Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe

[Bafa10]

Hi!

I just completed installation in a MacBook Pro Retina early-2015. I am using Samsung 980. Sintech adapter with the long support. MacOS Monterey.

The results I am getting, starting off cool:
- Write 600-700mb/s
- Read 800-900mb/s

This seems quite low compared to readings in this post. Any idea why?

My installation was messy… the battery connector was stuck and did not want to come off. I broke part of the plastic lip on the conector in one corner. Luckily it was only cosmetic damage.

I decided to perform the replacement “hot” with the battery connected. As I was worried to make permanent damage to the connector.

Computer started well and everything is working smoothly. Is it possible that low speeds is some type of damage?

I also did not install via USB. I preinstalled the MacOS using a SSD housing.

Any thoughts are appreciated! Thanks!

 

[MarqueMarc]

Hi!

After using several WD SN750 SSD in MacBooks, Airs and iMacs without any Problem at all, I am sad that they are not available or only available for big money now.
That's why I considering Kioxia Exceria Plus G2 or Kioxia Exceria G2 SSDs for further projects.
As far as I checked this forum, they are a good alternative.
I would prefer the Plus version, but at least the 1TB and the 2TB versions are double sided.
That is why I am a little unsure for now.
In 27" iMacs I would say that temperature drainage shouldn't be a problem with double sided drives.
But what about MacBooks (e.g. 15" 2015) or MbA 13"? Is the airflow with those models good enough to bring the heat out of these machines for double sided SSDs, too?

Thank you for any thoughts or experiences!

 

[chrisT_fir]

Hi!

///
I would prefer the Plus version, but at least the 1TB and the 2TB versions are double sided.
That is why I am a little unsure for now.
In 27" iMacs I would say that temperature drainage shouldn't be a problem with double sided drives.
But what about MacBooks (e.g. 15" 2015) or MbA 13"? Is the airflow with those models good enough to bring the heat out of these machines for double sided SSDs, too?
///

I don't think there is a problem with double sided SSDs. My APPLE SSD SD0128F (a SanDisk AHCI costumed by Apple) from MBPr 13" mid 2014 is double sided and I have no issue with the temperatures.
I also intent to replace this SSD with a NVMe SSD and I hope to receive a recommendation for a low power, low temp SSD. If you can afford the price, SK hynix Gold P31 is the one.

 

[MarqueMarc]

If you can afford the price, SK hynix Gold P31 is the one.

Oh! Is this a consumer drive? Listed on a German price finder since mid 2021 (means it is not that old), it is only available from Amazon, and only the 1TB version. The price is even higher than the WD SN750 2TB, which are on sale, or the Kioxia Exceria Plus G2 2TB.
I am looking for a good overall drive which I will be able to buy again in the next 12 month - the Kioxia seems to be the best choice therefore.

 

[chrisT_fir]

Oh! Is this a consumer drive? Listed on a German price finder since mid 2021 (means it is not that old), it is only available from Amazon, and only the 1TB version. The price is even higher than the WD SN750 2TB, which are on sale, or the Kioxia Exceria Plus G2 2TB.
I am looking for a good overall drive which I will be able to buy again in the next 12 month - the Kioxia seems to be the best choice therefore.

Almost all the drives proved to work power efficient end not throttle at high temp are more expensive than regular PCIe NVMe. Sabrent ROCKET-1TB which you may find as power efficient is also very expensive. Sabrent Q already switched to QLC (as Crucial) and its a lottery to buy it (maybe it will work well for a while and then have issues like P2).
I wait for o confirmation for Kioxia G2 (not Plus - which is overkill for PCI2 2.0 x2 in my case) and I think this the one for my MBP.

 

[mclovely]

Further to my previous post below, when I try to scan my Crucial P2 with Phison nvme flash id2, I don't get a full set of results. Looking at other members scans, I appear to be missing a lot of details to tell me if its TLC or QLC.

I'd be very appreciative if anyone could explain why I'm not getting a full scan. Could it be the USB caddy that I have the SSD housed in? Or can someone confirm from the scan I have posted that it is TLC or QLC.

Thank you kindly.

