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coolsean20

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Yes but there's a source now. A source!

I've been noticing the detailed buildings in Providence, RI as well. And just as you describe, it's only in the middle, really. As soon as you move towards the fringe, it goes away.
I have the same detailed buildings in Portland, OR. Once you move away from downtown, they go away and everything is bleh.
 

gwhizkids

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Exactly. It does differentiate between an "incident" and "construction" and "traffic"...those are the only three I think I've heard.

Yesterday for me, it was, "There is construction x miles ahead. You are still on the fastest route."

I have this damn 512GB phone. I may just start screen recording every drive in case there is something new.
LOL! I always wondered what people would do with all that space! I had a 256gb, never used more than 50gb, so I cut back to 64. Saved myself a lot of $$$
 
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G1Ravage

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That's cool. When it said you were still on the fastest route, was that audibly, or visibly, or both? I tend to have the voice off, so maybe I'm missing these things.

I don't think I've ever heard Apple Maps tell me I'm on the fastest route.

It was audible, with a little pop up message on the lower-left of the screen, with the "timer bar". You can hit "OK" to send it away, or it will go away on its own after the timer bar elapses. I think the box said "Hazard on 12th Ave".

I sometimes get construction alerts, such as: "Construction on road ahead. The right lane is closed. You are still on the fastest route", accompanied by a zoom out of the map to show the construction area."

However, every time I've gotten one of these construction alerts, all lanes were open when I passed through the area.
 

MozMan68

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However, every time I've gotten one of these construction alerts, all lanes were open when I passed through the area.

That shouldn’t be a surprise though. Construction zone doesn’t necessarily mean lanes are closed or traffic will even slow down.

I think most of that info comes from government agencies including lane closures or ramp closures.
 

G1Ravage

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Just a random photo driving through the Bronx, in an area that I believe is on the edge of having the increased detail.

Note that the "second turn" gray box is missing a turn symbol. When the second turn involves a roundabout or traffic circle, the symbol doesn't appear until it's the next turn.
 
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gwhizkids

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Just a random photo driving through the Bronx, in an area that I believe is on the edge of having the increased detail.

Note that the "second turn" gray box is missing a turn symbol. When the second turn involves a roundabout or traffic circle, the symbol doesn't appear until it's the next turn.

Hmmm...that’s near another White Castle. I’m sensing a pattern here!
 

G1Ravage

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Maybe I'm going crazy, but I think there have been some miniscule improvements recently. The map just looks...slightly better somehow. And it seems the 3D buildings are sticking around longer when zooming out (or appearing earlier when zooming in).

Still no official updates, though.
 

MozMan68

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Maybe I'm going crazy, but I think there have been some miniscule improvements recently. The map just looks...slightly better somehow. And it seems the 3D buildings are sticking around longer when zooming out (or appearing earlier when zooming in).

Still no official updates, though.

I think that as well...the map just doesn’t seem as “plain” as it did before. Particularly in areas outside of metro areas.
 

gwhizkids

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I think that as well...the map just doesn’t seem as “plain” as it did before. Particularly in areas outside of metro areas.
No doubt about it. I live in an exurban part of Connecticut about 55 miles NE of NYC. Lots of trees and farmland. Maps is definitely showing a more precise delineation of forested areas than it did before, even down to the property level. Anxiously awaiting the re-alignment of my "street" from my neighbor's driveway though. That's when I know it'll be the full next level (and if they mess that up, they have no excuses, because my daughter saw the Apple mapping vehicle driving by the house last year....)
 
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G1Ravage

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Took a drive today on Apple CarPlay. Buildings are now always visible on local roads, even on the initial approach to a turn (0.3 miles away).

On highways, Maps zooms out to a level where buildings aren't visible. But as you approach an exit, buildings now appear when 0.8 miles away, which is much farther away than it used to be. It's pretty neat, seeing all the tiny buildings. I'm also noticing Maps being a bit more...interesting...with the directions during high traffic times.

God, I wish the official detail update would come out already!!
 

gwhizkids

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Took a drive today on Apple CarPlay. Buildings are now always visible on local roads, even on the initial approach to a turn (0.3 miles away).

On highways, Maps zooms out to a level where buildings aren't visible. But as you approach an exit, buildings now appear when 0.8 miles away, which is much farther away than it used to be. It's pretty neat, seeing all the tiny buildings. I'm also noticing Maps being a bit more...interesting...with the directions during high traffic times.

God, I wish the official detail update would come out already!!
On my trip home from Boston yesterday (which I do weekly), I noticed that in overview mode on CarPlay, much more detail is viewable, particularly for secondary roads. The entire road network (primary trunk lines, secondary roads and even some neighborhood roads) are visible, even at a zoomed out level (approx 1"=5 miles). Nice improvement! Next week, I'll drive into Boston proper to see if the same detail is available there as NYC.
 

