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DanMan619

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Dec 30, 2012
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Would you wait for mini led? When are we expecting it now?

MiniLED likely will be on the 2021 models. So far at least, the signs are pointing towards whatever models they announce next week having the same designs/tech as the current models, just with the Apple CPU inside. Big design changes and new tech like MiniLED and Wifi 6 are likely being held back for the 2021 and on models.

I personally would love a MiniLED screen, but there of course is potential for first gen models with it to have problems. So i'd be highly curious but a bit cautious before buying.
 

liriel_

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Apr 10, 2020
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It's a pity about design and tech! I wonder when they release mini led if the difference between the two is a few months or a year.
 

ascender

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As we get closer to ARM Macs, it feels like we now have three pinned threads about upcoming MacBook Pros which are all discussing very similar things and asking very similar questions.
 

ThisBougieLife

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One thing I'm looking forward to in ARM Macs is an end to switchable graphics. I keep switchable graphics enabled because without it, my MBP gets really hot and battery life suffers but it seems like it never switches to the dGPU even in cases when it's warranted, like Google Street View. Street View is much smoother when I disable switchable graphics and force the dGPU to run, but then the computer gets hot and the battery life suffers. This is a problem that ARM Macs are going to completely eliminate. So for this (and other reasons obviously) I'm really looking forward to them.

(And yeah I could've or maybe should've posted this in the ARM Macs discussion thread). lol
 

Bob1985

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Sep 19, 2015
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Besides the obvious MBP 16" M1+ features of 32GB and better GPU, the two most important features to me would be:

- 16 full-speed CPU cores (I run a CPU path-tracing app)
- 2x PCIe 4.0 SSD - so two channels of SSD for a total of ~14 GB/s read bandwidth; min config of 2TB is fine
 

limo79

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Jan 9, 2009
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One thing I'm looking forward to in ARM Macs is an end to switchable graphics.
This is a good move since this was not ideal solution and generate problems sometimes. Maybe in case of MBP 16" and Mac Pro they decide to keep AMD GPUs however possibly it is much easier for Apple to add GPU cores, keep TDP and energy management at reasonable level and have on chip on PCB to reduce overall size. I believe new MBP 16" will be redesigned - much thinner and lighter than 1.8kg MBP 15" (maybe around 1.5 kg). I am going to wait till MiniLED panel and FaceID upgrade and redesign (November 2021 looks reasonable).
 

Think creative

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Jul 27, 2013
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Give me a 14 inch MacBook Pro (or air) that can easily export 4k footage for youtube, run any major affinity photo project easily, with at least 12 hours of my standard work flow (Scrivener app, music app, some of the AP work) and can run three monitors (1 5K, and hopefully two 4k) displays and I'm so in.
 

AttilaTheHun

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Feb 18, 2010
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Just a question the M1 has a GPU (video card) internal what kind because the MBP 16"run the video card GPU with GDDR6 or the HBM memory
 

John Calvin Young

macrumors newbie
Oct 30, 2020
13
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Raleigh, NC
Just a question the M1 has a GPU (video card) internal what kind because the MBP 16"run the video card GPU with GDDR6 or the HBM memory
Integrated into the CPU, like Intel's integrated graphics, but significantly more powerful/capable. Nothing yet released on Apple Silicon that competes with the high-end discrete options on GPU.
 

AttilaTheHun

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Integrated into the CPU, like Intel's integrated graphics, but significantly more powerful/capable. Nothing yet released on Apple Silicon that competes with the high-end discrete options on GPU.
Yes no info and I am watching this MBP 16" inter maybe the price will drop when they come with the new 16"
 

AttilaTheHun

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Feb 18, 2010
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This is a good move since this was not ideal solution and generate problems sometimes. Maybe in case of MBP 16" and Mac Pro they decide to keep AMD GPUs however possibly it is much easier for Apple to add GPU cores, keep TDP and energy management at reasonable level and have on chip on PCB to reduce overall size. I believe new MBP 16" will be redesigned - much thinner and lighter than 1.8kg MBP 15" (maybe around 1.5 kg). I am going to wait till MiniLED panel and FaceID upgrade and redesign (November 2021 looks reasonable).
I keep the Nvidea video on all the time no switching
 

jon08

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Nov 14, 2008
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My 2011 MBP is slowly dying and I'm on the fence whether to get a M1 in the coming weeks or will I regret it when the replacement for the current high-end Intel 13" 2020 MBP comes out next year.

Up until M1 was introduced I was pretty much gearing up to get the high-end 2020 13" MBP, but now that M1 has proven to be better in pretty much every aspect, I don't think I'd consider Intel anymore.

1. When the 2021 MBP replacement for the high-end Intel 13" comes out (presumably it will be a new form 14" MBP), do you think the price will remain the same ($1799) and that the base configuration will be 16GB RAM & 512GB SSD?

2. How much faster do you think the M1Z (or whatever it will be called) will be than M1? Is it safe to assume that it wouldn't be THAT much faster? Maybe 15-20% faster MAX?

I'm asking because if I take a 16/512 M1 MBP now it will cost $1699, which is just $100 less than the current high-end Intel version, which already comes with 16/512 by default. So next year if we can get a slightly bigger screen (14") and retain the price $1799 while gaining even faster CPU/GPU I fear that I'll regret not waiting! :/

What do you think?
 

Christopher Kim

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Nov 18, 2016
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For me, bottom line is there's so much we don't know yet. Except for the fact that higher-end MBPs are coming, and this was just the first wave.

Unless you *need* a new machine right now, I think it really makes a lot of sense to wait to see the full line before making a decision. Otherwise, at least for me personally, I'd really be tempting fate that if a new 13/14" high-end MBP and 16" MBP come out that has even better performance / features / design, we'll have the tinge of regret wishing we had waited.

We don't know what we don't know - and with a line-wide generational changeover, the potential magnitude of "what we don't know" is probably as big as it could be.
 
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vseera

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May 27, 2011
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I was waiting for a high end 13/14 MBP to go all in for.
Unfortunately, I realised that performance was really becoming an issue with my machine and I was very anxious about the keyboard failing too.
I decided to order a MacBook Air M1, for now to tide me over. It’s the 8/512 model. I’m hoping this model lasts me a year, till which all will be settled and I will be able to either easily sell it and upgrade to the higher end 14” MBP, or just keep it for another year and save my money and get the 2022 model.
 
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Serban55

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So, it is rumoured the 16" mbp Apple M1X:
-12 Cores. - 8 performance cores.
- 4 high efficiency cores.
-support up to 32 gb Ram
-4 usb4 ports
- Coming first on a MacBook Pro 16” unveiling as a press release.
 

Serban55

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Again leaks apple pro is not an leaker...he is just an user that makes things up with no inside info
This told us on his channel
 

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