Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe

[developeralioz]

Can someone using the 970 EVO with a "sintech adapter" show me the iStat sensor part?

My GPU frequency does not drop below 500 MHz. I wonder how your values are.

 

[otosan]

Can someone using the 970 EVO with a "sintech adapter" show me the iStat sensor part?

My GPU frequency does not drop below 500 MHz. I wonder how your values are.

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You sure nothing use your GPU ? those iStat bar animation is using GPU as well btw. lol

 

[Matthias Borremans]

Hi All, I've read through the OP and would like someone to confirm this
I have a MacBook Pro Early 2015 A1502 with a Jetdrive 820 in the system (Installed when bought)
This drive seems to have very slow write speeds

I would buy the Sintech adapter and a Adata xpg8200 pro.

This would work just fine right?

That's exactly what I have. Yes, it works very well! Been running it for a couple months now.

No problems with Big Sur, hibernation, battery draw? Thanks!

 

[developeralioz]

You sure nothing use your GPU ? those iStat bar animation is using GPU as well btw. lol

iStat uses GPU for animation on both systems.


I have already successfully installed NVMeFix. In fact, warming has nothing to do with NVMeFix. Let me prove that to you.

The real problem seems to be with Intel GPU Frequency. In the 970 EVO, the GPU frequency does not go below 500 MHz when the system is idle. But in the original Apple SSD, the GPU frequency is between 0-100 MHz when the system is idle.

What does SSD have to do with GPU frequency? How can it affect him?


The system is idle in the pictures I have taken.


Apple SSD:



970 EVO:




Nobody uses the GPU. (970 EVO)

 

[stol]

Does anyone use the Corsair Force Series MP510 (MP510B actually, 960GB) with a Macbook Pro?
Or the ADATA XPG SX8200 PRO (1TB)?

I could use some real world use feedback on those... MacBookPro11,5 (15” Mid-2015 2.5 GHz) here with a long adapter mailed in, waiting for me to choose a proper nvme drive.

 

[missquith]

So I upgraded to Big Sur then downgraded back to Mojave and now I got this "incompatible disk" message when I turn on my macbook. Anyone knows how to fix this?

 

[mo5214]

Yes. The samsung drives are the highest power consumption (compared to other SSDs) in

iStat uses GPU for animation on both systems.


I have already successfully installed NVMeFix. In fact, warming has nothing to do with NVMeFix. Let me prove that to you.

The real problem seems to be with Intel GPU Frequency. In the 970 EVO, the GPU frequency does not go below 500 MHz when the system is idle. But in the original Apple SSD, the GPU frequency is between 0-100 MHz when the system is idle.

What does SSD have to do with GPU frequency? How can it affect him?


The system is idle in the pictures I have taken.


Apple SSD:

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970 EVO:

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Nobody uses the GPU. (970 EVO)

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See my pict in ur thread about how to enable GPU history window in activity monitor (I think its cmd-4)

 

[otosan]

iStat uses GPU for animation on both systems.


I have already successfully installed NVMeFix. In fact, warming has nothing to do with NVMeFix. Let me prove that to you.

The real problem seems to be with Intel GPU Frequency. In the 970 EVO, the GPU frequency does not go below 500 MHz when the system is idle. But in the original Apple SSD, the GPU frequency is between 0-100 MHz when the system is idle.

What does SSD have to do with GPU frequency? How can it affect him?


The system is idle in the pictures I have taken.


Apple SSD:

View attachment 1675558

970 EVO:

View attachment 1675559


Nobody uses the GPU. (970 EVO)

View attachment 1675556

Uninstall your intel power gadget on your 970, restart, and see whether your GPU still act up.

Intel power gadget using kernel extension, which sometimes went bad.

Did you clone your system from the apple ssd to 970 ? If yes, try to repair disk from recobery as well, sometimes some permissions were messed up during system clone,

also, try to rebuild your kext cache.

 

[Bear Manmountain]

Hi all,

I have a MacBook Pro Mid-2014 currently running Mojave. About a year ago I installed a SinTech adapter and a Samsung Evo 970 SSD and everything has been running smooth. Now I'm thinking of upgrading to Big Sur but I'm hesitant. Is there known issues with upgrading to Big Sur when non-Apple SSD is installed?

I'm new here and don't know where to start looking so any help is appreciated. Should I be looking in this thread or is there other threads where I can find information?

