All Devices Updated Apple Maps

[MozMan68]

So, what do you do? Just hold the phone up while using Maps in Walking nav mode? Any visual indicator that its doing something?

I did do that, but like I said, I'm not sure the GPS was really blocked enough for it to HAVE to help.

I remember seeing Google's version of it on video and the phone can recognize intersections, building locations....just helping to determine your actual location better on the map when GPS isn't enough. But yeah, my phone, if out, is pointed at my feet...hah.

 

[iOS Geek]

They could potentially knock out the Southeast, then hit the Pacific Northwest, and finish up the middle of the country in December... or hit the Southeast and Pacific Northwest at the same time, then finish up the rest in December.

I could see that! I think I mentioned it multiple pages ago, but the state I'm actually really interested in (almost as much as my own)...is Alaska. I travel there occasionally and am interested to see how that turns out. They had it on their website as being completed over the summer. But with so much of Alaska being so isolated from major road networks, I'm curious to see what they were able to do. Anchorage, Fairbanks, and a lot of space between the two should be easy since that's all connected by road. But I'm really looking forward to see what they got with everything outside of those areas.

 

[Alan Gordon]

I could see that! I think I mentioned it multiple pages ago, but the state I'm actually really interested in (almost as much as my own)...is Alaska. I travel there occasionally and am interested to see how that turns out. They had it on their website as being completed over the summer. But with so much of Alaska being so isolated from major road networks, I'm curious to see what they were able to do. Anchorage, Fairbanks, and a lot of space between the two should be easy since that's all connected by road. But I'm really looking forward to see what they got with everything outside of those areas.

I forgot about Alaska when typing that to be honest, which is kind of ironic considering a co-worker of mine is on an Alaskan cruise right now (HA!). I figure it'll probably be updated either around the same time as the PNW, or with the last update in December.

MozMan68 makes a good point about the complexities of most of the geographic areas left... one of the primary reasons aside from population being why I see more rural areas like Montana and Wyoming, and the rest of Nevada being among some of the last updated areas.

I'm really anxious to see building outlines in my area. It's not that I haven't seen it on Google Maps in my area before, but it'd be nice to see structures and boundaries within Maps.

 

[iOS Geek]

I forgot about Alaska when typing that to be honest, which is kind of ironic considering a co-worker of mine is on an Alaskan cruise right now (HA!). I figure it'll probably be updated either around the same time as the PNW, or with the last update in December.

MozMan68 makes a good point about the complexities of most of the geographic areas left... one of the primary reasons aside from population being why I see more rural areas like Montana and Wyoming, and the rest of Nevada being among some of the last updated areas.

I'm really anxious to see building outlines in my area. It's not that I haven't seen it on Google Maps in my area before, but it'd be nice to see structures and boundaries within Maps.

I could see Alaska being the last one to be updated. Especially since it's the biggest state and was also the last one to be surveyed a first time. I believe they started California (and another state or two, don't remember which ones) a second time before Alaska even had it's first. I'm ready to see changes in my area as well. I've seen more green popping up here in Illinois (mainly small specks here and there, but showing up nonetheless) and Apple has now addressed every report I've sent over the last few months. All of which were replied to and corrected over the last few weeks. So it seems that they are starting to prepare our region!

 

[darkside flow]

Not sure why the phone and CarPlay would be different...CarPlaybis just a visual representation of the phone data.

When you get the wrong route, there is a “report an issue” selection at the very bottom that will bring you to a page for route corrections or issues. Just swipe up on the route options area at the bottom and you will see it there.

At any point, when you first saved your office address, was the marker placed incorrectly, and did you "move" the marker to where you wanted it to be?

The office address is saved correctly and the marker is in the right place.

I just noticed that on CarPlay, the work address shows "_____ street" while it used to say the number and the street name. My house address shows number and street name. Prior to iOS13 it would show the full address for work. So what's seems to be happening is it is directing me to an arbitrary location on Keele Street rather than the exact address. However, the exact address is definitely programmed properly and it is somehow just not showing up on CarPlay.

Going to test things with 13.1 tomorrow morning to see if it was just a weird glitch.

 

[MozMan68]

The office address is saved correctly and the marker is in the right place.

I just noticed that on CarPlay, the work address shows "_____ street" while it used to say the number and the street name. My house address shows number and street name. Prior to iOS13 it would show the full address for work. So what's seems to be happening is it is directing me to an arbitrary location on Keele Street rather than the exact address. However, the exact address is definitely programmed properly and it is somehow just not showing up on CarPlay.

Going to test things with 13.1 tomorrow morning to see if it was just a weird glitch.

Are you typing in or selecting "work" or are you asking Siri to "directions to ABC Work"??

Have you verified in Apple Maps that the POI for your work is correct? Not what you have typed in your contact card.

If a correction was made recently, I have noticed that routing sometimes takes another day or two to catch up...not sure why. I'm guessing that shouldn't happen with owned data in the updated Maps areas though.

