that was written for it. Sadly, most variations of these cards need their own ROM, beyond the reference cards.

The cards available new from Newegg today are most likely NOT reference design anymore. Most will need their OWN special ROM, while using the injectors will yield better odds.(with their own limitations, as noted before)

7. Forums ARE a conversation. We are just hopeful that people will post their results so that we can all learn from them. Your frustration has more to do with the fact that these cards have changed so much to be able to sell the "same" card for $150 today that was originally designed to sell for $400.

Want a sure thing? Buy Gold. Or an original production run 4870 from Saphire in the 512 Meg size and the original large fan with 4 wires.

Cindori has recently become the flag bearer on 4870/90 front. He will shortly be releasing an OSX flashing app that will make your lives easier. Pipomolo42 was kind enough to teach us how to sew the ROMs together. Netkas has spent hours putting the injectors together. I've used Pipomolo42s methods and a refinement by rihldinger to write a few ROMs for people. None of us are on payroll here.

enough said :D I've ordered a sapphire HD 4890, and by the time i get it i guess cindori will have released his new tool. Let's hope its a success... *crosses fingers*
 
Anyone have any suggestions? I tried reflashing the card and I kept getting the same error as before with the ClassicNotSeize.kext file, so I deleted it. Now when I try to flash it tells me: chown: ATIROMFlasher.kext:No such file or directory

EDIT: I'm also getting the ClassicNotSeize.kext file warning when I try to install anything, like the new iTunes update.

only one of the ports are dual link dvi, make sure you have your 30 on that port.

ClassicNotSeize is a printer / scanner kext causing errors for people, nothing to do with flash. Google on it,

replace atiromflasher.kext on the boot drive.
 
Cindori has recently become the flag bearer on 4870/90 front. He will shortly be releasing an OSX flashing app that will make your lives easier. Pipomolo42 was kind enough to teach us how to sew the ROMs together. Netkas has spent hours putting the injectors together. I've used Pipomolo42s methods and a refinement by rihldinger to write a few ROMs for people. None of us are on payroll here.


I must thank you again guys for your awesome work and help you provide!
My Sapphire 4890 New Edition works like a charm with injectors.
Hope to see some ROM soon, i know you are working on it. :D

Cheers!

MF
 
I must thank you again guys for your awesome work and help you provide!
My Sapphire 4890 New Edition works like a charm with injectors.
Hope to see some ROM soon, i know you are working on it. :D

Cheers!

MF

But i thought this whole thread is about flashing your card so it doesn't need an injector to work... have you tried it yet? Or just using netkas injector? Im very curious to know if it worked for you
 
But i thought this whole thread is about flashing your card so it doesn't need an injector to work... have you tried it yet? Or just using netkas injector? Im very curious to know if it worked for you


No mate, i’m still on injector which works great btw.
I’m just lucky that Peloche have the very same card
as i do, so i think i’ll get my rom soon. :)

If not, it is still good though.
 
It's installed in the right DVI port - I don't even get full resolution if it's on the wrong one.

I deleted the printer kext.

I've flash twice now using your application (easy to use), once with the normal clock ROM and once with the overclock ROM.

I'm still getting tearing on my 30 inch.

only one of the ports are dual link dvi, make sure you have your 30 on that port.

ClassicNotSeize is a printer / scanner kext causing errors for people, nothing to do with flash. Google on it,

replace atiromflasher.kext on the boot drive.
 
quoting The Rominator from comment on netkas.org:


"Flashed 4890 MSI working great with latest update in 10.6.1.

DUal Display works…with one small caveat. There is a very mild instance of screen tearing. If you move mouse vertically over and over you will see that 1 out of 5 or 6 passes will have a place where screen rears horizontally at point where mouse intersects.

Oddly, this was much worse before I updated the package.

If I run with just the 30″ connected the behavior is flawless. COD4 ran fine. It only does the quick little tears when it is running both displays at once."


check with him if he ever solved the problem
 
I sent him a PM.

My problem sounds much worse than his. I'm getting tearing frequently with no mouse movement.
 
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