SO, app continued to error out trying to get pre-order info. Web site started working so used that.
Natural titanium 256 Pro Max showed as arriving 22 SEP but when finished order said October 3-4!!! (We leave October 2nd for vacation so NOT GOOD)
Finished black titanium no problem and that is arriving 22 SEP.
Placed 3rd order for white titanium and that also is fine arriving 22 SEP.
Will cancel the natural titanium order once that's possible.
I would have been better off just ordering w/o doing the pre-order thing since the hold-up was getting the pre-order info. A new order was super fast anyways, so, lesson learned for following years.