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I've never bought anything from Apple on release day. Will they eventually set a release day, and then open up online ordering at 12 AM? If not, how does it usually work if I want the new MBP immediately?

Usually, the announce product at press event. during event they say when they are going to be on sale, sometimes later that day or a week ago later.
 
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I've never bought anything from Apple on release day. Will they eventually set a release day, and then open up online ordering at 12 AM? If not, how does it usually work if I want the new MBP immediately?
And usually the Apple Store will be pulled down shortly before ordering is ready.
 
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If rumours are true: What are your feelings / thoughts about high entry price of 14“ MBP?
Well we would getting a 10 core CPU, 16 core GPU both of which are very powerful compared to the 4 port 13" intel and of course the mini-led, 1080p webcam and more port options and a newer design.

I would say its worth it.
 
If rumours are true: What are your feelings / thoughts about high entry price of 14“ MBP?

Right now for me, it would be worth it. I'm on a mid-2011 13" MBA and still rock solid on Sierra, so over the course of the last 10 years it has more than paid for itself; effectively it has been $160/month for the past 10 years. If I can get that good of a performance out of the Silicon MBP, I'm all for it. And that's not even getting into features of the new hardware.

If I compare that to the alternative: my wife went Dell Inspiron and Dell Latitude for two laptops, and both died 4-6 weeks after their 2-year warranties expired, then went for 11 years with her 2008 15" MBP before getting the 16" 2019 MBP.. the reliability and durability is worth it. Hell, I can even compare that to my Apple IIe, which will be 40 years old next month and still runs. That's $2.90/month that I'm still getting a killer game of Karateka, Spy Hunter, Zaxxon, and many others on.

But I digress.

When I look at things over the long run, I've already paid the Apple Tax for Sandy Bridge, and it is still running (I'm making this post on it). If I can get just as long if not longer out of M1X or whatever the next Silicon is going to be in the MBP, that will be worth it.

BL.
 
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If rumours are true: What are your feelings / thoughts about high entry price of 14“ MBP?
Makes me wish I could get on with a 13” notebook. The M1 MacBook Air is ridiculously good value at the moment… I suppose I just have to be grateful it doesn’t sound like the 16” is getting even more expensive?
 
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Right now for me, it would be worth it. I'm on a mid-2011 13" MBA and still rock solid on Sierra, so over the course of the last 10 years it has more than paid for itself; effectively it has been $160/month for the past 10 years. If I can get that good of a performance out of the Silicon MBP, I'm all for it. And that's not even getting into features of the new hardware.

If I compare that to the alternative: my wife went Dell Inspiron and Dell Latitude for two laptops, and both died 4-6 weeks after their 2-year warranties expired, then went for 11 years with her 2008 15" MBP before getting the 16" 2019 MBP.. the reliability and durability is worth it. Hell, I can even compare that to my Apple IIe, which will be 40 years old next month and still runs. That's $2.90/month that I'm still getting a killer game of Karateka, Spy Hunter, Zaxxon, and many others on.

But I digress.

When I look at things over the long run, I've already paid the Apple Tax for Sandy Bridge, and it is still running (I'm making this post on it). If I can get just as long if not longer out of M1X or whatever the next Silicon is going to be in the MBP, that will be worth it.

BL.
The longevity is a bit of a redeeming feature but it still makes me a bit nervous to think of relying on a computer that’s 5-6-7+ years old! Having said that my mid 2015 is still going strong, it doesn’t feel it’s age so hopefully a 16” Apple Silicon will do even better!
 
Didn't apple say that they are going to give an option to buy applecare yearly beyond the three years of extended care one can purchase?

or did I misread that somewhere.

That would help me to keep a machine 4+ years personally. piece of mind.
 
Makes me wish I could get on with a 13” notebook. The M1 MacBook Air is ridiculously good value at the moment… I suppose I just have to be grateful it doesn’t sound like the 16” is getting even more expensive?
I love the M1 MacBook Air, but I really wish it had a bigger screen…. I’d love to see what a 15/16” version of the Air would look like as I’ve always struggled with the footprint of the 15/16” machines when not working at a desk.
 
