All Devices Updated Apple Maps

[MozMan68]

It stands to reason that with Apple’s biggest software introduction (and only software development event) of the year, they’re not going to “waste” a big Apple Maps update for a point release.

If it’s going to happen, it will happen on June 3rd.

I was referring more to an incremental Maps expansion...I wouldn't be surprised if they went either way, honestly.

* Keep incremental updates coming with no announcement
* Announce that the Maps changes are coming and then release more updates at the same time (including the new features discussed on the main page)

I'm more interested in the detailed Maps expansion than the other changes coming in iOS13.

 

[gwhizkids]

I was referring more to an incremental Maps expansion...I wouldn't be surprised if they went either way, honestly.

* Keep incremental updates coming with no announcement
* Announce that the Maps changes are coming and then release more updates at the same time (including the new features discussed on the main page)

I'm more interested in the detailed Maps expansion than the other changes coming in iOS13.

This is a big deal for Apple and its services business (and, potentialy, A/R), so I think it will merit some stage-time at WWDC. But I'm with you: a frustrating thing about how Apple updates its own services for the most part is tied to the OS release (whether major or point releases). It would be nice if they would do this via the app update model that regular developers use (and that they use for Shortcuts).

 

[G1Ravage]

I read the first iOS 12.4 beta is out. I don't do beta testing, so let us know if you see anything new and interesting.

 

[MozMan68]

I read the first iOS 12.4 beta is out. I don't do beta testing, so let us know if you see anything new and interesting.

I’m only on the public beta...not out yet. Only developer data. Anyone else?

 

[gwhizkids]

I’m only on the public beta...not out yet. Only developer data. Anyone else?

Im not seeing any differences on the developer beta in terms of building texture in Boston in 3D mode. Have not had opportunity to view nav maps yet.

 

[MozMan68]

Im not seeing any differences on the developer beta in terms of building texture in Boston in 3D mode. Have not had opportunity to view nav maps yet.

Yeah...not expecting any Maps updates (map areas or features) until WWDC. And then, I would expect that they will announce the new features as well as data updates to NYC area as well as others maybe. Remaining US areas launched over the following 90 days in time for iOS13 launch in mid-September.

That's my prediction...stated on this day, May 16, 2019.

 

[MozMan68]

Just checked...no visible updates after 12.4 release....but, and I can't find out whether it was discussed here or on Reddit, but someone mentioned a missing name for a lake in Canada. It was indeed very sparse from an information standpoint on Maps versus Google.

I must of marked the spot on Maps when I was looking at it as I noticed the pin when I was checking for updates. Zoomed in and the lake is now marked correctly in Maps. Somebody's doing something...
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Here's a screenshot from the Mac (showed the same way on the phone). Forgive my horrible drawing. The yellow line is the road (really it's a driveway to parking lot) that you have to take to get there. The red squiggle is the ravine/woods. As you can see in the screenshot there are no roads whatsoever showing on the map around the location, even though they do exist. I guess if Maps doesn't know about the roads, it can't get me there, but this was disappointing.
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Just checked this and the POI looks to be removed! I'm guessing that means it is in the middle of the correction process??

 

[SalisburySam]

This is a big deal for Apple and its services business (and, potentialy, A/R)

A/R = Accounts Receivable for most of us?

 

[jmontana]

Just checked...no visible updates after 12.4 release....but, and I can't find out whether it was discussed here or on Reddit, but someone mentioned a missing name for a lake in Canada. It was indeed very sparse from an information standpoint on Maps versus Google.

I must of marked the spot on Maps when I was looking at it as I noticed the pin when I was checking for updates. Zoomed in and the lake is now marked correctly in Maps. Somebody's doing something...
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Just checked this and the POI looks to be removed! I'm guessing that means it is in the middle of the correction process??

Well that's weird! Or maybe they figured if they remove it, they don't have to worry about directions ...

 

[one more]

Zoomed in and the lake is now marked correctly in Maps. Somebody's doing something...

Yep, it might be simply you zooming in. Seriously, though, the names and more zone detail tend to appear/disappear depending on the zoom level.

Apple are tweaking their maps, no doubt, just at a remarkably snail pace.

 

[gwhizkids]

A/R = Accounts Receivable for most of us?

And in this context "Augmented Reality".

 

[MozMan68]

Yep, it might be simply you zooming in. Seriously, though, the names and more zone detail tend to appear/disappear depending on the zoom level.

Apple are tweaking their maps, no doubt, just at a remarkably snail pace.

It wasn’t marked at all previously. Zooming in or out did nothing.

 

[G1Ravage]

I'm baaaaaaack. Spent a week in Vegas with the new Apple Maps. They did not disappoint.