Hi all,

I purchased a Crucial P2 back in March 2021 and then life happened. I now really need to upgrade my SSD in my 2015 MBP but don't want to install it if it's not the TLC version.

I ran Phison nvme flash id2 and this is what it gave me below, but I'm still not sure if this drive is QLC or TLC. I do see QLC listed a few times more than TLC though! 😂


Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Spoiler: report

Drive : 1(USB)
Bridge : JMS
Model : CT2000P2SSD8
Fw : P2CR031
HMB : 5448 - 2234752 KB
Size : 1907729 MB [2000.4 GB]
LBA Size: 512
AdminCmd: 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x18 0x80 0x81 0x82 0x84 0xD0 0xD1 0xD2 0xF4
I/O Cmd : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x08 0x09
Firmware lock supported [02 01] [P002] [0600]
Handshake error: -7
Drive state [02 02]
F/W : EDFN70.0
Read_Infoblock_5013 error: -1
Get_Flash_Info_5013 error: -1
Bank00: 0x33,0xc0,0x8e,0xd0,0xbc,0x0,0x7c,0x8e -
Bank01: 0xc0,0x8e,0xd8,0xbe,0x0,0x7c,0xbf,0x0 -
Bank02: 0x6,0xb9,0x0,0x2,0xfc,0xf3,0xa4,0x50 -
Bank03: 0x68,0x1c,0x6,0xcb,0xfb,0xb9,0x4,0x0 -
Bank04: 0xbd,0xbe,0x7,0x80,0x7e,0x0,0x0,0x7c -
Bank05: 0xb,0xf,0x85,0xe,0x1,0x83,0xc5,0x10 -
Bank06: 0xe2,0xf1,0xcd,0x18,0x88,0x56,0x0,0x55 -
Bank07: 0xc6,0x46,0x11,0x5,0xc6,0x46,0x10,0x0 -
Bank08: 0xb4,0x41,0xbb,0xaa,0x55,0xcd,0x13,0x5d -
Bank09: 0x72,0xf,0x81,0xfb,0x55,0xaa,0x75,0x9 -
Bank10: 0xf7,0xc1,0x1,0x0,0x74,0x3,0xfe,0x46 -
Bank11: 0x10,0x66,0x60,0x80,0x7e,0x10,0x0,0x74 -
Bank12: 0x26,0x66,0x68,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x66 -
Bank14: 0x7c,0x68,0x1,0x0,0x68,0x10,0x0,0xb4 -
Bank15: 0x42,0x8a,0x56,0x0,0x8b,0xf4,0xcd,0x13 -
Bank16: 0x9f,0x83,0xc4,0x10,0x9e,0xeb,0x14,0xb8 -
Bank17: 0x1,0x2,0xbb,0x0,0x7c,0x8a,0x56,0x0 - Spansion TLC
Bank18: 0x8a,0x76,0x1,0x8a,0x4e,0x2,0x8a,0x6e -
Bank19: 0x3,0xcd,0x13,0x66,0x61,0x73,0x1c,0xfe -
Bank20: 0x4e,0x11,0x75,0xc,0x80,0x7e,0x0,0x80 -
Bank21: 0xf,0x84,0x8a,0x0,0xb2,0x80,0xeb,0x84 -
Bank22: 0x55,0x32,0xe4,0x8a,0x56,0x0,0xcd,0x13 -
Bank23: 0x5d,0xeb,0x9e,0x81,0x3e,0xfe,0x7d,0x55 -
Bank24: 0xaa,0x75,0x6e,0xff,0x76,0x0,0xe8,0x8d -
Bank26: 0xe8,0x83,0x0,0xb0,0xdf,0xe6,0x60,0xe8 -
Bank27: 0x7c,0x0,0xb0,0xff,0xe6,0x64,0xe8,0x75 -
Bank29: 0x23,0xc0,0x75,0x3b,0x66,0x81,0xfb,0x54 -
Bank30: 0x43,0x50,0x41,0x75,0x32,0x81,0xf9,0x2 -
Bank31: 0x1,0x72,0x2c,0x66,0x68,0x7,0xbb,0x0 - Spansion QLC
Bank33: 0x68,0x8,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x66,0x53,0x66 -
Bank34: 0x53,0x66,0x55,0x66,0x68,0x0,0x0,0x0 -
Bank36: 0x61,0x68,0x0,0x0,0x7,0xcd,0x1a,0x5a -
Bank37: 0x32,0xf6,0xea,0x0,0x7c,0x0,0x0,0xcd -
Bank38: 0x18,0xa0,0xb7,0x7,0xeb,0x8,0xa0,0xb6 -
Bank39: 0x7,0xeb,0x3,0xa0,0xb5,0x7,0x32,0xe4 - Renesas SLC
Bank40: 0x5,0x0,0x7,0x8b,0xf0,0xac,0x3c,0x0 -
Bank41: 0x74,0x9,0xbb,0x7,0x0,0xb4,0xe,0xcd -
Bank42: 0x10,0xeb,0xf2,0xf4,0xeb,0xfd,0x2b,0xc9 -
Bank43: 0xe4,0x64,0xeb,0x0,0x24,0x2,0xe0,0xf8 -
Bank44: 0x24,0x2,0xc3,0x49,0x6e,0x76,0x61,0x6c -
Bank45: 0x69,0x64,0x20,0x70,0x61,0x72,0x74,0x69 -
Bank46: 0x74,0x69,0x6f,0x6e,0x20,0x74,0x61,0x62 -
Bank47: 0x6c,0x65,0x0,0x45,0x72,0x72,0x6f,0x72 -
Bank48: 0x20,0x6c,0x6f,0x61,0x64,0x69,0x6e,0x67 - STMicro QLC
Bank49: 0x20,0x6f,0x70,0x65,0x72,0x61,0x74,0x69 - STMicro SLC
Bank50: 0x6e,0x67,0x20,0x73,0x79,0x73,0x74,0x65 -
Bank51: 0x6d,0x0,0x4d,0x69,0x73,0x73,0x69,0x6e -
Bank52: 0x67,0x20,0x6f,0x70,0x65,0x72,0x61,0x74 -
Bank53: 0x69,0x6e,0x67,0x20,0x73,0x79,0x73,0x74 -
Bank54: 0x65,0x6d,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x63,0x7b,0x9a -
Bank55: 0x4b,0xe1,0x66,0xaa,0x0,0x0,0x0,0x20 -
Bank56: 0x21,0x0,0x7,0xfe,0xff,0xff,0x0,0x8 -
Controller : PS5013-E13
Nand vendor : Micron (0x2c)
CPU Clk : 667
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
Flash Clk,MT : 800
Die per CE : 1
Block per CE : 1968
Page per Block: 4608
Bit Per Cell : 4(QLC)
PE Cycle Limit: 40000/1500
SLC cache : 0x0/0x0

