Thanks. I was planning to get a Kingston a2000 which is quite cheap (35€ for 250gb) but I'll consider the Silicon Power as well as it's an extra 10€. Also I'll maybe get a short adapter as I have a long version atm.
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Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
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Thanks. I was planning to get a Kingston a2000 which is quite cheap (35€ for 250gb) but I'll consider the Silicon Power as well as it's an extra 10€. Also I'll maybe get a short adapter as I have a long version atm.
I am having issues. I have upgraded to Big Sur and my bootrom updated. I purchased a WD Blue 1 TB SSD and an external case. I formatted the WD to APFS and then did a Carbon Copy Clone from the original Apple 128GB drive to the WD. I installed the WD into a Sintech adapter and started up my 2014 Macbook Pro. It doesn't see the new drive. I tried a Jesot adapter instead. Same issue. Once I finish booting I am given the choice of installing from a Time Machine backup. When I choose the backup, the Mac can't find a disk to install it to. I took the WD out again and reinstalled the original disk and put the WD back in the enclosure. The Macbook boots fine and can see the attached WD hard drive.
I am open to any suggestions.
I am open to any suggestions.
Never mind. I installed Big Sur on the WD while it was still in the external enclosure and then booted from it to make sure it worked. I then swapped it back into the MacBook and everything works now.
My MacBook air 2015 is working very smoothly with Big Sur + Silicon Power 512MB.
No boot delays and it is running cooler compared to Catalina.
Thanks for replying. May I know the process you did? Did you update directly using your nvme ssd + adapter? I've seen the process here is to use the apple SSD to upgrade to Big Sur and then replacing it back with the nvme sad one.
I've been using the NVMe as an internal disk since February.
When Big Sur 11.0.1 was released last week, I updated the computer using System Preferences -> Software Update.
The OS + BootRom were updated in the process.
If you plan on using Kingston a2000, definitely use a short adapter.
I forgot to mention, but the computer was running Catalina 10.15.7 before the update.
Post #7639 is interesting, and thanks for sharing. This let users update BootROM without going through the hassle of installing a new OS. Some users will find it very useful.
We took the plunge and successfully upgraded our 2015 13-inch Macbook Pro to the latest BootROM 424.0.0.0.0. The result is uneventful. The new BootROM alone doesn't show any improvement with respect to third party SSD nor there is any change in sleep/hibernation behaviour. OS version is Catalina 10.15.7.
But with further tinkering comes more observations...
Now I'm pretty sure 0.00A comes directly from Apple SMC. When our WD SN550 in lower power state, the current is truly non-measurably close to 0A (more on this below). Sounds like a real glitch that when 3rd party SSD in such power state, Apple SMC can't respond quick enough to provide "real-time" reading when disk activities resume. If the activities are "brief", you simply can't observe any change in current.
Back then it was just a thought experiment, I didn't have concrete data. With the new BootROM, I repeated sleep/hibernation tests with more attention to details. Here are the results:
Restore power management back to Apple defaults i.e. for average users, the chance of hibernation is reduced to minimal if not none.
Session one: sleep for 5.5h (I think Apple calls it "Deep Idle"), battery dropped 11%.
Session two: sleep for 4.5h, battery dropped 9%.
On average, our Macbook Pro drops 2% per hour. Great! And yet embarrassing.
2% per hour lands on the divider in my though experiment. So I looked into our ageing battery (with 220 cycles). The current capacity is about 6050mAh (about 92% of design capacity). That means if SN550 consumes 260mA at idle or sleep or any lower power states, it'll cause battery to drop a whopping 4.2% per hour. This gives me confidence in asserting that SN550 truly consumes no power when SMC reports 0.00A (most of the time..)
Session one: 2.67h 0% drop
Session two: 6h 1% drop.
Very nice. Personally, we'll stay with the adjusted & reduced standbydelay's. SSD write incurred by hibernation image is low when compared to daily TeraByteWrite quota given SN550's 5-year warranty. Also it's way easier and enjoyable to replace a SSD then a new battery.
This sums up my one-month long journey. To everyone (and future Internet nobody landing on this thread), enjoy your new SSD and MacBook's.
Cheers
We took the plunge and successfully upgraded our 2015 13-inch Macbook Pro to the latest BootROM 424.0.0.0.0. The result is uneventful. The new BootROM alone doesn't show any improvement with respect to third party SSD nor there is any change in sleep/hibernation behaviour. OS version is Catalina 10.15.7.
But with further tinkering comes more observations...
Now I'm pretty sure 0.00A comes directly from Apple SMC. When our WD SN550 in lower power state, the current is truly non-measurably close to 0A (more on this below). Sounds like a real glitch that when 3rd party SSD in such power state, Apple SMC can't respond quick enough to provide "real-time" reading when disk activities resume. If the activities are "brief", you simply can't observe any change in current.
Back then it was just a thought experiment, I didn't have concrete data. With the new BootROM, I repeated sleep/hibernation tests with more attention to details. Here are the results:
Restore power management back to Apple defaults i.e. for average users, the chance of hibernation is reduced to minimal if not none.
Session one: sleep for 5.5h (I think Apple calls it "Deep Idle"), battery dropped 11%.
Session two: sleep for 4.5h, battery dropped 9%.
On average, our Macbook Pro drops 2% per hour. Great! And yet embarrassing.
2% per hour lands on the divider in my though experiment. So I looked into our ageing battery (with 220 cycles). The current capacity is about 6050mAh (about 92% of design capacity). That means if SN550 consumes 260mA at idle or sleep or any lower power states, it'll cause battery to drop a whopping 4.2% per hour. This gives me confidence in asserting that SN550 truly consumes no power when SMC reports 0.00A (most of the time..)
Now, apply 25min to both standbydelay's as described above. Did two tests too.
