That makes absolute sense and is hopefully what they’ll do.
The new MBA renders the two-port MBP pointless.
The 13” MBP is now the only one with the butterfly keyboard in the lineup, surely we’ll see something new very soon???
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That makes absolute sense and is hopefully what they’ll do.
The new MBA renders the two-port MBP pointless.
The 13” MBP is now the only one with the butterfly keyboard in the lineup, surely we’ll see something new very soon???
Completely disagree. It will be a hugely popular option and will return to be Apple biggest selling MacBook model.
Would be nice, but I think that is a bit spec aggressive for the base. I think they will stick at 8/256. The middle tier would be $1799, and high tier I think is about right. Hopefully we find out soon!
I really think they should offer a 16gb model without needing to BTO. It is supposed to be a pro product but even the higher tier model with 2.4 ghz cpu comes with 8gb Ram. Plus, I can’t order from another store with discount because they don’t offer 16gb option. That could save me a lot.
Maybe, it was only a very rough guesstimate, I don't think they will want the lineup to suddenly start at $1,799 so I think retaining a model at $1,499 or so is quite possible. Then I was basing it on their behaviour with other models - they've doubled storage across existing lineups for the 16" and Air. The $1,499 model currently has 256GB, so I thought they might keep that price point but double up on storage, the $1,699 model is the same but +$200 for the 16GB RAM and then the $2,099 model is +$200 for the 1TB of storage and +$200 for the i7 (which might even be a little optimistic as the current i7 is a $300 option for either model).
Where you might be right is because of the other costs the current $1,499 model doesn't have (second fan, better speakers etc) so maybe they will leave it as an 8GB/i5/256GB machine but it will get the 28W CPU and dual cooling fan setup, better speakers, new display tech etc.
The upgrade to 16GB must be one of the most common BTO options - it is a surprise they don't have an off-the-shelf model which has it as standard.
Still holding out hope for next week, ready to get the 13 as 16 is too large!
Oh god fingers crossed for Monday or Tuesday, I'm working from home on my MBP and I want the better keyboard so bad.
It's the not knowing that's driving me the most nuts. Like for all we know we're not getting an update until Q4, or it could drop tomorrow. Wish there were some more clear rumors about the whole thing.
Let me ask you all this: Would you rather see a new MBP announced this week (or sometime in Q2) BUT it doesn't have the Mini-LED screen or would you rather wait until the new MBP has that updated display?
And follow-up question: If the new MBP announced in Q2 doesn't have that updated display, do you wait until end of year to see if the rumors are true or pull the trigger?
I honestly keep going back and forth regarding this. I almost got a fully-loaded 2020 iPad Pro until I was underwhelmed by the specs. I sold my 2017 fully loaded MBP 15" several weeks ago. So I have no portable machine, just a solid 27" iMac and iPad Pro 11". I am certainly antsy to get the new MBP 13/14", however, I am absolutely torn as to what I would do if there is a minor refresh just like this 2020 iPad Pro was.
13" with scissor keyboard, wifi6, up to 32gb ram, etc. - is super tempting and far from "minor"....BUT then again I can't help but wonder if that ~$3000 machine will be out of date by the end of the year if a Mini-LED 14" version comes out.
Look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts!
I hope that IF Apple is planning on releasing an update to the 13" MBP in Q2, BUT the Mini-LED technology isn't ready, at least bump it up to 14" and reduce bezels. That would make the sting of a late-2020 model hurt WAY less in my opinion.
And follow-up question: If the new MBP announced in Q2 doesn't have that updated display, do you wait until end of year to see if the rumors are true or pull the trigger?
I honestly keep going back and forth regarding this. I almost got a fully-loaded 2020 iPad Pro until I was underwhelmed by the specs. I sold my 2017 fully loaded MBP 15" several weeks ago. So I have no portable machine, just a solid 27" iMac and iPad Pro 11". I am certainly antsy to get the new MBP 13/14", however, I am absolutely torn as to what I would do if there is a minor refresh just like this 2020 iPad Pro was.
13" with scissor keyboard, wifi6, up to 32gb ram, etc. - is super tempting and far from "minor"....BUT then again I can't help but wonder if that ~$3000 machine will be out of date by the end of the year if a Mini-LED 14" version comes out.
Look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts!