 

[darkside flow]

Are you typing in or selecting "work" or are you asking Siri to "directions to ABC Work"??

Have you verified in Apple Maps that the POI for your work is correct? Not what you have typed in your contact card.

If a correction was made recently, I have noticed that routing sometimes takes another day or two to catch up...not sure why. I'm guessing that shouldn't happen with owned data in the updated Maps areas though.

I'm selecting the work address on the CarPlay apple maps display. I'm assuming this populates data from my contact card.

Yes the POI is correct; address entered matches the pin.

I suppose this is actually a CarPlay issue then rather than a maps issue now that I've confirmed the map show the correct address/pin.

 

[MozMan68]

I'm selecting the work address on the CarPlay apple maps display. I'm assuming this populates data from my contact card.

Yes the POI is correct; address entered matches the pin.

I suppose this is actually a CarPlay issue then rather than a maps issue now that I've confirmed the map show the correct address/pin.

Again...I think it’s a routing issue since CarPlay and Maps on the phone are identical.

My work address in NYC showed the correct address, poi on the map, etc. but it still wanted to route to the old address for a week or more.

Where are you located, generally? New maps area?

 

[digitalexplr]

Yes...and maybe only available on later phones as an option??

Directions worked fine, but Philly isn't exactly as "dense" as NYC...at least where I was walking, so I don't consider it a real test. And I'm just not sure how upright the phone needs to be positioned for it to determine your location based on the surroundings.

I'd love a video from Apple or some tech site explaining how this works with real world examples. I think it is supposed to be able to determine which side of the street you are on, how far you are from an intersection....things like that which can be determined by the camera and AR along with the Maps data.

I think Walking is an iPhone 11 feature. Doesn't show on XR.

 

[dk001]

Testing an IPP 11 and just updated to iPadOS ....
One of the first things I have tried is Mail, Calendar, and Apple Maps.
In portrait mode the maps have opened upside down 2x now. Easily flipped back but ....
have to dig and see if some settings may have changed with the update.
Here's the latest.


Have had a couple of app crashes but those likely need updates.
Will play around for a bit and see what happens....

 

[G1Ravage]

Updated to iOS 13.1 this afternoon. At the very least, now when I open Apple Maps on my phone, it remembers that I want traffic enabled, and that I like to view the map in 3D mode.

But. I. Still. Don't. Have. The. Northeast. Update.

Apple, come on!!!!! What is the hold up?!???

 

[MozMan68]

I think Walking is an iPhone 11 feature. Doesn't show on XR.

I wouldn’t come up as an option on the XS Max if it wasn’t available.

 

[MozMan68]

Updated to iOS 13.1 this afternoon. At the very least, now when I open Apple Maps on my phone, it remembers that I want traffic enabled, and that I like to view the map in 3D mode.

But. I. Still. Don't. Have. The. Northeast. Update.

Apple, come on!!!!! What is the hold up?!???

Updates seem to come at midnight local time from what I’ve noticed, right?

 

[G1Ravage]

Updates seem to come at midnight local time from what I’ve noticed, right?

Hard to say. Some people randomly started seeing it during the day time. An old article I read stated Apple pushes out updates to the maps around Midnight Pacific Time, which is 3:00 AM Eastern Time.

And my Maps app just decided to default back to 2D when opening it. It won't stay in 3D. But the traffic is staying on. I sent Apple a complaint through the app.

 

[idrewuk]

They’ve been driving around the UK for some time, hopefully this means we’ll get the Look Around feature sooner rather than later...

 

[gwhizkids]

No update today for me.

 

[darkside flow]

Again...I think it’s a routing issue since CarPlay and Maps on the phone are identical.

My work address in NYC showed the correct address, poi on the map, etc. but it still wanted to route to the old address for a week or more.

Where are you located, generally? New maps area?

Im in Toronto area. I figured out how to fix it but not sure why it happened. The CarPlay favourite for my work address updated when I went to edit it and save again. The number address was there but it was only directing to the street. After editing and saving the same info, the maps favourite directs to the correct location. Weird glitch I guess.

 

[G1Ravage]

Still no Northeast update for me.

I drove to and from work on CarPlay with the new iOS 13.1, and there were some definite improvements over base 13.

For starters, the roads looked better. The roads tearing apart and looking jagged was mostly fixed. I believe the stream of information coming to the maps was sped up greatly. This also allows the road bubbles to appear properly. On my phone, Apple Maps doesn't *always* open in 3D view, but at least it always remembers to keep the traffic on. Apple Maps is actively rerouting me around traffic more than ever. It's also notifying me of upcoming construction or lane closures, but 99% of the time it's wrong, and all lanes are open.

Other than that, and the addition of the Share ETA feature...not much has changed. I still don't like how the map view on CarPlay returns to 2D after arriving at your destination. I'd really like it to remain at my default 3D view. I still think the night mode colors are cruddy. I still don't like the "behind the arrow" perspective of iOS 13, which favors seeing the map to the left of your position, while hiding too much of what's on the right. I still think the road bubbles are too large, and that we're losing too much map real estate to dialogs and information.