I love the M1 MacBook Air, but I really wish it had a bigger screen…. I’d love to see what a 15/16” version of the Air would look like as I’ve always struggled with the footprint of the 15/16” machines when not working at a desk.
I feel the current 16"pro is perfect for working at a desk, and really enjoy using mine.
But yes, when not at the desk, it becomes a little clumsy. The 14 will probably tick all my boxes for a laptop if they can get the same specs as the 16.
 
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The longevity is a bit of a redeeming feature but it still makes me a bit nervous to think of relying on a computer that’s 5-6-7+ years old! Having said that my mid 2015 is still going strong, it doesn’t feel it’s age so hopefully a 16” Apple Silicon will do even better!

I get what you mean. I've spent the past 28 years running Linux on one machine or another, from a 486/SX (the one without the math co-processor) up to a VM, and buying new hardware to BYOB roughly every other year. That worked great until I started a family and realized that it isn't worth it for me to keep doing that, so the longevity of the Mac and still being able to get a Unix-like environment out of it was the best of both worlds.

By contrast, in January I finally tore apart my windows PC and rebuilt it, going from a Core i5-3570K (Ivy Bridge) to Ryzen 7 and from Windows 7 to Windows 10. With everything being in short supply, longevity has seemed to be the biggest commodity for new hardware.

BL.
 
I love the M1 MacBook Air, but I really wish it had a bigger screen…. I’d love to see what a 15/16” version of the Air would look like as I’ve always struggled with the footprint of the 15/16” machines when not working at a desk.
Yep a 15” Air would be my dream machine, and particularly now the M series chips give even the base machines plenty of oomph anyway. I get what you mean about the footprint, that was actually something I liked about the 15” Touch Bar models, though it was a tiny reduction in size on paper I thought you could really feel the reduction over a 2015. If they could carry that forward to a 15” Air (and I guess probably room to trim even a bit more off) it really would be the ultimate sweet spot.


I get what you mean. I've spent the past 28 years running Linux on one machine or another, from a 486/SX (the one without the math co-processor) up to a VM, and buying new hardware to BYOB roughly every other year. That worked great until I started a family and realized that it isn't worth it for me to keep doing that, so the longevity of the Mac and still being able to get a Unix-like environment out of it was the best of both worlds.

By contrast, in January I finally tore apart my windows PC and rebuilt it, going from a Core i5-3570K (Ivy Bridge) to Ryzen 7 and from Windows 7 to Windows 10. With everything being in short supply, longevity has seemed to be the biggest commodity for new hardware.

BL.
Yep I think it sounds more daunting when you’re at the start of the run than it does when you get this far in. I suppose the potential for random failures seems greater looking 5 years out than it does when you’re thinking I’m ok to upgrade any time now.
 
I feel the current 16"pro is perfect for working at a desk, and really enjoy using mine.
But yes, when not at the desk, it becomes a little clumsy. The 14 will probably tick all my boxes for a laptop if they can get the same specs as the 16.
For me it really became an issue whenever I was traveling with the laptop - it was pretty much unusable on trains, planes etc. My way around that would be to carry something smaller - an iPad Pro for example - so maybe that's what I do this time around as I really love that bigger screen.
 
Yep a 15” Air would be my dream machine, and particularly now the M series chips give even the base machines plenty of oomph anyway. I get what you mean about the footprint, that was actually something I liked about the 15” Touch Bar models, though it was a tiny reduction in size on paper I thought you could really feel the reduction over a 2015. If they could carry that forward to a 15” Air (and I guess probably room to trim even a bit more off) it really would be the ultimate sweet spot.
A 15inch M2 MBA?
That also comes in different colors?
That is lighter than a normal 15?
That has a slight reduction in footprint?
That still has no fan, but doesn't heat up?

Yeah. That is THE dream machine!

In saying that, I will welcome all the extra giddy-up in the GPU the 16 M1X is gonna give us. Plus 16 is going to feel like I have my old 17 again.
 