MozMan68

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On my trip home from Boston yesterday (which I do weekly), I noticed that in overview mode on CarPlay, much more detail is viewable, particularly for secondary roads. The entire road network (primary trunk lines, secondary roads and even some neighborhood roads) are visible, even at a zoomed out level (approx 1"=5 miles). Nice improvement! Next week, I'll drive into Boston proper to see if the same detail is available there as NYC.

That's the main change I have noticed as well, even on the mobile version. As you zoom in and out, it looks more and more like old paper maps with much more road representation and terrain detail.
 
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G1Ravage

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There's a...I don't know if I'd call it a glitch, but...it's an oddity.

Typically when driving on local roads, with the camera positioned in the "behind you", birds-eye view, the camera is typically behind you and slightly to the left, like a 3/4 view. But if you select the the "Overview" view, which zooms out to show you the entire route, and then select "Detail" to zoom back in to the previous view, the camera will now be positioned directly behind the vehicle position on the map, so you're looking straight ahead. It's really weird, and it feels like one of these is wrong.

Also, when driving on local roads, typically the camera position lets you see the horizon. But on certain local roads, the camera is pointed more down, and you can't see the horizon. I've been trying to figure out what types of local roads this occurs on, and so far it seems this occurs on local roads that have a State Route or County Road designation. It's not 100% consistent, however.
 

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It does not say much in that article, apart from this:

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The Maps overhaul in iOS 13 (UI, etc.) was rumoured just before the release of iOS 12. Apple also said they will be rolling the new (more detailed) maps across the US over 2019, so all going well the whole of the US might get updated by the end of the year. I just hope that folks outside the US, like me, will not have to wait for the US rollout to complete to be able to sample all that new mapping goodness. ;)
 

MozMan68

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It does not say much in that article, apart from this:

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The Maps overhaul in iOS 13 (UI, etc.) was rumoured just before the release of iOS 12. Apple also said they will be rolling the new (more detailed) maps across the US over 2019, so all going well the whole of the US might get updated by the end of the year. I just hope that folks outside the US, like me, will not have to wait for the US rollout to complete to be able to sample all that new mapping goodness. ;)

Technically, they said it would roll out “over the next year” which I think most of us means September 2018 to September 2019.

Hoping they stay on schedule and finish the Maps rollout by the time iOS 13 is launched. Seems completely possible.
 

G1Ravage

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Yeah, the whole selecting a recent place to navigate to is really bad currently. It typically works well with knowing what time I go to work and go home, and will display one of those locations on top. But not always. Any time you tap on a point of interest on the map, it transfers over into navigable places, even though you've never actually navigated there. I find myself removing them, especially since Apple doesn't allow more than a couple of places to show up on the list.

In fact, this seems to be a problem across the spectrum of navigation maps that have to conform to Apple's rules to be useable on Apple CarPlay. Very small lists. If I open Waze on my phone, and go to my list of recent destinations, it'll show me maybe 20 or 30 places. But on Apple CarPlay, it won't show me more than five or six.

I used Google Maps on Apple CarPlay this morning to search for a BP gas station, and it only gave me the five closest ones, all of which were in New Jersey. (I was in Manhattan at the time, intending to return to Queens.)
 

MozMan68

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I used Google Maps on Apple CarPlay this morning to search for a BP gas station, and it only gave me the five closest ones, all of which were in New Jersey. (I was in Manhattan at the time, intending to return to Queens.)

But probably because everyone typically heads to NJ to fill up on cheap gas at full service station.

Google knows this...they are watching you...


...and no notable expansion of Maps on my phone with the latest public beta that just pushed through. But I never seem to get them first anyway.
 
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gwhizkids

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But probably because everyone typically heads to NJ to fill up on cheap gas at full service station.

Google knows this...they are watching you...


...and no notable expansion of Maps on my phone with the latest public beta that just pushed through. But I never seem to get them first anyway.
Ah, those days of cheap NJ fuel are over. They hiked the sales tax about 18 months ago.

As I was driving to Boston today, I was watching as new tiles appeared on the map. First they would be the old "boring" tiles. But after a few moments, all the detail came in. I was also seeing many more roads, even in regular nav (as opposed to Overview) mode. It will be interesting to see if on my way home, the more detailed tiles appear immediately, or if that's just the way they appear now - base layer then detail, rather than all at once.

Good stuff, regardless. I expect big announcements at WWDC in 4 weeks.
 

G1Ravage

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If you see the map load sometimes, more noticeable if you have a poor signal, the map is made up of tiles that load to make the full map. I presume this is what he is referring to.

Oh, okay. The only time I ever see those is when initially loading Apple Maps inside my garage, where the signal is weak. Or on the phone itself, when initially switching over to the 3D satellite view. (Which is neat, because you can also see elevation changes on those tiles.)
 
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