I rented a 2019 BMW X5. Fortunately, as it was fairly new, it still had CarPlay active. But it took me forever to figure out how to get it to work. It mainly works wirelessly, but the connection would sometimes fail upon starting the car, and it was overall a bit of a pain to work with. That's a BMW issue, though. In my Genesis, it only works via USB connection, so it's just connect and go.

One thing I did like, however, was the super wide screen on the BMW, which permitted for widescreen CarPlay, which looked great.

Interestingly, since this was wireless CarPlay, there was an additional symbol on the left bar showing your battery life, which I don't have in my car. Also, CarPlay is much more integrated with the BMW infotainment system, which is both nice, and annoying. From the navigation or phone menus on the BMW, you can choose to perform those actions via CarPlay, which then opens CarPlay and takes you automatically to that Apple function (defaulting navi to Apple Maps, of course.) Vice-versa, if searching for a navigable route in Apple Maps, there's a selection to send the destination info to the BMW in-dash navi instead. Annoyingly, this also means that pressing the microphone button on the steering wheel while within CarPlay does NOT bring up Siri. It brings up the BMW assistant. If I want to quickly send a text message to someone, I would have to select and hold the home button on CarPlay.

 

[G1Ravage]

And here are some more photos showing just how beautiful everything looks. The building detail is incredible.

 

[nicho]

Annoyingly, this also means that pressing the microphone button on the steering wheel while within CarPlay does NOT bring up Siri. It brings up the BMW assistant. If I want to quickly send a text message to someone, I would have to select and hold the home button on CarPlay.

if you use "hey siri" does it mirror anything to the in car display?

 

[G1Ravage]

if you use "hey siri" does it mirror anything to the in car display?

Unsure. I'm back home now.

 

[nicho]

Unsure. I'm back home now.

Ah well.

For next time -

"BMW's voice assistant works quite well, and both BMW's assistant and Siri are invoked using the same button on the steering wheel – a quick press activates the BMW assistant, while holding the button brings up Siri."
From https://www.macrumors.com/review/bmw-wireless-carplay/

 

[gwhizkids]

Ah well.

For next time -

"BMW's voice assistant works quite well, and both BMW's assistant and Siri are invoked using the same button on the steering wheel – a quick press activates the BMW assistant, while holding the button brings up Siri."
From https://www.macrumors.com/review/bmw-wireless-carplay/

This is the same way GM’s voice activation system works as well.

 

[MozMan68]

Are we taking any bets yet as to what, if anything, changes with Maps next week when the first iOS13 beta is released?

 

[gwhizkids]

Are we taking any bets yet as to what, if anything, changes with Maps next week when the first iOS13 beta is released?

I’ll take the over on significant changes to the base layer at some point during the iOS 13 beta process (ie, between 6/3 and mid-September).

 

[G1Ravage]

I’ll take the over on significant changes to the base layer at some point during the iOS 13 beta process (ie, between 6/3 and mid-September).

I'd say that's a safe wager.

I think I noticed some *very* minor changes to how previous destinations are displayed within Apple CarPlay. Mainly size and font related. Routes are also a bit better. If I suddenly turn off route, or ignore a turn, Apple Maps is less likely to try and "force" me back onto the exact route I was driving. It'll recalculate to follow the new road I'm on. This is helpful when there's a road closure ahead that Apple Maps is unaware of.

 

[one more]

Considering that Apple Maps is a work in progress, should this thread be renamed from “New Apple Maps” to “Apple Maps” and moved over to iOS 13 section, so it will be easier to find? I guess starting from this week onwards all iOS 12 threads will go much quieter, with all the action focusing around iOS 13? What do you think? There is a lot of interesting info in here which would be a pity to lose.

 

[MozMan68]

Considering that Apple Maps is a work in progress, should this thread be renamed from “New Apple Maps” to “Apple Maps” and moved over to iOS 13 section, so it will be easier to find? I guess starting from this week onwards all iOS 12 threads will go much quieter, with all the action focusing around iOS 13? What do you think? There is a lot of interesting info in here which would be a pity to lose.

And it should be made a sticky...I think a consistent thread with over 50,000 views deserves that.

Mods??

...and if not done, I’ll start a new Wiki thread later in the iOS13 forum...they could merge them as well at any time.

 

[gwhizkids]

Considering that Apple Maps is a work in progress, should this thread be renamed from “New Apple Maps” to “Apple Maps” and moved over to iOS 13 section, so it will be easier to find? I guess starting from this week onwards all iOS 12 threads will go much quieter, with all the action focusing around iOS 13? What do you think? There is a lot of interesting info in here which would be a pity to lose.

And it should be made a sticky...I think a consistent thread with over 50,000 views deserves that.

Mods??

...and if not done, I’ll start a new Wiki thread later in the iOS13 forum...they could merge them as well at any time.

Agree on all counts. This discussion transcends the iOS version.

 

[MozMan68]

“Lookaround”???

Okay...