I would settle for a pink MacBook Pro right now. The suspense is killing me.
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I would settle for a pink MacBook Pro right now. The suspense is killing me.
Even if they reduced it to just a +$300 bump it would be a nice change =/
The upsell on M1 stuff right now is still very high though (+$200 to go from 8gb to 16gb), so I expect to see +$400 again though. FU apple.
I dont think that Intel Mac upgrades are relevant anymore for the reason you mentioned. The AS storage prices increase linearly despite the volumes doubling. So 16GB will $200 more and I think 32GB will be a $400 more.
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That's not what Big Sur and Apple said last year:
2 Release candidates for the Intel Macs last year. Keep in mind that they had to do parallel builds of Big Sur for both Silicon and Intel lines. Since they guaranteed the phasing out period of Intel CPUs in the Macs would be for 2 years, they would have to have parallel builds again this year.
EDIT: You said Gold Masters. My bad. That build after Beta 10 of Big Sur was the seed for the Silicon Macs, while there were still the two release candidates for Intel. They still may have that cycle. Regardless, with the bug reports still coming in from Beta 9 of a lot of functions not working, they wouldn't be ready for an event until that stabilizes.
BL.
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Yep having the RAM, CPU and GPU all on the same chip will definitely change things. Looking at the M1 Macs, we can see that Apple is definitely trying to keep the number of SKUs down which makes sense because each GPU and RAM option means another version of the SOC. Binned chips will help them increase manufacturing yields somewhat but no doubt they will want to keep the variations of M1X chips to a minimum. I’m thinking:
14”
Jade C Chop: 12 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Chop: 12 core GPU / 32gb RAM
Jace C Chop: 16 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Chop: 16 core GPU / 32gb RAM
16”
Jade C Die: 24 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Die: 24 core GPU / 32gb RAM
Jade C Die: 32 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Die: 32 core GPU / 32gb RAM
Jade C Die: 32 core GPU / 64gb RAM???
Even with those options, we are talking 9 potential versions of the M1X that Apple has to manufacture… Adding custom options impacts the entire SOC (other than the SSD options) which means we could see Apple limiting custom options for certain models to reduce manufacturing. It will be very interesting.
14”
Jade C Chop: 12 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Chop: 12 core GPU / 32gb RAM
Jace C Chop: 16 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Chop: 16 core GPU / 32gb RAM
16”
Jade C Die: 24 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Die: 24 core GPU / 32gb RAM
Jade C Die: 32 core GPU / 16gb RAM
Jade C Die: 32 core GPU / 32gb RAM
Jade C Die: 32 core GPU / 64gb RAM???
Even with those options, we are talking 9 potential versions of the M1X that Apple has to manufacture… Adding custom options impacts the entire SOC (other than the SSD options) which means we could see Apple limiting custom options for certain models to reduce manufacturing. It will be very interesting.
If the 14” MBP is going to replace the 13” MBP, which I think is likely since the Air is so capable, I think the 14” will start at 8GB while the 16” will start at 16GB.
I think something similar might be afoot again. Like I said, I'm leaning toward the last week in October for the unveil. Whether the M1X (or whatever it will be marketed as) & Intel builds are "in sync" is probably going to be irrelevant with regards to shipping this new product.
For shipping, no, I agree that it will be irrelevant. They will, however, need to have that final build done so they can flash all of the new Macs with that final build. This would then imply that all of the hardware is ready to go, and they are merely waiting on software. This would then mean that the beta builds and release candidates are all just to test functionality on old hardware, while Apple themselves test functionality on the new hardware.
With Big Sur, they already had a separate build that was seeded onto all Silicon Macs, while they still went with the release candidates for Intel Macs. They both had different build IDs, as 11.0.1 was the first release for Intel Macs, while 11.0 was for Silicon. Both, however, were released on 11/12/20.
That still puts us into November if that trend holds; However, I will state that I'm expecting there to be no new Intel Macs for this event, so all Macs this year should be Silicon. And if Apple is succinct, they would hold an event on 11/9, and launch Macs that day, and the release of Monterey to that Friday, or launch Macs and Monterey on that Friday, which would also be 11/12/21, while at that event say that that is the 1-year final warning for Intel Macs being sold, as that would be one year to the exact day for OS release.
BL.
November event? Please don't make me wait any longer... 😫
It doesn't matter. Delays to the shipments of the current MacBooks are correlated with the unveiling of new models, in all likelihood, but they are not 1:1 directly proportional. They are not showing the release date of the new Macs with the shipment dates of the old ones, it's just easy to see that production has slowed down on the old ones as they sell through inventory to get ready for the new ones.
I’m still betting:
Invites: October 19th
Event: October 26th
Preorder: October 29th
On sale: November 5th
Alternatively, we could also see preorders following the event with sales starting the 29th.
Either way, I really think we are at the finish line.
Invites: October 19th
Event: October 26th
Preorder: October 29th
On sale: November 5th
Alternatively, we could also see preorders following the event with sales starting the 29th.
Either way, I really think we are at the finish line.
Something to also think about. We are still in Q4 of Fiscal year 2021. If the earnings call on 10/28 is covering Q4, having an event then and so close to that call can skew analysts' predictions for the PC/Mac market in relation to their earnings that they won't have time to prepare for both, as an event would be 2 days before the call. What will help Apple, their investors, and business analysts, is to have that earnings call done and out of the way to focus on their newest products and let that drive into their Q4 revenue.
BL.
Same here. Held off upgrading a long time ago when I read about the keyboard issues. Then I decided it was too expensive, then when I could afford it, figured I would wait for the M# chip. Hopefully I will get another ten years out of a new MBP
Same here. Held off upgrading a long time ago when I read about the keyboard issues. Then I decided it was too expensive, then when I could afford it, figured I would wait for the M# chip. Hopefully I will get another ten years out of a new MBP
That's what I'm hoping as well. I mean, if we've both paid $1800 for our Macs (I got the mid-2011 13" MBA for that price), we're both looking at $15/month for how much we paid over the course of 10 years. We got a killer deal out of the lifetime of those Macs.
BL.
I'd love one in that new Apple Watch Green!
There was a patent not too long ago showing a special process to make aluminum in matte black while also making it scratch resistant. If that comes to fruition, we could have a nice matte black MacBook Pro.
Beyond that, there hasn’t been any rumors for the MacBook Pro colors. I would personally like if the MacBook Pros came in the same colors as the iPhone 13 Pros but that might be wishful thinking. As long as there’s something beyond the usual silver and grey, that would be nice!
I would *love* to get one in that Sierra Blue color! That would be badass.
8Gb as standard in premium notebook in 2021 is a joke.
Why apple is so greedy for RAM?
It's exactly what other brands are doing as well. Lenovo X1 Extreme, a typical pro laptop - starts at 8GB. You get that for €2450. It has a 16" screen, too, so it's comparable to the MBP 16 with 8GB which... doesn't exist.
Maybe Apple isn't being so greedy for RAM?
I don't think the 14" will start with 8GB. The remaining 13" Pro machines with Intel chips all have 16GB...