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Universal and Native Apple Silicon Apps
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Yes it (uBlock Origin) does crash every time. Too badWaiting for a fix!!!
uBlock Origin works 100% fine in Chrome ARM in the meantime.
Also just as a general note, the Chromium engine is more secure than Firefox's Gecko engine.
I've personally always found Firefox slower than Chrome and Safari on both Intel and ARM.
Not sure if you saw my ninja edit but the Gecko engine used by Firefox is less secure than the Chromium engine in case that swings you any. If you are mistrusting of Google (perfectly understandably) there's many open source Chromium based browsers including some that have privacy features built right in, the most popular ones being Brave and Vivaldi.
At the moment I'm using Chrome just because Brave and Vivaldi don't have ARM builds yet.
Got any sources for that? Browser security is less determined by rendering engine and more by Javascript engine, sandboxing, and privacy controls. None of which are dependent on the rendering engine.
That said, I'd argue that, at least on privacy, Chrome is the worst browser. You're better off with Brave, Vivaldi, Edge, or just Chromium if you want the Blink engine.
I'm prefer Firefox and have been running the Nightly version on my air without issues. I haven't noticed it to be appreciably slower than Safari except for when launched where it takes an extra bounce or two.
Yeah, I haven't had any issues. I've got a number of extensions and customized stylesheet too, so if anyone were to crash, it would be me. Not sure what is causing yours to crash. Is it happening when trying to install the add-on or when launching the browser?
Firefox has terrible sandboxing and this is largely what makes it so far behind in security.
The following is written by security expert Daniel Micay who is the developer behind GrapheneOS, a hardened version of Android that provides Google with many of the upstream security enhancements that eventually land in AOSP:
Source: https://grapheneos.org/usage (command+f "firefox")
Most of that is focused on the mobile implantation but I've bolded towards the end where the desktop version is specifically mentioned.
It all paints a pretty bad picture of Firefox security when they're so sloppy they don't even implement sandboxing APIs provided by the OS.
The fact it's especially bad on Linux also leads me to wonder if it's equally as bad on macOS given they're both Unix systems. I'm sure they share at least some code. But I've not done enough digging to make any definitive statements on that.
Either way I would definitely go for a Chromium based browser over Firefox myself. I agree entirely Chrome is the worst for privacy. That's why I mentioned Brave and Vivaldi. Awaiting ARM builds for those.
Ladies & gentlemen - this is the wiki thread for Universal & Apple Silicon apps. ?
I asked the Brave developers (on the Brave community) when they are planning an ARM build. Crickets. I also don't see it listed on their planned features list. I hope they will get to it soon.
Apologies, will stay on topic
This is a shame. I hope it's something they're looking at internally. Given Chrome has already got an ARM build it cannot exactly be difficult to port over the ARM Chromium engine and recompile for ARM. It should be something they can at the very least put out in beta form pretty quickly to be honest.
That's what is great about choice. Brave (or whatever you usually prefer) is a good browser. I'm just so used to Firefox at this point and have customized it a lot that switching always feels weird.
Robbie, you're right, back on topic. Considering Chrome (and therefore Chromium) are ARM ready, I think it's only a matter of time before the other browsers based on it follow. I know Microsoft already committed an Edge build soon.
Just doing some quick google-fu, it looks like Brave has no ARM support at all for any desktop platform. Not for Windows or Linux.
Vivaldi already has ARM builds for Linux since 2017 so my money would be on Vivaldi being the first to come out with a native Apple Silicon build.
Which is just fine by me, Vivaldi is imo a better user experience. Still has built-in ad and tracker blocking and provides a non-Google Chromium browser but it also doesn't try to push a cryptocurrency based ad platform on you. Brave also has crypto ads on the default new tab page.
Vivaldi already has ARM builds for Linux since 2017 so my money would be on Vivaldi being the first to come out with a native Apple Silicon build.
Which is just fine by me, Vivaldi is imo a better user experience. Still has built-in ad and tracker blocking and provides a non-Google Chromium browser but it also doesn't try to push a cryptocurrency based ad platform on you. Brave also has crypto ads on the default new tab page.
Are you getting any errors?
it ran perfectly fine for me with Rosetta. However, I have installed the beta which makes the OneNote and other apps run natively in M1. You wouldn’t be able to tell the difference though!
Yeah I get an error log, but it’s almost as if the app is still trying to run in intel mode (meaning rosetta translation failed).
Tried to remove and reinstall the app but same result. Now I’m not by the computer but tomorrow I’ll try to purge all associated files and reinstall it.
If I recall correctly, Rosetta 2 periodically recompiles apps. Have you tried attempting to trigger this with a reboot?
Or you can have a go at the native beta, if the alternative is something that doesn't work at all it'll surely be more stable
May be it’s time to start a new thread on your topic so we can keep this thread to the topic
If I recall correctly, Rosetta 2 periodically recompiles apps. Have you tried attempting to trigger this with a reboot?
Or you can have a go at the native beta, if the alternative is something that doesn't work at all it'll surely be more stable
I've been using the beta of the office apps and they've all been super stable. Admittedly, I don't use OneNote very much, but Word and Excel (even with some crazy spreadsheets) have been solid.
Regarding the browsers, Vivaldi's Twitter confirms they are working on an Apple Silicon build:
Thanks. I just downloaded Vivaldi. Ugh. Really don't like the UI. Hopefully Brave gets on the ball soon!