 

[lueej]

Hi, sorry if this has been covered, I tried searching the thread but nothing conclusive came up.

I have a MBP Retina 15", Late 2013 Macbook 11,3 with bootrom 156.0.0.0.0 and I'm getting constant (multiple times daily) kernel crashes. Here is my Panic Log. Pioneer 2TB SSD has been installed for the past 2 years, model APS-SE20G-2T

Will this model be able to receive the new (>400.0.0.0.0) bootrom with an OS update, and is this expected to fix the issues I'm experiencing? Do I need to use the original SSD in an enclosure to make a bootable, or can I update the OS/bootrom directly using the current SSD?

Thank you for any insights.

 

[chrisT_fir]

Hi, sorry if this has been covered, I tried searching the thread but nothing conclusive came up.

I have a MBP Retina 15", Late 2013 Macbook 11,3 with bootrom 156.0.0.0.0 and I'm getting constant (multiple times daily) kernel crashes. Here is my Panic Log. Pioneer 2TB SSD has been installed for the past 2 years, model APS-SE20G-2T

Will this model be able to receive the new (>400.0.0.0.0) bootrom with an OS update, and is this expected to fix the issues I'm experiencing? Do I need to use the original SSD in an enclosure to make a bootable, or can I update the OS/bootrom directly using the current SSD?