Session one: 2.67h 0% drop
Session two: 6h 1% drop.
Very nice. Personally, we'll stay with the adjusted & reduced standbydelay's. SSD write incurred by hibernation image is low when compared to daily TeraByteWrite quota given SN550's 5-year warranty. Also it's way easier and enjoyable to replace a SSD then a new battery.
This sums up my one-month long journey. To everyone (and future Internet nobody landing on this thread), enjoy your new SSD and MacBook's.
Cheers
Little update: I have updated my mbp mid 2014 (11,1) to Big Sur 11.1 public beta. The firmware is stil on 157. I suppose the problem is related to the ssd (EVO 970) or maybe to the adapter (sintech long version).
Is there anybody here who has an SK hynix Gold P31 (established to be not working a few months ago) to test whether the new Boot ROM now recognizes the drive? Or whether there have been drive firmware updates to potentially address this?
I have the same adapter; so that's probably not it. I am starting to wonder if you have to be past a certain installed system firmware version for updates to go through while a non-Apple drive is present.
Well last time my apple ssd was working was on Catalina, thus I had 157 prior to installing my NVME ssd. I could just try to do a fresh big sur install from usb, but I cba going through bootcamp / windows install again (I recall the process was quite a mess before being successful). I'm curious to know if anyone managed to upgrade the bootrom on a 970 EVO (not plus).
Nevertheless I'm still happy that everything's so smooth since I've got a new battery and changed thermal paste (overall temperature dropped around 20°C).
Hello Everyone!!
So that my experience will be useful to everyone.
I updated the firmware of the nvme to 12.3 without problem from the bootcamp.
Nvme controller crash problem still present.
I then decided put kapton tape on the sintech adapter.
=> Problem definitely solved (About a month ago)
Updated with Big Sur without a hitch.
Now that big sur gives pre-2015 MacBook users our hibernate function back, what’s the simplest way to re-enable the default settings?
Go into Battery preferences, Battery and hit "Restore Defaults"
Hi All, I've read through the OP and would like someone to confirm this
I have a MacBook Pro Early 2015 A1502 with a Jetdrive 820 in the system (Installed when bought)
This drive seems to have very slow write speeds
I would buy the Sintech adapter and a Adata xpg8200 pro.
This would work just fine right?
I have a MacBook Pro Early 2015 A1502 with a Jetdrive 820 in the system (Installed when bought)
This drive seems to have very slow write speeds
I would buy the Sintech adapter and a Adata xpg8200 pro.
This would work just fine right?
There is a bug in macOS Big Sur 11.0.1, preventing it to update the BootRom in some "old" Macs.
Check this link:
Upgrading to Big Sur 11.0.1: news from the surgery
If you haven’t upgraded to Big Sur yet but intend doing so early, be reassured: it’s one of the smoothest for years. Full details and a few tips to help.
eclecticlight.co
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I have a late 2013 13" and mid-2014 13" and used Apple SSDs to upgrade to 11.01. Both are now running bootrom 427.0.0.0.There is a bug in macOS Big Sur 11.0.1, preventing it to update the BootRom in some "old" Macs.
Check this link:
Upgrading to Big Sur 11.0.1: news from the surgery
If you haven’t upgraded to Big Sur yet but intend doing so early, be reassured: it’s one of the smoothest for years. Full details and a few tips to help.
Thanks.
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This might be out of topic. But this is first time since long time that i found this kind of BootRom version format. I thought apple been settle with XXX.0.0.0.0
this is from MacBook Pro 2017, the bootrom updated to 429.50.1.0.0 when i installed BigSur 11.0.1 using USB installer directly to the new NVME drive installed inside.
EDIT : After some checking, turned out this is how the BootRom should be on supported Macbook Air and Pro model :
MacBook Air:
this is from MacBook Pro 2017, the bootrom updated to 429.50.1.0.0 when i installed BigSur 11.0.1 using USB installer directly to the new NVME drive installed inside.
EDIT : After some checking, turned out this is how the BootRom should be on supported Macbook Air and Pro model :
MacBook Air:
- MacBookAir6,1, MacBookAir6,2 427.0.0.0.0
- MacBookAir7,1, MacBookAir7,2 424.0.0.0.0
- MacBookPro11,1 427.0.0.0.0
- MacBookPro11,2, MacBookPro11,3 427.0.0.0.0
- MacBookPro11,4 424.0.0.0.0
- MacBookPro12,1 424.0.0.0.0
- MacBookPro13,1 429.50.1.0.0
- MacBookPro13,2 429.50.1.0.0
- MacBookPro13,3 429.50.1.0.0
- MacBookPro14,1 429.50.1.0.0
- MacBookPro14,2 429.50.1.0.0
- MacBookPro14,3 429.50.1.0.0
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MBA 11 inch Mid 2013
Big Sur
boot rom 427
ssd Kingston 250gb
1. Black Adapter, good and the speed X4, read 1400 write 1091 mb/s
2. Green Adapter, good no hangs hibernate sleep seems ok but the speed only X2 700 to 800 mb/s r/w
mba 2013 to 2014 green adapter have an issue with the speed
i try with mbp 2015 A1502 green and black adapter same no problem with the speed X4
Big Sur
boot rom 427
ssd Kingston 250gb
1. Black Adapter, good and the speed X4, read 1400 write 1091 mb/s
2. Green Adapter, good no hangs hibernate sleep seems ok but the speed only X2 700 to 800 mb/s r/w
mba 2013 to 2014 green adapter have an issue with the speed
i try with mbp 2015 A1502 green and black adapter same no problem with the speed X4
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Yes. The samsung drives are the highest power consumption (compared to other SSDs) in MacBooks.
That's exactly what I have. Yes, it works very well! Been running it for a couple months now.