Thanks

 

[xboxbml]

No problems with Big Sur, hibernation, battery draw? Thanks!

I won't update to Big Sur on this. I just did get a new battery. I just now updated my original 128gb SSD to Big Sur just to look at it for a minute, and update my bootrom. I then restored the backup I took of it back to 10.14.2. Other than that, I'm staying where I am. My printer wouldn't work on Big Sur. Big Sur doesn't bring me anything new that I need. It only takes away freedom, even more than Catalina did. I still might go back to Mojave at some point, or even High Sierra.

 

[aphirak]

I have done update my Macbook 13" mid-2014 with Big Sur 11.0.1. Everything is working fine without bricking. The bootrom is upgraded to 428.0.0.0. My NVME drive is Crucial P1 1tb.

 

[macpro_mid2014]

So I upgraded to Big Sur then downgraded back to Mojave and now I got this "incompatible disk" message when I turn on my macbook. Anyone knows how to fix this?

When I downgraded from Catalina to Mojave a year ago, I had to get rid of the Data partition. Mojave does not understand the Data partition. I suspect Catalina/Mojave does not understand the updater- partition (cloned system partition mounted RW).
You will have to reformat the SSD before downgrading to Mojave.

 

[macpro_mid2014]

Hi all,

I have a MacBook Pro Mid-2014 currently running Mojave. About a year ago I installed a SinTech adapter and a Samsung Evo 970 SSD and everything has been running smooth. Now I'm thinking of upgrading to Big Sur but I'm hesitant. Is there known issues with upgrading to Big Sur when non-Apple SSD is installed?

I'm new here and don't know where to start looking so any help is appreciated. Should I be looking in this thread or is there other threads where I can find information?

Thanks

I did not have any issues upgrading mine. I had Catalina + Silicon Power + Sintech short adapter.
Check this: https://eclecticlight.co/category/macs/
Dr. Oakley has a good article about upgrading to Big Sur.

 

[danrooster]

Hi,

Just upgraded my MacBook Pro 13" Mid-2014 with a 1TB WD SN550 using the SinTech adapter and restored from a TimeMachine backup. Everything is running great except that I'm unable to install any OS updates.

I'm on Catalina 10.15.6 and I'm not even able to update to 10.15.7. First I thought this was due to issues Apple is having with the Big Sur rollout, but then I tried to install from the combo update package and got an incompatibility error:

Has anyone else run into similar issues? I'll try resetting the SMC and PRAM, but otherwise I guess I either have to update to Big Sur on the Apple SSD and create a new backup from there (or do a fresh install with Big Sur). But if OS updates aren't supported on the new drive that's kind of a dealbreaker for me.

 

[otosan]

Hi,

Just upgraded my MacBook Pro 13" Mid-2014 with a 1TB WD SN550 using the SinTech adapter and restored from a TimeMachine backup. Everything is running great except that I'm unable to install any OS updates.

I'm on Catalina 10.15.6 and I'm not even able to update to 10.15.7. First I thought this was due to issues Apple is having with the Big Sur rollout, but then I tried to install from the combo update package and got an incompatibility error:

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Has anyone else run into similar issues? I'll try resetting the SMC and PRAM, but otherwise I guess I either have to update to Big Sur on the Apple SSD and create a new backup from there (or do a fresh install with Big Sur). But if OS updates aren't supported on the new drive that's kind of a dealbreaker for me.

Make yourself a Catalina 10.15.7 USB installer,

Boot into it, go to disk utility, run First Aid on your main drive, both the container and the volume.

Close disk utility, and choose reinstall OS, and try whether you able to choose your disk or not.

Just FYI. For system cloning, carbon copy do much better job compared to "unflexible & slow" time machine.

 

[otosan]

So I upgraded to Big Sur then downgraded back to Mojave and now I got this "incompatible disk" message when I turn on my macbook. Anyone knows how to fix this?

By saying downgrade,

How exactly you did so ? Did you erase the disk cleanly (Not just the volume, but the diak itself) from disk utility ?

For each downgrade procesa you need total wipe.

 

[danielPro]

Is there anybody here who has an SK hynix Gold P31 (established to be not working a few months ago) to test whether the new Boot ROM now recognizes the drive? Or whether there have been drive firmware updates to potentially address this?


I have the same adapter; so that's probably not it. I am starting to wonder if you have to be past a certain installed system firmware version for updates to go through while a non-Apple drive is present.