Thank you for any insights.

Hi!
As is written on the first page and in the last 20 pages, yes.

Please, see:
"
6 - Hibernation issues on 2013-2014 laptops

Starting with macOS Big Sur 11.0.1, Apple has released Root ROM or system firmware for 2013-2014 MacBook Pro and MacBook Air models that allows these models to be upgraded with NVMe drives and prevent deep sleep issues without further system modifications.

* Late 2013 MacBook Pro 13” with Retina Display (MacBookPro11,1): Boot ROM 427.0.0.0 and higher
* Mid-2013 MacBook Air 11”: Boot ROM 4xx.0.0.0 and higher

Updating to those 4xx.0.0.0 versions of Boot ROM or system firmware will make any additional modifications to prevent unexpected system restarts unnecessary; however, it has been noted that the hibernation and autopoweroff behavior of those MacBooks models has been changed and that the battery discharge is higher than with the original PCIe SSD.
"
And YES, you need to use the original SSD or if you don't have it anymore, buy a cheap SH one (AHCI) and use it.

Same procedure is applicable for MBP 15" late 2013. As I understood, having BigSur and Boot ROM updated, you can use the NVMe SDD to update the ROM together with the OS if your MBR will be supported by the new OS, but in your current situation you need to use the original SSD (or similar).

 

[vaalbara]

A side note. If I understand correctly:
- Kioxia SSDs are not being sold in the US market officially.
- SK Hynix SSDs are not being sold in the EU market.

 

[chrisT_fir]

A side note. If I understand correctly:
- Kioxia SSDs are not being sold in the US market officially.
- SK Hynix SSDs are not being sold in the EU market.

Kioxia is not being sold in US due to the market strategies between WD and Toshiba.
SK Hynix is available in EU (on few online stores), but is more expensive than in US.

 

[otosan]

Hi, sorry if this has been covered, I tried searching the thread but nothing conclusive came up.

I have a MBP Retina 15", Late 2013 Macbook 11,3 with bootrom 156.0.0.0.0 and I'm getting constant (multiple times daily) kernel crashes. Here is my Panic Log. Pioneer 2TB SSD has been installed for the past 2 years, model APS-SE20G-2T

Will this model be able to receive the new (>400.0.0.0.0) bootrom with an OS update, and is this expected to fix the issues I'm experiencing? Do I need to use the original SSD in an enclosure to make a bootable, or can I update the OS/bootrom directly using the current SSD?

Thank you for any insights.

If you still have the old original ssd, plug it back and perform update to BigSur. It will bump up your BootRom version.

If you no longer have it, the inpromptu solution would be run this command from terminal :

sudo pmset -a standby 0 sleep 0 autopoweroff 0 hibernatemode 0

 

[MarqueMarc]

Further to my previous post below, when I try to scan my Crucial P2 with Phison nvme flash id2, I don't get a full set of results. Looking at other members scans, I appear to be missing a lot of details to tell me if its TLC or QLC.

I'd be very appreciative if anyone could explain why I'm not getting a full scan. Could it be the USB caddy that I have the SSD housed in? Or can someone confirm from the scan I have posted that it is TLC or QLC.

Thank you kindly.

I was not able to get many information of SATA-drives installed in USB enclosures, so I believe you're right with your supposition.
If you really want to find it out prior to installing it inside you MbP, you should try a thunderbolt enclosure. Because thunderbolt is the PCIe protocol, you should get the information then.

 

[mclovely]

I was not able to get many information of SATA-drives installed in USB enclosures, so I believe you're right with your supposition.
If you really want to find it out prior to installing it inside you MbP, you should try a thunderbolt enclosure. Because thunderbolt is the PCIe protocol, you should get the information then.

Thank you very much for your reply MarqueMarc.

Unfortunately, I don't have a thunderbolt drive to hand.

I have compared my log from running the Phison SSD utility to that of other forum members logs. If you look at the end of my log, it says 'Bit Per Cell : 4(QLC)' whereas the members who have run the Phison SSD utility and have TLC, the log reads 'Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)'.

Based on this comparison, I am quietly confident that my Crucial P2 is indeed the dreaded QLC. Boooo.