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but given the materials used for apple notebooks -- wouldn't a 15"/16" mba contradict the very "air" in the product name? more aluminium, larger battery, larger display => heavier.
 
but given the materials used for apple notebooks -- wouldn't a 15"/16" mba contradict the very "air" in the product name? more aluminium, larger battery, larger display => heavier.
heavier than the current 13" air? we dont know since a redesign is taken place for the next year ...that it will go thiner and lighter ...so the next M2 13" Mba will be lighter than the current one, and if they will ever make an 15" Mba can also be around the same weight as the current one...but i doubt Apple will go for a bigger MBA..or they could go for if they remove the 13" Mbp and stick with 14 and 16" and for the air with the 13" and the 15"
 
but given the materials used for apple notebooks -- wouldn't a 15"/16" mba contradict the very "air" in the product name? more aluminium, larger battery, larger display => heavier.
I don't think anybody was asking for a 16" MBA, but yeah, it def would contradict that somewhat! In saying that, the iPad Air line is no longer all that light. I think they introed both the MBA and iPad Air as being both thinner and lighter. Maybe for a 15 it'd just mean thin!
heavier than the current 13" air? we dont know since a redesign is taken place for the next year ...that it will go thiner and lighter ...so the next M2 13" Mba will be lighter than the current one, and if they will ever make an 15" Mba can also be around the same weight as the current one...but i doubt Apple will go for a bigger MBA..or they could go for if they remove the 13" Mbp and stick with 14 and 16" and for the air with the 13" and the 15"
You'd imagine the next MBA will be thinner and lighter, but who knows at this point. Have we seen any rumors on the redesign? I think there was one saying they would get rid of the tapering??? Pity. That's the best part of it!

As for a fan-ware 15" MBA being as light at the current 13" MBA. Geez, that'd be outrageously impressive!

It seems to make sense for Apple to go 13 and 15 for MBA and 14 and 16 for MBP but would a 15 Air cannibalise the MBP line? I'd guess yes.
 
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A 15inch M2 MBA?
That also comes in different colors?
That is lighter than a normal 15?
That has a slight reduction in footprint?
That still has no fan, but doesn't heat up?

Yeah. That is THE dream machine!

In saying that, I will welcome all the extra giddy-up in the GPU the 16 M1X is gonna give us. Plus 16 is going to feel like I have my old 17 again.
Yep, just a real shame it seems likely to remain a dream. I don’t understand why they are so resistant to making a full sized consumer laptop (Air or otherwise) it’s not like it’s a niche display size, most OEMs base their lines around 15” models…

Cannibalising 16” (and probably 14”) sales is one thing, but it doesn’t have to be totally bargain basement, they could probably get away with starting it at $1,449 if they omit a 256GB entry model - ($999 +$200 for screen size* +$200 for 512GB +$50 for 8 core GPU).

* based on what they’ve done with the two iPad Pro sizes, not the old 11/13” MacBook Airs.
 
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I think there was one saying they would get rid of the tapering??? Pity. That's the best part of it!
If they go thinner ,You cannot make that tapering design anymore because of the thinest part could bend so easily
Again, its just speculation...but since the speculation leads to this new thinner design, i much prefer a sturdy structure without tapering instead of flexing case like i had on the LG gram
 
It seems to make sense for Apple to go 13 and 15 for MBA and 14 and 16 for MBP but would a 15 Air cannibalise the MBP line? I'd guess yes.
Lets hope so, since i heard a lot of people that would love to buy an 15" Mba..i have my doubts but never say never
 
If they go thinner ,You cannot make that tapering design anymore because of the thinest part could bend so easily
Again, its just speculation...but since the speculation leads to this new thinner design, i much prefer a sturdy structure without tapering instead of flexing case like i had on the LG gram
Thinner?
I hope these things are at least bulletproof or I could easily break it with two fingers in one hand.
 
Yep, just a real shame it seems likely to remain a dream. I don’t understand why they are so resistant to making a full sized consumer laptop (Air or otherwise) it’s not like it’s a niche display size, most OEMs base their lines around 15” models…

Cannibalising 16” (and probably 14”) sales is one thing, but it doesn’t have to be totally bargain basement, they could probably get away with starting it at $1,449 if they omit a 256GB entry model - ($999 +$200 for screen size* +$200 for 512GB +$50 for 8 core GPU).

* based on what they’ve done with the two iPad Pro sizes, not the old 11/13” MacBook Airs.
I would like to buy an 18-inch MacBook Pro like the most people.
We are still waiting.
 
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