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Waiting for 2021 MBP
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$1799 is my prediction. Apple seems to be keeping the price the same as with the MacBook Air and 13” pro. The iMac is a good example as well. New design, new chip, bigger screen, higher resolution, plenty of other upgrades all for the same price.
And yes these Macs will most likely ship with Monterey. I’d even go a step further and say Apple will also introduce Final Cut 11 and an update to Logic at the event as well.
Is Monterey really looking like it’s 6 to 8 weeks ahead of Big Sur’s timetable?
Predictions don’t help you one bit. Why not just wait a few more weeks? Unless you like Playing the rumor and prediction game
I agree that's the most likely scenario, but depending on the planned fate of the current M1 Pro, they might part-cannibalise it by starting the 14" out at maybe $1,499 or so. That would probably mean either it starts with 256GB storage and 8GB RAM (halved from current starting specs) or the base model gets the M1 rather than the M1X.
I'm just thinking if the cheaper 2 port Pro is eventually replaced by that colourful MacBook leaked by Prosser, $1,799+ is quite a price hike to get one of Apple's 'Pro' laptops from where we are currently.
Sure I'll wait, but predictions could help me deciding if buy or not the new Huawei Mateview monitor before its offer ends (there is a preorder offer here in Italy).
e.g.:
1800€ - - > ok new monitor
2500€ - - > just the MBP
No.
I have one of the 1st gen 2016 MBP with the touchbar. I should have returned it. They keyboard sticks, the processor sucks, it gets extremely hot doing practically nothing. And for some reason it was not covered by Apple‘s service program.
I can‘t wait to replace this. But until now the M1 options just weren‘t for me. I need more RAM. If they offer a 14“ with 32GB I‘m in. I use external SSDs so wouldn‘t mind if it comes with 256GB standard even though I Have 512 now.
Not the very first version, but pretty close: the 2016 15“ MBP with the touchbar came with Sierra - but I believe it was 10.12.1 that came with it.
Again with the flat Earth proof argument? They did it last year with the MacBook Pro M1 13".
2nd paragraph... Because Apple doesn't indulge the fantasies of people on a rumor website.
You think Monterey is getting released at the end of September or you think the new computers are coming at the end of September? Big Sur was released early to mid November. I don't think we're getting new computers in September. The rumors put them at late Oct to early Nov. But who knows.
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Huh? You’re the one arguing that something is “normal” while failing to provide examples.
Wasn’t Big Sur required for anything with Apple silicon? That won’t be true with Monterey, unless there’s been no mention of it.
Regardless, 11.0.1 was out before anyone had an M1 Mac in their hands, and 11.1 was out only a few weeks later.
Which “fantasies”? The desire not to do mission-critical work while running the first release of an OS? Apple knows millions of users wait for later releases.
I believe we’re getting them in September.
Sir, this is MacRumors.
do you think that the thunderbolt channels will be split by "side"?
So if I hook up a 7 port USB hub in one connector on the right side.
And I if I need another one then should it definately go on the left "side"?
Is that still a thing with the m1s?
So if I hook up a 7 port USB hub in one connector on the right side.
And I if I need another one then should it definately go on the left "side"?
Is that still a thing with the m1s?
There is potential for the 16 inch to have an M1Z in it, while the 14 inch gets the M1X
Now that would be interesting. Based on rumors and leaks this far, it looks like the M1X will be in the 14”, 16” and the Mac Mini Pro. That being said, the Mac Mini and 16” MacBook Pro will obviously have more thermal headroom than the 14” which means Apple could give the M1X in those machines a little extra nudge.
The Benchmarks will tell us more. I’m thinking GPU power will be the main difference between the 14” and 16”. 16 core GPU for the 14” and 32 core for the 16”. Maybe the Mac Mini gets a choice of 16 core or 32.
Let's indulge your guess -- if computers do come end of September, Monterey won't be long after. How long would you like Apple to wait until they preinstall Monterey?
Also, what happens if you do mission critical work on an iPhone? Should Apple hold back the new iOS on phones they sell every year?
Personally, I think you're gonna be disappointed when computers don't get released in September and when they come with Monterey. But I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong.
I don’t think jk73 has an issue with if his computer has Monterey pre-installed as long as it’s possible to downgrade which should be possible as kind as Apple has shipped / has prepared to ship some of the new Macs with Big Sur.
I too am hoping Apple will release the Macs with Big Sur, since my primary use for this computer is in audio and audio interface-manufactures work very slow (but probably also very hard) regarding updating software and drivers so it could be a nightmare if the new OS breaks something.
