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slacktrace

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Apr 22, 2023
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How is your battery life and does it run hot?
I replaced the original battery when upgrading the disk. The new battery is only charged to 80%, so it's hard to compare qualitatively (didn't charge limit the original battery). In terms of battery life and temperature I would say it performs similarly to the Samsung disk.

And importantly, it hasn't failed once (on resume) for the last 6 weeks of daily use!

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I replaced the original battery when upgrading the disk. The new battery is only charged to 80%, so it's hard to compare qualitatively (didn't charge limit the original battery). In terms of battery life and temperature I would say it performs similarly to the Samsung disk.

And importantly, it hasn't failed once (on resume) for the last 6 weeks of daily use!

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Hi thanks for the reply, much appreciated. I just installed this drive with a clean install of Monterey... WOW, what a huge difference in temperature. My Samsung 970 EVO Plus generated so much heat compared to this. What is the monitoring tool that you're using?
 
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thorstenhirsch

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Now that I've bought the Crucial P3 Plus 4TB there seems to be a problem with IOPS under macOS. I see all your benchmarks about bandwidth, and bandwidth is not a problem, my MBP 2014 reaches between 1400 MB/s and 1500 MB/s. But there's a huge difference when it comes to IOPS:

Ubuntu 22.04.2: 330k/177k (read/write)
macOS Ventura: 33k/47k (read/write)

In both cases I've used fio with the parameters Google uses on their Cloud benchmark pages. For macOS I had to replace --ioengine=libaio with --ioengine=posixaio, because libaio is specific to Linux. Removing this parameter on macOS completely doesn't improve IOPS either. OCLP version is 0.6.7 and I did not forget to apply the post-install patches.

Any idea why macOS performs so badly? Even energy consumption is higher than under Linux.

edit: Also, I made sure that Spotlight wasn't indexing anymore when I run the benchmark.
 

steveOooo

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Are there any 4tb drives that would work in a late 2013 mbp 15"

I am deciding between KIOXIA - SSD OCZ BRANDED EXCERIA NVMETM GEN 2 2TB M.2 2280 (£115)

And SK Hynix Gold P31 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen3 M.2 2280 Internal SSD (£111)

What are the differences or which one would you go for? (Exceria has DRAM built in? Is this good / worth it over p31)

So 2tb is certainly better than 512gb so no biggie on 4tb.

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I currently have El capitan, I'd like to keep this built in (for adobe cs6, my 2010 macpro is my main machine, mbp as a backup, occasional use), could I therefore:

●clone the 512gb EL Capitan (using disc utility - restore) onto a USB drive / clone to the 2tb replacement NVME

●install / update to Big Sur onto the internal apple drive (thus getting the necessary drivers / bootrom)

●remove internal apple ssd (with big sur on it) and replace with the new 2tb NVME which has a clone of El Capitan on it?

Would that work or better to move forward and install big sur onto the nvme?

I could always boot of a USB drive with el capitan on it whilst the internal has big sur on it?
 

ItsHal

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Do most adapters work the same or could cheaper adapters affect the Nvme speed?
Took my adapter out to see what i'm using and this is the one.
 

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otosan

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Do most adapters work the same or could cheaper adapters affect the Nvme speed?
Took my adapter out to see what i'm using and this is the one.
Most of modern (recently manufactured adapter) would work just the same, just the thickness of the PCB, and the socket connector coating are slightly differ one to another.

just avoid the old green color one, and the one manufactured only for AHCI
 
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ItsHal

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Most of modern (recently manufactured adapter) would work just the same, just the thickness of the PCB, and the socket connector coating are slightly differ one to another.

just avoid the old green color one, and the one manufactured only for AHCI
Thanks for the info and help. reason I ask is
I'm using an MacBook pro mid 2014
Big Sur 11.7.7
Nvme Adata SX8200PNP 256GB
Just wanted to know if my speeds were correct. Or if the adapter was losing some speed.
 

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slacktrace

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Apr 22, 2023
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Hi thanks for the reply, much appreciated. I just installed this drive with a clean install of Monterey... WOW, what a huge difference in temperature. My Samsung 970 EVO Plus generated so much heat compared to this. What is the monitoring tool that you're using?
Great to hear that!

Think tool is called stats:
 
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Deus-Ex-Machina78

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Jun 10, 2023
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puoi consigliare un adattatore per montare un hd (Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB) su MacBook pro Retina15 metà 2014

Identificatore modello: MacBookPro11.3

Qualcuno di voi l'ha già usato?

La hd mi è stata regalata e non posso cambiarla

Il sistema operativo è Big Sure
 

André Adeodato

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Jun 10, 2023
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I tried replacing the SSD in my 2017 MacBook Air with a 1tb Crucial P3, but it wasn't recognized. I tried to boot from a pendrive with the Monterrey installer, I also tried using internet recovery and finally opening the terminal and listing the disks.

I was unsuccessful, the Crucial P3 was simply non-existent. I know Crucial was fine because I plugged it into a Windows machine and it was there.