I want to know if anyone else is experiencing this weird graphical glitch. When navigating somewhere on Apple Maps in Apple CarPlay, especially in night mode, the "next turn" black box near the upper left seems to appear..."staticy" while moving. Like there are bits of gray appearing and disappearing. Looks like static. But it doesn't appear when you take a screenshot of the map screen. It's only visible in person. And this only started with iOS 13. And it's limited only to that box area. Someone please check their CarPlay for me.

 

[gwhizkids]

Still no full Northeast new maps for me but (and this purely anecdotal) there do seem to be more POIs showing up on screen in Maps this morning, as they did for me when I had the new Maps. Hard to measure this, however, and it might be just wishful thinking on my part that this might be a precursor to a full release soon.

 

[G1Ravage]

Still no new maps for me yet. Here are some photos I took the other day, though. Everything looks real nice in daytime mode.

Also, while not pictured, I discovered something interesting. Remember my earlier comments about the "perspective" of the camera during navigation on Apple CarPlay?

On iOS 12 through 12.1.4, the camera would be positioned "over the left shoulder" of the directional arrow, pointed slightly to the right. This meant that for most roads you're driving on, the route line would be going diagonally up towards the left a bit. As the directional arrow (representing the car) was typically placed around 6 or 7/10ths of the way towards the right side of the screen, this perspective allowed you to see a decent amount of map to the right of your car.

However, upon entering the "overview" view, showing the entire route, and then going back to the normal view, the camera would then be fixed directly behind the arrow at all times, facing straight ahead. I didn't like this perspective, so I made a habit of never entering the overview map.

But this has been reversed as of iOS 13 and 13.1. Now when I start up a route, it defaults to the fixed view directly behind the arrow, facing straight ahead, which I'm not overly fond of. But if I switch to the overview map and then switch back, the camera will almost revert back to the over the shoulder perspective, facing slightly to the right, just as it used to be. It's not as extreme of a diagonal viewpoint, but it's still there, and it lets me see a bit more of what's to the right of me.

It's all so strange. The fact that, on both iOS 12 and 13, the camera perspective changes upon returning from the overview map, suggests that this is some sort of bug. Why wouldn't it be consistent?

 

[digitalexplr]

I wouldn’t come up as an option on the XS Max if it wasn’t available.

You are seeing the option on the XS Max?

 

[G1Ravage]

Thankfully, I work odd hours, so I never have to drive to work during the rush hour. But I just did a route comparison between the big three apps. Apple Maps and Google Maps gave me basically the same route, with roughly the same travel time. Waze gave me a more direct route, with an extra five minutes on the running time.

ALSO! Something I forgot to mention earlier. While navigating on Apple Maps via Apple CarPlay on iOS 13.1, I'm noticing that traffic information on the screen seems to be updating VERY rapidly. Like, I'll be sitting at a traffic light, and suddenly all the traffic lines change, disappear, change color, whatever. It's updating at a Waze-like pace.

 

[CTHarrryH]

Still no new maps for me yet. Here are some photos I took the other day, though. Everything looks real nice in daytime mode.

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Also, while not pictured, I discovered something interesting. Remember my earlier comments about the "perspective" of the camera during navigation on Apple CarPlay?

On iOS 12 through 12.1.4, the camera would be positioned "over the left shoulder" of the directional arrow, pointed slightly to the right. This meant that for most roads you're driving on, the route line would be going diagonally up towards the left a bit. As the directional arrow (representing the car) was typically placed around 6 or 7/10ths of the way towards the right side of the screen, this perspective allowed you to see a decent amount of map to the right of your car.

However, upon entering the "overview" view, showing the entire route, and then going back to the normal view, the camera would then be fixed directly behind the arrow at all times, facing straight ahead. I didn't like this perspective, so I made a habit of never entering the overview map.

But this has been reversed as of iOS 13 and 13.1. Now when I start up a route, it defaults to the fixed view directly behind the arrow, facing straight ahead, which I'm not overly fond of. But if I switch to the overview map and then switch back, the camera will almost revert back to the over the shoulder perspective, facing slightly to the right, just as it used to be. It's not as extreme of a diagonal viewpoint, but it's still there, and it lets me see a bit more of what's to the right of me.

It's all so strange. The fact that, on both iOS 12 and 13, the camera perspective changes upon returning from the overview map, suggests that this is some sort of bug. Why wouldn't it be consistent?

Does clicking on /pressing the arrow on the screen or on the phone change the prospective? I haven't tried or experienced your issue but I know in the past pressing on the arrow changed the prospective

 

[G1Ravage]

Does clicking on /pressing the arrow on the screen or on the phone change the prospective? I haven't tried or experienced your issue but I know in the past pressing on the arrow changed the prospective

I'm not sure. I never navigate using solely my phone, and my car's turn wheel doesn't seem to read the arrow as a selectable object in CarPlay. Maybe I'll try later.

 

[MozMan68]

You are seeing the option on the XS Max?

Yes...