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Waiting for 2021 MBP

Metrosey said:
Personally, I can’t ever see them releasing a 16 inch Air
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Well, I do. Using Intel it didn‘t make much sense because integrated GPUs were lacking processing power

The M1 though is fast enough, and efficient enough to fit in a slim case too.
 
The Game 161 said:
Would be too expensive for an air device I would say
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What would make it too expensive? Going by past form, it would cost +$100 over the 13” for an equally specced machine - so $1,099 for 8/256 with a 7 core GPU and $1,349 for 8/512 with an 8 core GPU. That’s perfectly normal for such an ultrabook, particularly given Apple Silicon’s performance advantage.
 
AgentMcGeek said:
Not so flawless it seems. Keep in mind some QA issues don't come to light until one or two years after release. And the MBP M1 isn't even a major redesign.

9to5mac.com

M1 MacBook screen cracks occurring during normal usage - 9to5Mac

There have been multiple reports of M1 MacBook screen cracks occurring during normal usage of the machines, with both the M1 MacBook Air ...
9to5mac.com 9to5mac.com
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Wow. I read the article and it's a little alarming that Apple doesn't cover this. I'm guessing none of these users have AppleCare+.

My guess is it might be a batch issue.
 
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Falhófnir said:
I doubt it, but if it did turn out to be true Apple have completely 💩 the 🛏️ with the 16" in this transition... For what is their most expensive mainstream Mac, 24 months is already a very poor update interval. Going beyond that would get ridiculous.
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To overcome these problems, I see the only two options: either the (new) MacBook Pro computers getting a new/actual generation of Intel chips (11gen or whatever is available) or Apple will be putting in the MBP (temporary) an M1 aswell.
 
opeter said:
To overcome these problems, I see the only two options: either the (new) MacBook Pro computers getting a new/actual generation of Intel chips (11gen or whatever is available) or Apple will be putting in the MBP (temporary) an M1 aswell.
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Yeah I think a 15" M1 Pro modelled on the 13" (same chassis as the 2019 15" but with only 2 Thunderbolt ports and the new keyboard) would have taken a lot of the sting out of the wait. Actually such a machine would be a good option to have in the lineup anyway if they could make it work at around the $1,499 price point or so.
 
Well I think this FINALLY might be the generation I upgrade to!

I've been on a Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 13 inch since 2012. It's been a FANTASTIC machine to say the least, but its getting slow, and the battery (even though it was replaced a year ago) is just bad.

The main things that have put me of upgrading since 2016, have been the loss of MagSafe, the Touch Bar and the terrible keyboard. The loss of HDMI and SD card reader also haven't helped.

So I'm hoping the new 14 and 16 inch at the very least bring back MagSafe and loose the Touch Bar, bringing back HDMI and SD card reader would be the icing on the cake.

I will admit I will miss my optical drive, I will miss ethernet, I'll miss repairability/upgradability and I'll miss the battery indicator!!

I won't be ready to buy till mid/late 2022 or even early 2023 so I might be in time for second iteration of the new design. I think I can limp through the rest of this year and possibly next year on my current machine.

Now given I intend to keep this next MacBook Pro for 10 years, I'm going to have to up-spec it significantly. I already am hitting the limits of 16GB of ram and have nearly filled my 2TB SSD.

So I will be looking at 32GB of ram + 4TB SSD at a minimum and thinking about more. What has got me stumped is whether to go with 14 or 16 inches. I've been a 13 inch user since the days of my Early 2008 White MacBook, but I see the attraction of the bigger screen real-estate.

The biggest downside to all this is going to be the cost. I spent AUD $1200 on my current machine.

If I go for a 14 inch machine, I assume its going to be at least AUD $5399 assuming prices don't drop

  • 2.3GHz quad-core 10th-generation Intel Core i7 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.1GHz
  • 13-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics
  • 32GB of 3733MHz LPDDR4X memory
  • 4TB of SSD storage
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English
If I go for a 16 inch machine, I assume its going to be at least AUD $6349

  • 2.3GHz 8‑core ninth‑generation Intel Core i9 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz
  • 32GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory
  • AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  • 4TB of SSD storage
  • 16-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English

Alternately I go even higher - AUD $8749


  • 2.3GHz 8‑core ninth‑generation Intel Core i9 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz
  • 64GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory
  • AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  • 8TB of SSD storage
  • 16-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English

Anyways that's a bit of a ramble. I'm really looking forward to what M1X/M2 brings! I'm sure it will blow my poor 2012 Ivy Bridge machine out of the water!
 