I have tried the P31 in Macbook Pro 13 2014 with clean BootROM 427, no luck here. Try catalina and bigsur installtion usb, it does not boot to the installation process. Using the internet recovery, it does not recognize the drive.

 

[erkoolio]

Can confirm that the Cmd+Q instructions to flash Bootrom update from Big Sur image work on MacBook Pro 11,1 mid 2014 with OWC ssd inside. I also had patched Bootrom before this. If the hibernation works then my patching days are over. Thanks cmd+q and apple for finally coming to senses.

edit. Btw. I also run dual boot with Linux and everything went smoothly. The bootrom is flashed before os starts and since linux and macOS are on the same drive, dual booting should not be an issue when updating bootrom.

 

[missquith]

By saying downgrade,

How exactly you did so ? Did you erase the disk cleanly (Not just the volume, but the diak itself) from disk utility ?

For each downgrade procesa you need total wipe.

I erased the disk but I still got the incompatible disk message. I had to erase it again and do time machine. I didn't get the error after.

 

[danrooster]

Make yourself a Catalina 10.15.7 USB installer,

Boot into it, go to disk utility, run First Aid on your main drive, both the container and the volume.

Close disk utility, and choose reinstall OS, and try whether you able to choose your disk or not.

Just FYI. For system cloning, carbon copy do much better job compared to "unflexible & slow" time machine.

Thanks for the reply, reinstall fixed the update to 10.15.7 issue.

Now the issue with updating to Big Sur is that Apple has made the new installer incompatible with 2013-2014 13" Macbook Pro since it was bricking some peoples devices. Unfortunate since the update fixes hibernation issues, we'll see if Apple fixes this or the 2013-2014 13" MBP will be made officially incompatible with Big Sur.

Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B50) Released to Block Install for 2013-14 13" MBPro's!

Following the problems that 2013 & '14 13" MacBook Pro users were having, Apple released a new version of Big Sur that blocks installation!

mrmacintosh.com

 

[Rosen]

Hi everyone, very useful post.
I used it to understand how to upgrade my computer, and bought a Samsung EVO 970 1TB to use on my
MacBook Pro 13" Retina Late 2013 11,1,
BootROM: 162.0.0.0.0,
SMC: 2.16f68.

I bought a MacBook 2013-2015-adapter (non-Sintec, see attachment).
… and maybe that was not the best choice, since everyone talks about Sintec - however: There were no problems finding and formatting disk, also restored ok from Time Machine, Catalina 10.15.7, using 4x speed.
But – I have the Sleep-restart-issue, computer reboots after being off for a while.

Now I found out about the Big Sur and BootROM here.
- Will my MacBook work without the reboot issue if I update to Big Sur (If I dare due to the brick-problems)?
or
- Will will the issues go away if I buy the better Sintec adapter – better one than mine now, I guess?

If Big Sur resolves the problems, I don't need another adapter.
If not, I will order the Sintec, and it all works flawless?
Or – do I need to "sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0 standby 0 autopoweroff 0" from now on?

Thanks!

 

[Matthias Borremans]

I can't understand the whole Bootrom thing. Can someone explain please?
My bootrom is 424.0.0.0.0

 

[Rosen]

Dont use sintech long adapter with SX8200 pro,

the space is way too tight for the bottom component of the ssd. Not to mention the potential bending which might cause solder breakage.

get short one. dont have to be sintech. sintech is no longer leader in adapter game. if any, getting it from reseller might only increase chance of getting fake sintech.

Otosan,
I used this, having some sleep-problems on MacBook Pro 13" Retina 2013. Do you recognize the adapter?
Everything else is ok.

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[danrooster]

I can't understand the whole Bootrom thing. Can someone explain please?
My bootrom is 424.0.0.0.0

In my understanding:
Big Sur comes with a patched Boot Rom that fixes hibernation issues on 2013-2014 machines.

otosan posted expected boot rom versions here #7,697 looks like you're on one of the new ones, but you'd have to check for your machine.

 

[Matthias Borremans]

Dont use sintech long adapter with SX8200 pro,

the space is way too tight for the bottom component of the ssd. Not to mention the potential bending which might cause solder breakage.

get short one. dont have to be sintech. sintech is no longer leader in adapter game. if any, getting it from reseller might only increase chance of getting fake sintech.

You mean, don't use it with the long card but only the adapter? Using this on my MacBook Pro Early 2015

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