The adapter was also fine as I connected an ADATA 256GB and the Mac recognized it. Now I need advice for another SSD model that works well with Macbook Air 2017.
 

ItsHal

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Jan 2, 2019
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I tried replacing the SSD in my 2017 MacBook Air with a 1tb Crucial P3, but it wasn't recognized. I tried to boot from a pendrive with the Monterrey installer, I also tried using internet recovery and finally opening the terminal and listing the disks.

I was unsuccessful, the Crucial P3 was simply non-existent. I know Crucial was fine because I plugged it into a Windows machine and it was there.

The adapter was also fine as I connected an ADATA 256GB and the Mac recognized it. Now I need advice for another SSD model that works well with Macbook Air 2017.
Few comments saying they had same problem with the same drive.
SK Hynix Gold P31
WD_BLUE SN570
Seems to be good choice people are using here.
 

ftaok

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Just finished upgrading my previously upgraded Macbook Air 6,2. I had previously installed a Corsair MP510 480GB drive and it was flawless for the 2 years that I've had it. Just ran out of space due to the new Canon R10 that takes really great videos.

I went whole hog with the SK Hynix Gold P31 2TB bought through Amazon. The first one was defective, but not right out of the box. I was able to install Mojave onto it, but something went screwy when restoring from my Time Machine backup. It just failed to be recognized. I checked it on a MBA 7,2 to see if it was my computer, but same deal.

Replaced it with a new one from Amazon, and the whole process just finished. The TM backup restored fine. Now the Photos library is rebuilding, but it looks like it'll go down as a success.

Here are the speed results of the new SK Hynix

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And here is the old Corsair MP510

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Pretty comparable, I guess.
 
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rockstarjoe

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I'm want to opt for bigger storage too, does this drive run hot and drain the battery?
Yeah, it is a little hot and battery life is shorter for sure. But it isn't terrible. Like I said, I was already using a 2TB Sabrent Rocket which is a great drive but very hot. So for me, not much difference between the two. In fact this Crucial drive might even be a little cooler by comparison.
 

André Adeodato

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Jun 10, 2023
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I've been reading and researching about upgrading from the original SSD and reliable and working brands and models.

I always read about the same models from Samsung, Sabrent, WD, Adata, but many of them are no longer so easy to find, as they have been discontinued or others are not available in my country.

Today's market is flooded with brands like Kingspec, Netac, Goldenfir, Walram and a dozen other Chinese brands. Has anyone tried these or are they not even worth looking at?
 

ftaok

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I've been reading and researching about upgrading from the original SSD and reliable and working brands and models.

I always read about the same models from Samsung, Sabrent, WD, Adata, but many of them are no longer so easy to find, as they have been discontinued or others are not available in my country.

Today's market is flooded with brands like Kingspec, Netac, Goldenfir, Walram and a dozen other Chinese brands. Has anyone tried these or are they not even worth looking at?
If your MacBook is your main computer and you don’t have a robust backup strategy, I wouldn’t mess with those random Chinese drives.

Using the adapter with an NVMe is already short of a hack to begin with. Using generic SSD is just not worth the hassle.

What country are you in? I’ve had great luck with Corsair on my MBA and my wife’s MBP. It’s only been 2 days on my SK Hynix, but so far so good. Both of those weren’t mentioned in your post.
 

André Adeodato

macrumors newbie
Jun 10, 2023
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If your MacBook is your main computer and you don’t have a robust backup strategy, I wouldn’t mess with those random Chinese drives.

Using the adapter with an NVMe is already short of a hack to begin with. Using generic SSD is just not worth the hassle.

What country are you in? I’ve had great luck with Corsair on my MBA and my wife’s MBP. It’s only been 2 days on my SK Hynix, but so far so good. Both of those weren’t mentioned in your post.
I live in Brazil. I live in a small country town. The brands Sabrent, SK hynix, Kioxia, among others that are much talked about in this topic, are only possible through importation, with receipt terms of 45 to 60 days, with taxes and with the same deadlines for return or exchange, if that possibility exists .

The models easily found here are:
Kingston NV1
kingtson Nv2
WD SN350 green
WD SN570 blue (with any luck it's found)
Samsung 970 and 980 (very expensive)
Crucial P3 (incompatible)
Crucial P5
Intel 660 and 670p
Corsair mp600

I found the Kingston A2000 1tb, which is my main choice, but with an abusive price of almost 200 dollars.

I already bought a Crucial P3 and managed to return it, but I don't want to make a mistake again. My priority is to preserve the battery that already has 600 cycles and increase space. Speed would be a bonus given the scenario.
 

ftaok

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Of all of the SSDs you listed, I only have experience with Corsair, but these are/were the MP510 in both 480GB and 960GB sizes. Great experience with both of them. I'm not sure if the 600 would fare the same as the MP510, however.

My priority is to preserve the battery that already has 600 cycles and increase space. Speed would be a bonus given the scenario.
Your speeds will be greatly improved over the stock SSD in just about every case.
 
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