The next question is what SSD drive would be best to purchase and install in my trusty MBP.

 

[MarqueMarc]

Thank you very much for your reply MarqueMarc.

Unfortunately, I don't have a thunderbolt drive to hand.

I have compared my log from running the Phison SSD utility to that of other forum members logs. If you look at the end of my log, it says 'Bit Per Cell : 4(QLC)' whereas the members who have run the Phison SSD utility and have TLC, the log reads 'Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)'.

Based on this comparison, I am quietly confident that my Crucial P2 is indeed the dreaded QLC. Boooo.

The next question is what SSD drive would be best to purchase and install in my trusty MBP.

4 I do also have the MbP 15" Retina (Mid 2015), I upgraded it with a WD SN750 (the 1st version with PN WDS***T3X0C). This is a PCIe v3 drive with TLC.
I also use this in an iMac 27" Late 2015 and an MbA 13" 2015 without any issues. Of course all of them with their latest possible firmwares.
Because this drive has been detached with the SN750SE, the SN850 and lately the SN 770, which are QLC or PCIe v4 drives, they are only found for higher prices nowadays.
That's why I checked in this forum to find an alternative.

If I would live in America, I might give the SK hynix Gold P31 a try. But over here in Europe, it is to expansive to get.
An alternative for European seems to be the Kioxia Exceria Plus G2, but its doubled sided and sadly also an QLC-drive.

Luckily I was able to find a unused SN750 2TB on eBay.....

 

[vaalbara]

An alternative for European seems to be the Kioxia Exceria Plus G2, but its doubled sided and sadly also an QLC-drive.

This is advertised as a TLC disk:

EXCERIA PLUS G2 - NVMe™ SSD | KIOXIA - Europe (English)

europe.kioxia.com

 

[MarqueMarc]

This is advertised as a TLC disk:

EXCERIA PLUS G2 - NVMe™ SSD | KIOXIA - Europe (English)

europe.kioxia.com

I am totally sorry, you are right: That, together with all the positive feedback to this ssd over here, makes the Kioxia the best alternative for the SN750 for me!
Don't know where I got this wrong: I even phoned Kioxia to find out that the plus drives are doublesided, but was not concentrated enough to keep this right in mind.

 

[mclovely]

Part 2 of POST #8,767 allowed me to confirm that it's 100% QLC! Great to have full confirmation, as that was driving me a little insane.

Check out my post #8,751 that is the explanation.
In addition, the new P2 with QLC memory has no DRAM. The old P2 with TLC had 1GB of DRAM.


You have two options to see if your P2 has QLC memory.
1. Install Windows on Boot camp and run this program. You can look it up there (see picture below).


Or 2. You look at your P2 for the second 5 characters (see picture below) and enter them here on this page (FBGA Code). There you will get a part number. Just search for this part number and you will know whether you have installed QLC or TLC.

If I would live in America, I might give the SK hynix Gold P31 a try. But over here in Europe, it is to expansive to get.
An alternative for European seems to be the Kioxia Exceria Plus G2, but its doubled sided and sadly also an QLC-drive.

I am also based in Europe but I can ask a friend to pick me up an SK Hynix Gold P31 from the US.

Would you recommend it, if so, I will get on it right away.

 

[otosan]

4 I do also have the MbP 15" Retina (Mid 2015), I upgraded it with a WD SN750 (the 1st version with PN WDS***T3X0C). This is a PCIe v3 drive with TLC.
I also use this in an iMac 27" Late 2015 and an MbA 13" 2015 without any issues. Of course all of them with their latest possible firmwares.
Because this drive has been detached with the SN750SE, the SN850 and lately the SN 770, which are QLC or PCIe v4 drives, they are only found for higher prices nowadays.
That's why I checked in this forum to find an alternative.

If I would live in America, I might give the SK hynix Gold P31 a try. But over here in Europe, it is to expansive to get.
An alternative for European seems to be the Kioxia Exceria Plus G2, but its doubled sided and sadly also an QLC-drive.

Luckily I was able to find a unused SN750 2TB on eBay.....