Metrosey said:
I think Apple hasn’t made a 16 inch Air because they use the 16 inch Pro to get people to spend more money.
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Unlikely tbh. There once was an MBP 15 without dedicated graphics.

We‘ll see, at least the M1 would enable it
 
oldmacs said:
Well I think this FINALLY might be the generation I upgrade to!

I've been on a Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 13 inch since 2012. It's been a FANTASTIC machine to say the least, but its getting slow, and the battery (even though it was replaced a year ago) is just bad.

The main things that have put me of upgrading since 2016, have been the loss of MagSafe, the Touch Bar and the terrible keyboard. The loss of HDMI and SD card reader also haven't helped.

So I'm hoping the new 14 and 16 inch at the very least bring back MagSafe and loose the Touch Bar, bringing back HDMI and SD card reader would be the icing on the cake.

I will admit I will miss my optical drive, I will miss ethernet, I'll miss repairability/upgradability and I'll miss the battery indicator!!

I won't be ready to buy till mid/late 2022 or even early 2023 so I might be in time for second iteration of the new design. I think I can limp through the rest of this year and possibly next year on my current machine.

Now given I intend to keep this next MacBook Pro for 10 years, I'm going to have to up-spec it significantly. I already am hitting the limits of 16GB of ram and have nearly filled my 2TB SSD.

So I will be looking at 32GB of ram + 4TB SSD at a minimum and thinking about more. What has got me stumped is whether to go with 14 or 16 inches. I've been a 13 inch user since the days of my Early 2008 White MacBook, but I see the attraction of the bigger screen real-estate.

The biggest downside to all this is going to be the cost. I spent AUD $1200 on my current machine.

If I go for a 14 inch machine, I assume its going to be at least AUD $5399 assuming prices don't drop

  • 2.3GHz quad-core 10th-generation Intel Core i7 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.1GHz
  • 13-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics
  • 32GB of 3733MHz LPDDR4X memory
  • 4TB of SSD storage
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English
If I go for a 16 inch machine, I assume its going to be at least AUD $6349

  • 2.3GHz 8‑core ninth‑generation Intel Core i9 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz
  • 32GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory
  • AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  • 4TB of SSD storage
  • 16-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English

Alternately I go even higher - AUD $8749


  • 2.3GHz 8‑core ninth‑generation Intel Core i9 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz
  • 64GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory
  • AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  • 8TB of SSD storage
  • 16-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English

Anyways that's a bit of a ramble. I'm really looking forward to what M1X/M2 brings! I'm sure it will blow my poor 2012 Ivy Bridge machine out of the water!
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Why not use a SaaS solution for storage?
 
Metrosey said:
Why not use a SaaS solution for storage?
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I like the security of having all my important data with me, and that this simplifies the backup process. That being said I do have a 2tb iCloud plan - with about 600gb of data stored in iCloud drive.

I have a huge amount of photos and home movies!
 
opeter said:
Because the chipmakers have problems. Like this:

Apple Supplier TSMC Says Global Chip Shortage Likely to Last into 2022​

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Apple Supplier TSMC Says Global Chip Shortage Likely to Last into 2022

Apple supplier TSMC today said it is doing all it can to increase productivity and alleviate the worldwide chip shortage, but that tight supplies...
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The article is from april. More recent articles state that the production of the chips for these computers are already in production and in fact will be pretty close to finishing the first major batch. They will get released this year, but supplies will be limited. So get that order finger ready when sales go online because it's a worldwide race to get on! We will be looking at 6 week to 8 week waits within a day I reckon.
 
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09872738 said:
There once was an MBP 15 without dedicated graphics.
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It was still exxy though.

I actually had that computer by mistake! Haha. I ordered it not really knowing what I was getting because it was a little cheaper, but sent it back to Applecare for repair and the computer was buggered so they gave me a new one, and upgraded it to the dedicated graphics processor for no extra money! Awesome! Thank you Apple. That was 2013 and it was around that time that I started doing intensive Keynote work on my laptop. I really lucked out.
 
