You seem to be leaving out a very important fact that the display hardware isn't the only factor involved in the viewing of the display. Even use the burn in example...it was at 510 continuous hours on iPhone X, and 155 hours on Samsung's own models. All displays made by Samsung. The OS, other hardware elements and calibration have to be factored in.
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You seem to be leaving out a very important fact that the display hardware isn't the only factor involved in the viewing of the display. Even use the burn in example...it was at 510 continuous hours on iPhone X, and 155 hours on Samsung's own models. All displays made by Samsung. The OS, other hardware elements and calibration have to be factored in.
OLED DOES NOT WIN in viewing angles or perceivable color uniformity.
Hence why we have so many people complaining about tint/color shifting since iPhone X, even XS Max now plague with yellow polarization.
LCD wins overall for mobile device, especially consider burn-in guarantee for OLED.
People with slightly sensitive eyes also having issue with OLED due to PWM giving them eye stress.
During the stress test, all device have burn-in within around 24hrs. It just not very noticeable. iPhone X especially show burn-in much earlier than Samsung device. But in the end, it takes 510 to get extreme burn in for IPhone X, while Samsung at 155hrs.
For a average user who uses phone for navigation frequently, it's guarantee to have extreme burn-in.
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The fact that burn in is even a consideration in 2018 is a massive fail and huge embarrassment. Like I've been saying, welcome to 1994 technology.
Enjoy your ancient screen tech.
This is comical coming from someone defending a device with 828p resolution in 2018 that starts at $749
Spoken like someone who's never had an OLED TV. I had Plasma TVs for years ... would never touch LCD sets due to their limited viewing angle and the fact that, because I have a large family viewing from the different angles was a requirement. Plasma burn-in wasn't a problem as long as the set was broken in properly and we didn't do dumb stuff like leave it sitting on a channel all day long with a static graphic.
OLED finally solved that issue. No diminishment due viewing angles, no real burn in issues, significantly better colors and brightness.
We've had our 65" 4K OLED for a couple of years now and it's brilliant.
Even in the John Gruber podcast Nilay admits Apple LCDs are superior to all other OLED screens.
The things I call out as drawbacks to OLED disqualify it as being a good technology in 2018. LCD still rules the day, Micro LED will soon take over, and OLED will be a distant memory.
I’ve been using the X since launch and I absolutely love the phone. Love the stainless steel build and OLED display. Can definitely appreciate the differences between all these devices, displays, etc.
I’ve also seen the Max in person and it’s what I expected. Absolutely gorgeous device and the screen is amazing, especially the size.
However, I’m heavily leaning toward moving from the X to the XR. I mentioned in another thread but there’s a few reasons:
-I’ve always wanted a colourful iPhone, and the look of the XR is awesome. I know I’m giving up the steel band for aluminum to get colour but that’s a trade off I don’t mind.
-The display is Apple’s LCD with 326ppi. Apple does an excellent job with the LCDs they use (wide colour gamut, accurary, etc). Interestingly the XR has the same point resolution as the Max, but in a smaller package - so same screen real estate but more dense. Of course there is the trade off of moving from the OLED to the LCD (I absolutely love the OLED display in the X, but I’d also love to have that larger UI resolution with more real estate).
-The price. Where I am, including sales tax, the XR 128GB is $1241 and the XS Max 256GB is $1954. That’s over a $700 difference. I can’t bring myself to spend $2000 on a phone right now.
All in all the biggest thing is the XR excites me is the colour and something different looking - I remember during the 5s/5c launch I loved the look of the 5c and the shape/feel of it in the hand, but I had a tough time going for that model knowing the internals and camera were from the year before, and it didn’t have Touch ID. This year though I’m impressed with how much has come to the XR that the XS has: same internals, Face ID / X design, same camera with the Smart HDR (it loses the telephoto lens). Feels like much less of a trade off compared to the 5c vs 5s at the time. And I’m sure come 10 months or so later I’ll likely want to upgrade to a 2019 iPhone. I feel like it’s a good opportunity to have fun and go with something colourful.