Exceria Plus G2 is using 96 Layer TLC Toshiba NAND. Not QLC

 

[heath_durbin]

WOW

 

[nicopulse]

Hello, I used SK Hynix Gold P31 1To in my MacBook Pro 15" Mid-2014 very well on macOS Mojave 10.14.
I used with kext SsdPmEnabler. No problem with this during 1 year.

This winter, I do clean reinstall with macOS Ventura 13.1, with OpenCore Legacy Patcher.
Ventura works very well.
I don't reinstall SsdPmEnabler because I read it was not necessary.

But sometime (1 time every 3 days) I have blue screen of the death (black screen). The mac reboot and I have this message under. Disk usage is 50%.

Do you know what I can do to remove this ?




panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff800d78d676): nvme: "3rd party NVMe controller. Loss of MMIO space. Write. fBuiltIn=1 MODEL=SHGP31-1000GM-2 FW=41062C20 CSTS=0xffffffff US[1]=0x0 US[0]=0x1b VID=0x1c5c DID=0x174a CRITICAL_WARNING=0x0.\n" @IONVMeController.cpp:6151
Panicked task 0xffffff9053783208: 202 threads: pid 0: kernel_task
Backtrace (CPU 0), panicked thread: 0xffffff90687080c8, Frame : Return Address
0xffffffe2b0dcbaa0 : 0xffffff800afeb31d mach_kernel : _handle_debugger_trap + 0x4ad
0xffffffe2b0dcbaf0 : 0xffffff800b159236 mach_kernel : _kdp_i386_trap + 0x116
0xffffffe2b0dcbb30 : 0xffffff800b148480 mach_kernel : _kernel_trap + 0x3e0
0xffffffe2b0dcbb80 : 0xffffff800af85951 mach_kernel : _return_from_trap + 0xc1
0xffffffe2b0dcbba0 : 0xffffff800afeb5fd mach_kernel : _DebuggerTrapWithState + 0x5d
0xffffffe2b0dcbc90 : 0xffffff800afeaca9 mach_kernel : _panic_trap_to_debugger + 0x1a9
0xffffffe2b0dcbcf0 : 0xffffff800b7e08cb mach_kernel : _panic + 0x84
0xffffffe2b0dcbde0 : 0xffffff800d78d676 com.apple.iokit.IONVMeFamily : __ZN16IONVMeController14CommandTimeoutEP16AppleNVMeRequest.cold.1
0xffffffe2b0dcbdf0 : 0xffffff800d7707db com.apple.iokit.IONVMeFamily : __ZN16IONVMeController13FatalHandlingEv + 0x141
0xffffffe2b0dcbe20 : 0xffffff800b7199a6 mach_kernel : __ZN18IOTimerEventSource15timeoutSignaledEPvS0_ + 0x96
0xffffffe2b0dcbe70 : 0xffffff800b7198b8 mach_kernel : __ZN18IOTimerEventSource17timeoutAndReleaseEPvS0_ + 0xc8
0xffffffe2b0dcbea0 : 0xffffff800b044e18 mach_kernel : _thread_call_delayed_timer + 0x528
0xffffffe2b0dcbee0 : 0xffffff800b045ecb mach_kernel : _thread_call_delayed_timer + 0x15db
0xffffffe2b0dcbfa0 : 0xffffff800af8519e mach_kernel : _call_continuation + 0x2e
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.iokit.IONVMeFamily(2.1)[2351626F-4F3C-3971-AAB5-08FCF53022E1]@0xffffff800d768000->0xffffff800d794fff
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleMobileFileIntegrity(1.0.5)[4E741445-0025-3DB8-8292-C7533F3C0917]@0xffffff800c592000->0xffffff800c5c0fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[752CD69F-309E-31FF-881C-2A22ACB6C0B6]@0xffffff800da00000->0xffffff800da2ffff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily(47)[EF0F8F2D-D40B-3B22-A3BC-8BB0145DA2F7]@0xffffff800da41000->0xffffff800da43fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily(2.1)[521B092C-AECB-357C-BE62-5E582EF058A2]@0xffffff800db33000->0xffffff800db49fff