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smoking monkey said:
The article is from april. More recent articles state that the production of the chips for these computers are already in production and in fact will be pretty close to finishing the first major batch. They will get released this year, but supplies will be limited. So get that order finger ready when sales go online because it's a worldwide race to get on! We will be looking at 6 week to 8 week waits within a day I reckon.
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You are probalby right. It was just a thinking thing I wrote ... The true is, the industry didn't really "recover". But maybe it’s all just artificially made so they can hold the prices. As is happening with the graphics cards.
 
oldmacs said:
Well I think this FINALLY might be the generation I upgrade to!

I've been on a Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 13 inch since 2012. It's been a FANTASTIC machine to say the least, but its getting slow, and the battery (even though it was replaced a year ago) is just bad.

The main things that have put me of upgrading since 2016, have been the loss of MagSafe, the Touch Bar and the terrible keyboard. The loss of HDMI and SD card reader also haven't helped.

So I'm hoping the new 14 and 16 inch at the very least bring back MagSafe and loose the Touch Bar, bringing back HDMI and SD card reader would be the icing on the cake.

I will admit I will miss my optical drive, I will miss ethernet, I'll miss repairability/upgradability and I'll miss the battery indicator!!

I won't be ready to buy till mid/late 2022 or even early 2023 so I might be in time for second iteration of the new design. I think I can limp through the rest of this year and possibly next year on my current machine.

Now given I intend to keep this next MacBook Pro for 10 years, I'm going to have to up-spec it significantly. I already am hitting the limits of 16GB of ram and have nearly filled my 2TB SSD.

So I will be looking at 32GB of ram + 4TB SSD at a minimum and thinking about more. What has got me stumped is whether to go with 14 or 16 inches. I've been a 13 inch user since the days of my Early 2008 White MacBook, but I see the attraction of the bigger screen real-estate.

The biggest downside to all this is going to be the cost. I spent AUD $1200 on my current machine.

If I go for a 14 inch machine, I assume its going to be at least AUD $5399 assuming prices don't drop

  • 2.3GHz quad-core 10th-generation Intel Core i7 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.1GHz
  • 13-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics
  • 32GB of 3733MHz LPDDR4X memory
  • 4TB of SSD storage
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English
If I go for a 16 inch machine, I assume its going to be at least AUD $6349

  • 2.3GHz 8‑core ninth‑generation Intel Core i9 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz
  • 32GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory
  • AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  • 4TB of SSD storage
  • 16-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English

Alternately I go even higher - AUD $8749


  • 2.3GHz 8‑core ninth‑generation Intel Core i9 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz
  • 64GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory
  • AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  • 8TB of SSD storage
  • 16-inch Retina display with True Tone
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard — US English

Anyways that's a bit of a ramble. I'm really looking forward to what M1X/M2 brings! I'm sure it will blow my poor 2012 Ivy Bridge machine out of the water!
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By late 2022, I doubt there will be any new Intel MBP left on offer, esp at 14”. Why sink money in an outdated hardware? 10th gen in 2022 will be two or three generations behind. If you need x86 computing in 2022, don’t get a Mac.
 
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Metrosey said:
Why not use a SaaS solution for storage?
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I was a big proponent of such solutions until OneDrive just crapped a crucial file of mine just now... I've been working on my own server at home (with DDNS for external access) for some time. Time to kick it into a higher gear.
 
AgentMcGeek said:
By late 2022, I doubt there will be any new Intel MBP left on offer, esp at 14”. Why sink money in an outdated hardware? 10th gen in 2022 will be two or three generations behind. If you need x86 computing in 2022, don’t get a Mac.
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My post was about buying an Apple Silicon Mac, I was just using the pricing of the current models especially in reference to the RAM and SDD pricing to estimate how much I would be spending on an Apple Silicon Mac with the specs I'd need.
 
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PeterJP said:
I was a big proponent of such solutions until OneDrive just crapped a crucial file of mine just now... I've been working on my own server at home (with DDNS for external access) for some time. Time to kick it into a higher gear.
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This is my fear! I know its old fashioned but I just love the most important things local.

I love my current laptop because everything is portable. Don't need any dongles, don't need any external HDDs. It's' an all in one transportable solution!
 
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oldmacs said:
This is my fear! I know its old fashioned but I just love the most important things local.

I love my current laptop because everything is portable. Don't need any dongles, don't need any external HDDs. It's' an all in one transportable solution!
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Yeah, it's also what I love about my 2TB 16". I managed to recover the correct version of the file from the Onedrive web interface so I'm good. Still, large local + cloud + my own server sounds like a plane
 
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