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FaceID unlocks the phone but stays on the lock screen - the lock icon turns to unlocked. You go to your home screen only if you swipe up. It doesn't automatically take you to the home screen after unlocking.

Yep, which is the way I think it should be. But I wouldn't complain if there was an auto-unlock feature, for those that want it.
 
Trust me. The notch won't be there on the next iPhone iteration.

Hence why I'm sitting this one out.

I disagree - without the notch, there is no front-facing camera, and all the other cameras and sensors that make FaceID possible. I doubt Apple will abandon a feature that they worked so hard to implement and market. I believe the next iPhone X iteration will look exactly the same - and we may see a more refined design in two years. Apple has really shot itself in the foot by the precedent they've created with the iPhone X's design.
 
Technically, it can be even faster for both:

TouchID process: Lift phone to wake with finger rested on home button, press to open (or have it instantly opened if accessibility is turned on)

FaceID process: Lift phone to wake (it goes to an unlocked state instantly), slide up for home screen.

Sure both can be very fast.

However, the problem is, with Touch ID, my phone can be unlocked even still travelling from my pocket into the use position. By the time I look at it, it's already at the home screen. This means, the Face ID can never beat it.

Also, do you think it's easy to unlock with Face ID when you are running etc?

This is what I want to point out, in terms of technology, it's a huge improvement. But in terms of use experience, a bit going backward. May be not much, but I really can't see how it's a improvement on convenience.

P.S. I suddenly think about Halloween :D
 
Sure both can be very fast.

However, the problem is, with Touch ID, my phone can be unlocked even still travelling from my pocket into the use position. By the time I look at it, it's already at the home screen. This means, the Face ID can never beat it.

Also, do you think it's easy to unlock with Face ID when you are running etc?

This is what I want to point out, in terms of technology, it's a huge improvement. But in terms of use experience, a bit going backward. May be not much, but I really can't see how it's a improvement on convenience.

P.S. I suddenly think about Halloween :D

I think it'll be easy when running. I can also come up with a lot of use cases where it's not easy to unlock with Touch ID.

I get it - that's the single drawback right now. Not being able to lift the phone and be at the home screen. Instead of resting a thumb on the home button you'll have to do a small swipe gesture instead.
 
A lot of sites are very dubious about faceid, arstechnica goes as far as saying it sucks.

To clarify, Arstechnica's editor Ron Amadeo opinion is it going to suck. Like us, his opinion is based on how he feels its going to work but also like us has never tried it.

Two quotes from his article.

"I will admit I have not tried Face ID yet, but it's hard to imagine a facial recognition system that solves the problem of having to carefully aim a phone at your face." He goes on to say "If my experience with the Galaxy S8 is anything to go by, I suspect a lot of users will just opt to type in a PIN."

Now he could be absolutely right and it just downright sucks. Its his opinion and he's entitled too it, although I find it strange someone from Ars would be so adamant about this.....

Honestly think about it. He is comparing a normal multi-use camera that can identify a photo of you to a dedicated infrared camera, flood illuminator with some sort of dot projector all tied into some sort of machine learning neural processor.

What he is doing is no different than me saying TouchID will suck because I used a Motorola Axis (first phone with a fingerprint scanner to the best of my knowledge). Since they are two COMPLETELY different technologies they shouldn't be compared.

Samsungs facial recognition sucks because the camera has a slight delay. Its not a difficult assumption to make that FaceID's dedicated system will operate faster. Also Samsungs facial recognition zooms in which narrows the camera angle so you need to point it right at you. We already know FaceID can unlock at an angle from your face (before its aimed at you) that is why you circle your head when settings it up.

Now I'm not saying that is true or not but I think its a VERY safe bet all that technology packed into that one feature will be better than Samsungs generic implementation. The issue is, how much better? Because it needs to be A LOT better.

Also lets not forget its other benefits with silencing rings and keeping the screen from going dark when you are looking at the phone. Samsung has also done this before however I'm not aware of how good their implementation is/was.

We'll just need to wait and see how much it actually sucks or not. OR I guess we could continue to assume something we have no experience with or knowledge how it operates works exactly like things we already know...that makes sense right?
 
Was I the only one under the impression that FaceID would just mean, you pick up your phone, look at it, and it unlocks automatically to the home screen???

That's not how it works? Why do we also have to swipe up?

In surface pro you just look at it and the tablet gets unlocked. No swiping needed. Maybe use swipe after looking at iphone so the iphone don't get unlocked accidentally.
 
I disagree - without the notch, there is no front-facing camera, and all the other cameras and sensors that make FaceID possible. I doubt Apple will abandon a feature that they worked so hard to implement and market. I believe the next iPhone X iteration will look exactly the same - and we may see a more refined design in two years. Apple has really shot itself in the foot by the precedent they've created with the iPhone X's design.

They do this often with Macs. Make them so thin when new hardware comes out there isn't enough space for adequate cooling.
 
I am sure the police will love Face ID now. All they have do do now is just point the phone to your face, and it will be unlocked :eek:

Also, Hollywood special make up may able to help them to unlock the phone as well (as long as they can provide a photo for reference) :D
 
https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone-x/#face-id

From the linked page:
So smart it only works when you want it to.
For additional security, Face ID is attention aware, meaning it unlocks your iPhone X only when you look towards the device with your eyes open. That means Face ID can also reveal notifications and messages, keep the screen lit when you’re reading, or lower the volume of an alarm or ringer.

So it shows just 'iMessage' notifcations until you're looking at it, only then will the notifcation show you the content of the message.
 
