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chfilm

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Is anybody considering getting a W5700X alongside their Vega II to add some beef and h264 encoding? Ot it makes no sense at all? I’m working with Davinci resolve and premiere..
 

straightMacin

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Is anybody considering getting a W5700X alongside their Vega II to add some beef and h264 encoding? Ot it makes no sense at all? I’m working with Davinci resolve and premiere..

I bought one to use along side my Vega II Mono. I got it to power more displays (I have a testing area in my shop away from my main workstation that uses a pair of Thunderbolt displays) and to have USB3 speeds on at least one of my XDRs.

I haven’t run into any issues with regards to GPU power with my workflow, but I imagine others have. I’ll be curious to see how those people benefit from this new card if they already have the Vega II.
 
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Dang, I just sold my 5K monitor because the 580X couldn't power three 5K monitors... looks like I'll be buying the 5700 and another 5K I guess. Now, to sell my 580X.
 

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Available standalone $1000.


That is a colossal waste of space in the machine. The WX 9100 looks like a way better bang per buck and use of space internally for my needs.
 

Aboo

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Anyone ordered the standalone W5700X MPX model in the US? I placed an order shortly after it was available and my shipping date is April 30-May 4.
 

codehead1

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That is a colossal waste of space in the machine. The WX 9100 looks like a way better bang per buck and use of space internally for my needs.
"Waste" of space in exchange for lack of fan, noise, no? You do say "for my needs", I understand your point of view. I'm the other way end—held out for something better than the 580X, but incremental cost, and of course no fan. "Quiet" is a huge factor for me. This was a good fit for me, I ordered (the system) shortly after it hit the store.
 
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tsialex

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I hear no noise from the whole system (MP + VII) with 90% 580+VII load at FCP transcoding in day time.
Noise is extremely relative. What seems noiseless in a home office during the day, it's a nightmare inside an audio studio.
 
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codehead1

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I hear no noise from the whole system (MP + VII) with 90% 580+VII load at FCP transcoding in day time.
But those card have no fan, right? My comment was to the "waste of space" W5700X, versus WX9100 with a fan. But maybe you're agreeing with me that the Apple design is quiet. Yeah, I don't think I'd pay this much if it weren't. Like tsailex said above, it doesn't take much noise to be an issue for audio recoding.
 

jasonmvp

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Noise is extremely relative. What seems noiseless in a home office during the day, it's a nightmare inside an audio studio.

It's also relative to the person using the rig. Some folks have hearing so sensitive (eg: me) that even the quietest of fans adds annoyance. There's simply no way that you're putting a fan-equipped GPU into a new Mac Pro and it's not making extra noise. I can assure you of it. If you can't hear it, that's great and I'm glad it works for you. I'll hear it, and that's no bueno.
 
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daveedjackson

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Anyone ordered the standalone W5700X MPX model in the US? I placed an order shortly after it was available and my shipping date is April 30-May 4.
I ordered as soon as release. In the UK shipping/expected is Delivery: 29 Apr - 1 May by Standard Delivery
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blackie36

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I ordered (in Australia) within minutes of the standalone cards hitting the store and got a delivery date of 27 April.
 

arock

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Noise is extremely relative. What seems noiseless in a home office during the day, it's a nightmare inside an audio studio.
That's true, but the VII in an audio setting works just fine since you're not putting load on it while recording audio. I have this exact setup (7,1+VII) in my recording studio. Other devices (notably - Eventide H9000) produce more fan noise - not that I'm happy about that. :)
 

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"Waste" of space in exchange for lack of fan, noise, no? You do say "for my needs", I understand your point of view. I'm the other way end—held out for something better than the 580X, but incremental cost, and of course no fan. "Quiet" is a huge factor for me. This was a good fit for me, I ordered (the system) shortly after it hit the store.

I have it. No fan noise. Machine is dead quiet, at least with my machine and in my environment. As always, YMMV.
 

flowrider

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There's simply no way that you're putting a fan-equipped GPU into a new Mac Pro and it's not making extra noise. I can assure you of it. If you can't hear it, that's great and I'm glad it works for you. I'll hear it, and that's no bueno.

My three fan Aorus RX5700XT is pretty quiet IMHO, in fact my Mac is silent, at least to me. BUT, if the Pro W5700X was available at launch, I would have bought it.

Lou
 

jasonmvp

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My three fan Aorus RX5700XT is pretty quiet IMHO, in fact my Mac is silent, at least to me.

And that's fine. The Mac Pro isn't silent to me. Not under load. I can hear those three fans when they actually start working. There's no way in hell a third party GPU with its own three (smaller!) fans are going to be quiet. Not under load.
 

ZombiePhysicist

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And that's fine. The Mac Pro isn't silent to me. Not under load. I can hear those three fans when they actually start working. There's no way in hell a third party GPU with its own three (smaller!) fans are going to be quiet. Not under load.

While I'm sure you know your ears better than I do, I doubt you know my system better than I do. And yes, it's quiet. Under load. Now it may not be quiet enough for the ultra sensitive ears, or for studio hyper sensitive set, but, compared to my 5,1, it's dead quiet. And im saying that my 7,1 with the 9100 is quieter under load than the 5,1 was at idle.

Actually compared to the 6,1 even under load, it's dead quiet in my environment where ambient noise is 34db (which includes the machine and its fans and other ambient whatever doing their thing). As always, YMMV.
 
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codehead1

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I think audio folks would agree, it's something like this:

1. We work with what's available and to our needs. (We put up with a loud fan in the expansion chassis of a big-buck Pro Tools system 20 years ago because we had to in exchange for that power we couldn't get any other way.)

2. Once we've reduced to a given level of noise, we don't want to go back the other direction. At all. And we'd prefer it keep going down.

There are fans in the Mac Pro, thankfully pretty quiet but I'll find out soon. But given that, adding fans to video cards just adds to that. "I don't even notice it" is not comforting to audio people. You remove the need for every fan you can.

When audio people read, "I don't even notice it being louder", they see, "it's louder."

My worst "noisy" memory: Paid big '80s money on an Emax (sampling keyboard) when it came out, loaded sound and OS from 3.5" floppy. They came out with a hard drive upgrade. I think it was another $1200 to send my Emax back to Emu for a shock-mounted 20 MB hard drive retrofit. I get it back, turn it on—buzzsaw. OMG, you couldn't even sleep the drive, even though it only needed to load a sound into ram on a preset change. What were they thinking. That was the end of using it for much, for me. (Later they put a SCSI connector on the back for external, but I was done with paying them fro upgrades.)

Pretty sure my wind-tunnel Mac Pro G5 Quad was the loudest computer.
 
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flowrider

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^^^^Actually No. From Apple's white paper written in February:

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Lou
 
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