I think it’s clear the XS/Max is a better phone, but overall it can be a very subjective decision as to why one would choose the XR instead.
I've used LCD on my phones for years. I've used OLED. OLED is better.
I welcome when that happens. MicroLED is a promising advance.
Ditto. Same TV here as well. Take any negative facet of OLED and make it the totality of the tech, and you have the fan club here. Boo LCD sucks because of TN awful Color and viewing angles, IPS clouding etc. For some reason those two small isolated negatives mean no LCD is good now. That’s science.
OK hows this: I've used and owned the X and spent a lot of time with the XS Max. I prefer the LCD in my 8+, and found the screens on the X and XS to not meet my expectations for a mobile display for the reasons I've called out.
Sounds like a well reasoned argument to move in your use case. Pity about r st of thread
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Used and owned for how long, a day? You are so anti OLED it’s surprising that you didn’t see any benefit to it if you actually used one. I also owned +, and don’t prefer it at all. Look at other LCD screens and wish they were same as X.
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Sounds like a well reasoned argument to move in your use case. Pity about r st of thread
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Used and owned for how long, a day? You are so anti OLED it’s surprising that you didn’t see any benefit to it if you actually used one. I also owned +, and don’t prefer it at all. Look at other LCD screens and wish they were same as X.
But that’s today. Last OLED phone was in 2014 and it wasn’t as bright as ones they make now.
I keep my phone naked and wasted $100 on the folio leather case lol . I would go for the XR if it had an oled screen. It’s the sole reason why I got an X after going back to Samsung last year with the Note 8
Nilay from the Verge? he calls the XS display out (sharing a similar OLED display as the X) as "one of the best displays available" and says there are zero issues with burn in with the X, another issue you keep mentioning (your source).
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/18/...-xs-max-review-camera-processor-battery-price
I can't comment on Micro LED, that will be great to see--but it isn't available on an iPhone yet, as we know.
He said that on Grubers podcast yesterday. I think he was referring to non Apple oleds. Ironic since Samsung makes them all.
♂️ lcd does not rule the day as even apple thinks so considering their $1,000 plus devices all have oled
If you really like a colorful phone,then yes XR is for you.
For any other reason though (excluding price difference obviously),X series are superior devices.
Complaints about tint issues date back long before OLED iPhones on this forum, so I doubt they're good arguments based on that alone. What about all the threads about IPS backlight bleed issues, pink tint, blue tint, on LCD iPhones and iPads?
There could be quality control issues...
One guy on Youtube posted his supposed "blue shift" issue on his iPhone X. You couldn't even see anything till it was far away at a weird angle that no one with half a brain uses when looking at their iPhones.
Arguments about PWM and Eye strain are the best ones, but not everyone even suffers from those issues.
Really there isn't any perfect display technology ATM...
Battery life. XR will last considerably longer than any X/XS (Max included). Not important to everyone, but certainly a valid reason for some.
What ? I’ve used the Note 8 to navigation and 10 months I owned it had no burn “extreme” burn in. If you don’t like oled that’s fine but don’t be spreading lies
Suckers ? I’ve owned
S2
S3
S4
Note 3
Note 4
Nexus 6
Note 8
iPhone X
None has ever had any burn in. You conspiracy theorists are the only one complaining. Don’t like it don’t buy it. No need to lie because that is what you’re doing. Would there be an issue ? Yes but day to day use unless you’re staring at a static screen all day you’ll be fine.
This posts is basically saying lower quality screen and no 2nd lens.
Imo everything else is an upgrade. Faster processor, more ram, bigger screen and the best battery life of any iPhone.
Also here’s the thing about that 2nd camera, due to apples programming, if you’re not in the required light settings the “2x” that I thought I was using is a actually just cropping or digitally zooming in on the first lens.
If you don’t mind a lower resolution, still good screen, and lack of 2nd camera you could could arguably get a major upgrade with a lot more storage than the iPhone X 64gb when it was launched for close to the same price.