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I am sure the police will love Face ID now. All they have do do now is just point the phone to your face, and it will be unlocked :eek:

Also, Hollywood special make up may able to help them to unlock the phone as well (as long as they can provide a photo for reference) :D

That is no different than them forcefully grabbing your hand and forcing you to use TouchID. Without a warrant both are equally illegal and evidence would be inadmissible.

Although not impossible with enough pictures an accurate three dimensional scan of your face is difficult to replicate without your face. In reality it would be easier to obtain and forge your fingerprint (been done) using TouchID. Especially considering a lot of criminals have their prints on file.
 
That is no different than them forcefully grabbing your hand and forcing you to use TouchID. Without a warrant both are equally illegal and evidence would be inadmissible.

Although not impossible with enough pictures an accurate three dimensional scan of your face is difficult to replicate without your face. In reality it would be easier to obtain and forge your fingerprint (been done) using TouchID. Especially considering a lot of criminals have their prints on file.

Then how about your friend pick up your phone and pointing to you? Of course, I mean making fun. But obviously it's much easier than grab someone's hand.

For normal person, if someone suddently point a phone into me, I should not react quick enough to avoid that (seems quite hard to beat that super fast Face ID :D). But if someone grab my hand, sure I should able to properly react.

Anyway, I am not trying to argue anything, but just think about that is already lots of fun.:p
 
Then how about your friend pick up your phone and pointing to you? Of course, I mean making fun. But obviously it's much easier than grab someone's hand.

For normal person, if someone suddently point a phone into me, I should not react quick enough to avoid that (seems quite hard to beat that super fast Face ID :D). But if someone grab my hand, sure I should able to properly react.

Anyway, I am not trying to argue anything, but just think about that is already lots of fun.:p

Of course we aren't arguing, its fun to debate the theoretical.

What you mention is a possibility and will likely happen to the younger generation and inebriated adults alike. However that is just a joke/prank albeit obnoxious as hell. You know who has your phone and you know who you need to get it back from.

However say you were passed out, asleep, coma, drunk, etc whatever. With TouchID I could unlock your phone easily (I think I mention this with a drunk friend earlier to call his finance) however with FaceID (and attention mode on) you would need to be awake. That is the type of situation where more nefarious activity could happen.
 
Of course we aren't arguing, its fun to debate the theoretical.

What you mention is a possibility and will likely happen to the younger generation and inebriated adults alike. However that is just a joke/prank albeit obnoxious as hell. You know who has your phone and you know who you need to get it back from.

However say you were passed out, asleep, coma, drunk, etc whatever. With TouchID I could unlock your phone easily (I think I mention this with a drunk friend earlier to call his finance) however with FaceID (and attention mode on) you would need to be awake. That is the type of situation where more nefarious activity could happen.

Sure Face ID is more secure overall, but more secure usually also mean less convenient. I bet 80% the time won't make any difference, but the remaining 20% will feel less convince than Touch ID. And it's up to each particular user to decide if that improved security worth to trade off some convenience.

But for those love using phone during bath, they may love the face ID :D (wet hand can't unlock Touch ID). Even though I prefer to keep those camera off when I am not wearing anything :p
 
You have to press it at least once

For the past several years all you have had to do is set your finger on the button. No pressing. It's a setting you turn on. That's why they removed having an actual physical button last year.
 
For the past several years all you have had to do is set your finger on the button. No pressing. It's a setting you turn on. That's why they removed having an actual physical button last year.

They removed the physical button because the Force Press mechanism served as a substitute.
 
Face ID is a total flop for me.

based on exactly 0.0 minutes of actual usage
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Was I the only one under the impression that FaceID would just mean, you pick up your phone, look at it, and it unlocks automatically to the home screen???

That's not how it works? Why do we also have to swipe up?

this is not an additional two step process. You are looking at the device anyway (to use it), so you are just swiping up
 
This was definitely what I was expecting. It's definitely odd that you need to swipe up after having your face recognized. I'm not sure if it's a hardware-related issue or software. But, hopefully, it gets fixed.
 
This was definitely what I was expecting. It's definitely odd that you need to swipe up after having your face recognized. I'm not sure if it's a hardware-related issue or software. But, hopefully, it gets fixed.

I can think of the scenario where you look at your phone but don't actual want to use it.

Without the swipe, how would you look at lock screen notifications?
 
I can think of the scenario where you look at your phone but don't actual want to use it.

Ah, that's probably the reason why. I know a lot of times people just look for the date or time and don't want to unlock their phone. This definitely would prevent it from unlocking to Home.
 
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To unlock a car mounted iPhone X during drive seems is also a big challenge now o_O

That's why apple needs to come up with the smart lock feature like in Galaxy. Auto unlock when connected to car bt. Or use voice password.
 
Or maybe don't use your phone while you're driving so people don't die? :mad:

I can't see what's wrong to unlock it via Touch ID and use Siri to manage my own things. I don't need to look at it, and the process won't seriously distract me. (On the other hand, with enter password or Face ID require look at the phone).

Using the phone doesn't mean that I will kill someone. A lot of drivers kill others without using phone.

Anyway, no matter what, people do using phone during driving is a fact. Apple make the phone harder to unlock is just increasing the chance of having accident, but not reducing people use phone during drive.

If they care about it, car play should not exist at all. Apple are encouraging users to use phone in their car. Of course using phone in car doesn't mean using phone during drive. But we know, most people get on their car is because they want to drive to somewhere, but not just charge and using their phone.

Of course, Siri work without unlock as well. But with limited functions.
 
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