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shafez

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The wiki post is getting quite old and out of date now. For example, the 970 Evo Plus does not work with TRIM on Monterey and later, and without it the drive is quite buggy.

The SN570 does work, you can look at posts over the last year or so to check. Also take a look at the "ssd hall of fame needs updating" request on OpenCore's GitHub. The SN550, SN570, SN750 & SN850 all work great as long as you have the latest firmware on the drive and computer.

Modern Samsung drives are a no go if you want to run Monterey and/or Ventura. That includes the 970 Evo Plus, 980 & 980 Pro.
Evo 970 Plus works fine for me with trim on Monterey 12.6.3, no lag whatsoever. Retina MBP 13" Late 2013.
 

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shafez

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Is TRIM actually enabled? TRIM support just means whether if you can or can't, not if it's running.

sudo trimforce enable
The only way to check the trim is through System Reports, If it says yes then the drive is trim qualified and trim will be automatically enabled.
Anyway I used the trim force enable command and nothing changed.
 
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Bob12148

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Hello, I am facing a problem please help me out.
I remove the original ssd and inserted the new wd sn570 with the converter however i am not able to get in recovery of mac os big sur it automatically goes into internet recovery. What might be the problem? But Whwn i put in the original mac ssd the recovery works just fine.Please help me out
 

theMarble

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Mac: MacBookPro11,4 (A1398 - 2015 15" IGP model)
macOS version: macOS Ventura 13.2 (22D49)
OCLP version: 0.6.1 (latest release as of 12/2/23)
CPU: i7 4770HQ (2.2GHz, 4c/8t)
Boot ROM Version: 476.0.0.0.0
SSD: WD Blue SN570 1TB
SSD Revision: 234110WD
Adapter: XT-Xinite NVMe adapter for 2013-2015 MacBook Pro (link on the WikiPost)
Temperature: 38°C under normal use (browsing the web | temp recorded from iStat)
TRIM Support: Enabled via trimforce, no glitches or lag so far

To answer anyone's residual questions about the SN570, it works great! No problems at all. Speeds while aren't as good as the advertised 3500/3000 read/write, it is still ~2.5x as fast as my original SSUBX 256GB from the factory.
 
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theMarble

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Hello, I am facing a problem please help me out.
I remove the original ssd and inserted the new wd sn570 with the converter however i am not able to get in recovery of mac os big sur it automatically goes into internet recovery. What might be the problem? But Whwn i put in the original mac ssd the recovery works just fine.Please help me out
When no OS has ever been installed on the drive (and is uninitialised), there is no standard recovery partition to boot into. You either go into Internet Recovery (which will only detect an NVMe drive if the original OS that shipped with the computer was High Sierra or later) or use a pre-made macOS install USB.
 

Bob12148

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When no OS has ever been installed on the drive (and is uninitialised), there is no standard recovery partition to boot into. You either go into Internet Recovery (which will only detect an NVMe drive if the original OS that shipped with the computer was High Sierra or later) or use a pre-made macOS install USB.
So what should i do please recommend i am new to this and don’t have any knowledge.. please guide me through how to.. I dont have nvme enclosure to initialise the new ssd
 

Bob12148

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When no OS has ever been installed on the drive (and is uninitialised), there is no standard recovery partition to boot into. You either go into Internet Recovery (which will only detect an NVMe drive if the original OS that shipped with the computer was High Sierra or later) or use a pre-made macOS install USB.
Ok thanks i got it woohoo thank you very much .. i was not pluging in the mac os installer usb. You remind me of that . I was about to give up and return the ssd and the adapter. Now that i plug in the usb installer it shows right up to the big sur recovery and i am now able to detect the new ssd and initialise it. Now i am able to install mac os in the new ssd.. if u were not here to help me out now i would have return the ssd .. Thanks again U r a life saver ..
 

Bob12148

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What OS did you computer originally come with? (that is when it was taken out of the box for the first time)
I got it now @theMarble Thank you again. U are a life saver. I was getting hopeless but U were there to help me out.. You might not know how happy i am now. Words cant describe how i feel now hehe❤️
 

otosan

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Is TRIM actually enabled? TRIM support just means whether if you can or can't, not if it's running.

sudo trimforce enable
You shouldn't change trimforce configuration with NVME drive. It's should always enabled by default. If it's not, then you have hardware compatibility issue.

and,

NEVER disable TRIM when on NVME

sudo trimforce command should only be used with SATA drive.
 

Gerald-W

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I've been running a 2TB Intel 660 INTEL NVMe on a 2014 MacBook Pro 15" Retina is working very well. I did a Carbon Copy Clone of original drive and then installed it with adapter. Can't believe I'm running out of room.

My question is: Has anyone had success with a 4TB NVMe? Like say,
Crucial P# PCIE Gen3 3D NAND NVMe M.2?