Process name corresponding to current thread (0xffffff90687080c8): kernel_task
Boot args: keepsyms=1 debug=0x100 ipc_control_port_options=0

Mac OS version:
22C65

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 22.2.0: Fri Nov 11 02:08:47 PST 2022; root:xnu-8792.61.2~4/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 6B3374E9-7FD7-354D-886F-E995FAAC2CA3
roots installed: 0
KernelCache slide: 0x000000000ac00000
KernelCache base: 0xffffff800ae00000
Kernel slide: 0x000000000acdc000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff800aedc000
__HIB text base: 0xffffff800ad00000
System model name: MacBookPro11,3 (Mac-2BD1B31983FE1663)
System shutdown begun: NO
Panic diags file available: YES (0x0)
Hibernation exit count: 2

System uptime in nanoseconds: 305714861010871
Last Sleep: absolute base_tsc base_nano
Uptime : 0x0001160bc9b177a5
Sleep : 0x000115679ea79356 0x0000000052125f25 0x00011564e19fe561
Wake : 0x00011567de43e417 0x0000000fb4d60b4a 0x00011567c77a2042
Compressor Info: 15% of compressed pages limit (OK) and 15% of segments limit (OK) with 7 swapfiles and OK swap space
Zone info:
Zone map: 0xffffff805285a000 - 0xffffffa05285a000
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[macpro_mid2014]

The problem is the Bootrom version. You should be at 474.0.0.0.0.

Install the latest BigSur to update. Depending on your Bootrom version, you will need an original Apple SSD to update the Bootrom!

Another alternative is to disable hibernation!

 

[cen070]

Thanks all for the work and the posts! Just wanted to add one more data point.

I searched this thread and I couldn't find anyone specifically mention using the SSD that I had/got to work: Intel 665p (1 TB variant).

Based on reading this thread, it was expected to work because the 665p is very similar to the 660p. (Same controller SM2263) However, I just wanted to confirm for anyone reading in the future.

(As of writing this, there are better SSD options. However, I already had this SSD on-hand when I upgraded my primary laptop.)

MacOS version: Monterey 12.6.3 (21G419)
Mac: MacBookAir7,2 (13" Early 2015)
Processor: Intel Core i5-5250U 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM Version: 427.0.0.0.0
SSD: Intel 665p 1TB (firmware version: 002C) + Sintec long adapter

I also wanted to note for anyone thinking about using the Sintech long adapter, that in Jan 2023 the long adapter is the exact correct size and there is no bending or modification needed of the PCB to fit the adapter. I used the new Torx 5 screw supplied by Sintech, but did not use the EVA pad.

 

[chrisT_fir]

Hi Guys,

I was directed by a friend to upgrade my 13” MacBook Pro SSD with an OWC one, but searching information about compatibility issues, I found this forum.

First, thank you for your work and passion about the subject. This is an “encyclopedia”.

I’ve read many pages, but this is overwhelming and some information are history. Therefore, I’ve focused on first 10 pages on the subject and the last ones from the beginning of 2022 until now.

My MMP is:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro11,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2,6 GHz
Memory: 8 GB
System Firmware Version: 474.0.0.0.0
SMC Version (system): 2.16f68

With last version of BigSur OS

Apple SSD Controller:
Vendor: Apple
Product: SSD Controller
Physical Interconnect: PCI
Link Width: x2
Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s
Description: AHCI Version 1.00 Supported

APPLE SSD SD0128F:
Capacity: 121,33 GB (121.332.826.112 bytes)
Model: APPLE SSD SD0128F
Revision: A223321
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
BSD Name: disk0
Medium Type: Solid State
TRIM Support: Yes
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
SMART status: Verified

Free space: 40GB


I understand that OWC and other brands manufacturing replacement NVME SSDs for Mac AHCI SSDs will work PCIe 2.0 x2 and other NVME with an 12+16 pin adapter will work PCIe 2.0 x4.

My actual speeds with the SanDisk AHCI SSD are ~200Mb/s for write and ~400Mb/s for read. A little bit slower than other similar AHCI SSD presented here. Maybe is because of SanDisk and not optimized processes on my MBP. I’ve done only upgrades and no fresh install of the OS.