I hope that IF Apple is planning on releasing an update to the 13" MBP in Q2, BUT the Mini-LED technology isn't ready, at least bump it up to 14" and reduce bezels. That would make the sting of a late-2020 model hurt WAY less in my opinion.
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New MBP this week with whatever screen they can squeeze into it. Just because it's not mini-LED doesn't mean it won't be the 14" size, they were able to use the same old LED screen tech and still stretch the 15 to the 16". It's just a slightly bigger cut of the same display. But even if they left the display alone, I'd still buy now.
I would not wait, I'm ready for that keyboard upgrade right now. The new screen tech is something I'd be happier to wait on, until second gen when they have sorted out the bugs.
Because at 100C chip is actually at the thermal limit which means it is degrading
Sooner the better for me. I don't think mini-LED is going to be anywhere near the Apple lineup until this time next year.
The very fact they've updated the Air keyboard already makes me hopeful there is an updated MBP coming very soon.
I just returned my windows gaming pc and now, I’m using my 5th gen Ipad for online ed. homeworks etc. It works just fine but I really need a computer right now therefore I hope they will update the 13” MBP this week. I dont really care what will be the changes for 14” model. I just want a proper keyboard, better cpu and graphics, better storage option.
exactly this, MBP 2019 is really overpriced for the amount of storage it offers
As long as we get a 14” with new specs and keyboard before September I’ll buy it. If Mini-Led hasn’t been announced by then and without strong rumours I’ll won’t wait but if we’re getting strong rumours about it being imminent then I’d consider waiting
They really struggled with the 15" which is a larger machine either way - I suppose it depends on if the 28W (vs 45W) CPUs leaves enough extra thermal headroom to squeeze one in without running into the same issues that hamstrung the 15". I think they can do it with the Razer blade stealth as that has open grilles/ vents on the bottom for airflow - but that stops it being a properly lappable machine which is one of the best things about the MBP design.
No mbp today
Apple never launches products on monday (except when there is a keynote like WWDC).
No mbp today
I was just going to write the same thing when your new post came up!
Rarely do they release/announce stuff on a Monday. So there is still hope for the week!
Zero chance. The Razer Stealth is a very compromised design right now, which they can do because they can market it purely as a gaming ultrabook. The GTX 1650 Max Q is a pretty poor performer - it can only run modern titles like RDR2 at 30 FPS with low settings. Other games like Destiny it gets up to 50-60 FPS, sure. But again, the design is very poor for general use. The GPU sucks up battery life hard, it averages something like 5 hours on a good day (and that's with only a 1080P screen). The GPU also starves the CPU for power since the system is power limited - I saw some tests where the CPU was only left with 5-10W while the GPU was in use. There are the thermal limitations as well.
So, you have a GPU with still relatively poor performance, terrible battery life, power starved CPU, difficult thermal management. It's nice in theory but the Iris Plus graphics on board Ice Lake are just a far superior solution for that chassis size and the thermal/power/battery restrictions.
Or in Jurassic Park terms, just because they could, doesn't mean that they should.
Thanks! All very interesting as I'm learning about this! I am kind of wondering if I can simplify my computing life!! I have a lightweight Surface Pro 6 I use daily for travelling and work. That's used for standard MS Office, potentially quite large Excel spreadsheets.
I also have a desktop with a GTX 1060 6GB in the garage that I use to Zwift on as well as a very old AMD Radeon 7400HD (but CPU/memory good) on a HP Envy Phoenix in my study I use for editing videos etc.
Was musing if I can reduce 3 to 1 device, doesn't seem like I can as to can't get the graphics performance in something light enough to travel daily on trains etc.
Not right now, no. If you want decent gaming performance and video editing, you're really looking at a 15-16" size chassis right now, running a 45W CPU instead of a 15-28W CPU. Everything is getting smaller and more power efficient over time, but for current offerings, if you want something both graphically powerful and portable, you need to go a little bigger than the 13". Or, get a 13" and only game when you're at a desk with an eGPU.
Kek.
Nobody has seen the 14 inch https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ROG-Zephyrus-G14/ Asus G14 laptop, eh?
8 core/16 thread Ryzen 4000 series APU alongside RTX 2060 with 120 Hz display in a 14 inch package.
Of course there is possibility of making this happen. Laptops like Razer Stealth are and will be compromised because Intel CPUs are drawing way too much power which hingers the cooling capabilities of ALL Intel CPU based laptops. Look no further than on Apple laptops and how much they throttle.