 

chrisT_fir

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The WiFi issues is not due to your upgrade, but rather the macOS problem itself, especially on BigSur. Somehow the WiFi connection is simply awful, it will disconnecting after few seconds of first connection. But if you reconnect it, then it would work just fine. At least that's what i experience with half or dozens of my customer's macbook. It even happened on my 2020 MBP (it solved in Ventura tho)

Most of them got the issue resolved after updating to Monterey. Your 2014 model doesn't support Monterey or Ventura natively, but you might want to try to install in using OpenCore patcher. OpenCore has some NVME fix included that might solve your drain issue as well,

although, the drain is not supposed to happen anymore in newer System Firmware. You might want to try to run this command in terminal as well :

sudo pmset -a powernap 0 standby 1 standbydelayhigh 1500 standbydelaylow 1500 hibernatemode 3
I have tried the command and there is anymore drain power over the night or between sessions of use.
Thank so much!

My power management settings before the command were:
System-wide power settings:
Currently in use:
standbydelaylow 10800
standby 1
halfdim 1
hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage
gpuswitch 2
powernap 0
disksleep 10
standbydelayhigh 86400
sleep 1 (sleep prevented by sharingd)
autopoweroffdelay 259200
hibernatemode 3
autopoweroff 1
ttyskeepawake 1
displaysleep 2
highstandbythreshold 50
acwake 0
lidwake 1
 

macpro_mid2014

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I've been running a 2TB Intel 660 INTEL NVMe on a 2014 MacBook Pro 15" Retina is working very well. I did a Carbon Copy Clone of original drive and then installed it with adapter. Can't believe I'm running out of room.

My question is: Has anyone had success with a 4TB NVMe? Like say,
Crucial P# PCIE Gen3 3D NAND NVMe M.2?

I would not risk a P* something due to previous problems reported here with P2 and P5.

I would choose the ADATA XPG SX8100 4TB. People who used ADATA in the past did not have such issues. You can search this thread for use cases.
 

Gerald-W

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I would not risk a P* something due to previous problems reported here with P2 and P5.

I would choose the ADATA XPG SX8100 4TB. People who used ADATA in the past did not have such issues. You can search this thread for use cases.
I was enamored by Crucial's low, low price of a mere $249. An Amazon reviewer,
Good upgrade for mid-2014 MacBook Pro Retina
By mhess427 in the United States on November 29, 2022
said they had success with it on a 2014 MacBook Pros. That gave me hope.
My "problem" with the ADATA XPG SX8100 4TB is it's a bit pricey at $951.04. Yikes.
 
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Gerald-W

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I was just watching Luke Miani upgrading a 2015 MacBook Pro Retina with Crucial P3 Plus NVMe PCIe M.2 2280ss SSD. He did what I had done with my Intel 660P. I suppose others have done this way as well. This gives me hope again.

 
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Robbo 1

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I was just watching Luke Miani upgrading a 2015 MacBook Pro Retina with Crucial P3 Plus NVMe PCIe M.2 2280ss SSD. He did what I had done with my Intel 660P. I suppose others have done this way as well. This gives me hope again.

Hi. I have just today upgraded my mid 2014 15” MacBook Pro with the Crucial P3 ssd. Absolutely no problems at all and working perfectly.
Rob.
 
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HandITOVER

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They are users asking if the Kingston NV2 is usable on mac and is it the new budget value in 2023

So it is better than my M2 MacBook Air that cost $400 for upgrading to 1TB from Apple instead of $100 from Kingston

Should I return the M2 Macbook Air because of notch-screen+non-removable ssd+non-upgradable ssd? It seems like a terrible deal from Apple that charges an exorbitant price.​

Please shares your thoughts on how to fix it?​

 
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ThEcXMaN

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Dec 5, 2022
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Hi everyone,

I've read several pages of the (huge) thread, all of which are very helpful. I see the initial post is considered "to be updated", and given @theMarble user experience, I ask:

- I have a MacBook AIR 2017 with 128GB (original SSD, Monterey installed)
- the idea for an upgrade would be this:

Adapter (adapter)

WD Blue SN570 1TB (WD Blue SN570 1TB)

For a total of around 70 euros. In your experience, do I go easy or do you have better suggestions? Thanks, Mario
 

Bob12148

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Feb 7, 2023
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Delhi
Hi everyone,

I've read several pages of the (huge) thread, all of which are very helpful. I see the initial post is considered "to be updated", and given @theMarble user experience, I ask:

- I have a MacBook AIR 2017 with 128GB (original SSD, Monterey installed)
- the idea for an upgrade would be this:

Adapter (adapter)

WD Blue SN570 1TB (WD Blue SN570 1TB)

For a total of around 70 euros. In your experience, do I go easy or do you have better suggestions? Thanks, Mario
Just upgraded my MBP 2014 from 128gb to 1Tb WD SN570 and its working great.. As my opinion you should go for it.
Its budget friendly and also provides good performance.
 
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Dylzy202

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Hi is the crucial P2 1TB Nvme drive a good pick for my dual GPU late 2013 retina MacBook Pro 15"?

Surely this drive shouldn't effect thermals? my machine runs toasty-ish at around 73 celcius on both cpu & GPU at max loads after mx-4 thermal paste change & deep clean. so ideally don't want a drive that creates lots of heat.

I was thinking of picking the crucial P2 up due to the drive consuming the least amount of power & also reaching good read / write speeds. at a compelling price.

What about the P3 model would that also work?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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