Upgrading the SSD I hope to increase the speed and the available space of my Mac and prolonging its life. I’m aware that the speeds will be around 1500Mb/s.

Found that FW: 474.0.0.0.0 solved sleep and hibernation issues with the old models, but the issue of power drain during idle it is not solved.

Unfortunately, for my mid 2014 MBP it is not possible to use extension ROM (NVMeFix and ssdPMEnable) to increase the efficiency of the NVME SSD, and I am interested to buy one of the best power efficient and low temperature operating compatible SSD. I mainly work on battery, I use sleep and hibernation functions a lot.

Since, SK P31 - most power efficient SSD, is not available in Romania and in Europe is too expensive and some other brands like Crucial switched to QLC, I had a look to other competitors.

Some 1TB, with DRAM, are still available in Romania:

• Corsair MP510, WD SN 550 and ADATA SX8200 Pro – seems to consume high power and to have high temps
• Silicon Power P34A80 – seems to be a little bit efficient than the MP510, SN550 and SX8200
• Kingston A2000 – read about some stability issues in the topic
• Kioxia EXCERIA – seems to consume less power, but operates at high temperatures.

I tend to order a Kioxia EXCERIA, but I’m not sure which is more appropriate for my MBP in terms of power efficiency and temperatures Kioxia EXCERIA Plus G2, Kioxia EXCERIA G2 or Kioxia EXCERIA.

What do you recommend? Did I miss something important?

Thank you in advance!

Thanks to your contribution to this thread I have installed Kioxia EXCERIA G2 with a generic NVMe M.2 to 12+16 pin adapter (clean soldering of the pins) on my MBPr 13" mid 2014 and is working as @otosan explained in the last pages (no issue with sleep, wake up and hibernation, no black screens).
I've made a clean install of Big Sur directly to the SDD in an enclosure, directly Time Machine from the original SDD and after that I swapped the old drive with the new one.
You can see the new speeds bellow and the Link Width is now x4.
(
Device Name: KIOXIA-EXCERIA G2 SSD
Media Name: AppleAPFSMedia
Medium Type: SSD
Protocol: PCI-Express
Internal: Yes
Capacity: 1 TB (1.000.204.886.016 bytes)
TRIM Support: Yes
Model: KIOXIA-EXCERIA G2 SSD
Revision: ECFA17.1
Serial Number: X2GBxxxxxxxx
Link Width: x4
Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s
)

I have one issue as expected for mid 2014 MBP - the drain of the battery when is on hibernation (about 10% in 10h).
Any suggestion to reduce the power in hibernation of the SSD?

I have also an issue that I was not expected to have it: my 2.4GHz wi-fi connection (which was working very well with the old SDD) is keep disconnecting or has very low speed. The 5GHz one is stable and working flawless. I so in some posts in this thread (in 2022) a complaint about that after the SDD changing (maybe MBP 2013-1014), but I can't find it . I've tried PRAM and SMC reset.
Do you have any recommendation for this issue?

Thanks!

 

[laclouis5]

Any update on this?
Ive got the exakt same SSD (Crucial P2) and have the exakt same problem So i also want to solve this problem.
If not the Timetec SSD is good, what SSD is recommended?

Sorry for the late answer but here is an update. I tried to install the Timetec SSD but I was not able to detect it in Disk Utility. I used the standard procedure: system up to date (Monterey), Cmd+Option+R recovery mode and then Disk Utility with "Show All Devices". I also tried to boot Monterey from an external drive and tried to clean the SSD connectors with alcool and reseat it several times without success. Thus, I'm still with the Crucial P2 and EBoxer for now.

I suspect that the Timetec SSD I received is deficient since it is advertised as compatible with the MacBook Air 13" early 2015 I'm using. For the following, I'll try the OWC Aura Pro X2 which is more expensive but is one of the most reliable Macbook replacement SSD. If this last attempt does not work I'll begin to suspect my Mac…

 

[balfa]

Samsung 970 evo plus 2tb with short adapter and macbook pro 15 late 2013 with big sur work perfect.