I’m not sure what I believe will happen though. I do believe that, if Apple was planning to release these Macs earlier but they got delayed, that there is a much higher chance of Big Sur being the OS that comes pre installed on the first couple of weeks/months.
it could benefit Apple in the way that if there are issues it’s much easier to troubleshoot them if the transition and the redesign is the only changing factor but not also a new OS.
Last year was so different in the way that Apple decided to introduce the new Macs and the AS-transition into Big Sur rather than Catalina and anything else would have been odd since the Macs was a new platform that was going to be ready to be released when Catalina was on the way out and Big Sur was on its way in and maybe there are important features introduced that we don’t know about yet that needs or that at least will make the most sense in a new major OS release this year but we’ll soon see.
I can se why Apple would want to introduce Monterey together with new Macs as well but I don’t feel that it is good for anything but marketing but I hope that if it happens it won’t change or break too much.
Sorry if this is a bit messy, I started writing this reply yesterday but I fell asleep and finished it this morning.
Huh? If MBPs come before Monterey, then the MBPs won’t come with Monterey installed.
Apples and oranges.
Unless Apple breaks with tradition, it’s not possible to downgrade an OS to an older version than the one that shipped on the machine.
(I agree with everything else you said in your post.)
I'm on two minds about the delay on the new M1x/z 16" MBP.
I tend to be a quasi-"forever" buyer, in that I keep my MBPs for a long while - previous to 2017, I had a max'd 2012 13" MBP. And the mid-2015 15" MBP I bought in 2017 (at a good price) is still going strong with its 3rd party 1Gb SSD.
However, the thought of having similar keyboard, MagSafe and I/O connectors in the 16" would be an appealing upgrade, especially as I've been holding off the upgrade to [Monterey] edit: I meant Big Sur.
Also, and perhaps more important, I'd promised to cascade the mid-2015 15" MBP to a daughter who is toiling on a much older m/c.
So, hurry up Apple, pl do the biz in September as October/November seems an age away. Also, hoping (a) buying da ting for prompt delivery in the UK will be a doddle and (b) there will be no nasty surprises to its robust longevity as I'm happy to splash the cash in late 2021 with expectation that it will last well into 2026 ...
Now that might mean looking at top-end for RAM, unless there is a chance of that being upgradeable?
I tend to be a quasi-"forever" buyer, in that I keep my MBPs for a long while - previous to 2017, I had a max'd 2012 13" MBP. And the mid-2015 15" MBP I bought in 2017 (at a good price) is still going strong with its 3rd party 1Gb SSD.
However, the thought of having similar keyboard, MagSafe and I/O connectors in the 16" would be an appealing upgrade, especially as I've been holding off the upgrade to [Monterey] edit: I meant Big Sur.
Also, and perhaps more important, I'd promised to cascade the mid-2015 15" MBP to a daughter who is toiling on a much older m/c.
So, hurry up Apple, pl do the biz in September as October/November seems an age away. Also, hoping (a) buying da ting for prompt delivery in the UK will be a doddle and (b) there will be no nasty surprises to its robust longevity as I'm happy to splash the cash in late 2021 with expectation that it will last well into 2026 ...
Now that might mean looking at top-end for RAM, unless there is a chance of that being upgradeable?
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Exactly... But when Monterey is released they will. Your argument is that Apple shouldn't force users of a new computer to have to use a new OS. So, for example, if new macs in September and Monterey end of October, should Apple immediately start selling the new machines with Monterey or continue to sell with Big Sur and wait until Monterey matures a little? And how long should they wait?
Of course it's all for S&Gs because we aren't getting new computers end of Sep and Monterey will be installed on the new computers from the get go.
23 hours for the 14”
25-30 for the 16”
according to a source who contacted with Luke Miani
Any intel about the charger's configuration ?
Magsafe imbeded into the brick ala og chargers or separate C to Magsafe cables ?
I'd be pissed if my bricks went to waste.
Magsafe imbeded into the brick ala og chargers or separate C to Magsafe cables ?
I'd be pissed if my bricks went to waste.
Really? Isn’t it if the machine is released with Big Sur it’s possible to downgrade to Big Sur even if your specific machine is shipped with Monterey? I might have misunderstood how it works otherwise.
I‘ve been waiting for two or three days for you to list a bunch of times when Apple forced buyers of new MBPs to use the very first release of a new OS, and instead of providing such examples, you keep insisting that doing so is standard practice for Apple. This is getting tiresome.
But to answer your question, obviously, Apple shouldn’t start shipping new machines with Monterey until after the first or second update has been released, since this would make everyone happy. Buyers who want to update immediately can click the “update” button in Software Update, while those who want to use Big Sur until Monterey is more stable and/or compatible with third-party apps can do so.