People are putting way too much hopes, and dreams into ARM architecture tackling desktop stuff.
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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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I’m sure people would have said similar things when iPad was first released with the A4 I think we should wait and see before making pre judgements
Have you actually checked the differences between iOS and MacOS? Have you actually checked the differences in software complexity between iOS and Mac?
Have you actually looked at latest benchmarks between latest and greatest ARM chips versus x86 chips?
Becuase I have. Graviton v2 which is the fastest ARM chip on the planet is still losing on average to Rome. By over 50%.
The only place where ARM is good at this point is lightly threaded workloads, everywhere when you high scalability, high coherency, highly threaded workloads ARM CPUs choke like 15 year boy before its crush. Heck, in those lightly threaded workloads it even beats Intel and AMD.
WHICH IS WHY APPLE ON iOS ACHIEVES SUCH PERFORMANCE!
Give it anything highly threaded and it will be absolutely the same situation as other ARM chips.
Yes the transition will have been a long time in the works, and I think this would be the problem for AMD Macs. Apple would have to 100% commit to them over Intel or Arm for the Mac Platform, and make all the tweaks and optimisations to ensure the chips raw performance is translated into a smooth and bug free MacOS experience. That takes time to do, and unless Apple have had access to these chips for over a year, I don't think we're seeing anything with them in this year.
I agree. Considering there has been rumours of arm since the 2011 MacBook Air I’m presuming they have been testing arm for at least that long. They’ll have it very well optimised and although it may take 2-3 years to iron out any hiccups and may be a pain for many to begin with I think in the long run it will be a worthwhile move. I understand that people say arm isn’t designed for the tasks macs are used for but I’m confident that Apple wouldn’t make the move if they at the very least couldn’t match intel performance
I presume nobody has read latest take on ARM Mac from Jean-Louis Gassee: https://mondaynote.com/arm-ed-mac-we-have-an-answer-545a20419a46
Ill post the same thing in ARM discussion.
IMO. ARM with all of its drawbacks makes only sense in entry level, fanless design, that is APPLE SERVICES ACCESS ONLY device. A Chromebook Competitor.
It will happen in MacBook. But there is very, very long road awaiting us if we will ever going to see MacBook Pro's and stuff like Mac Pro on ARM.
There’s been leaked photos of iPhone 9/SE 2 cases with retailers being told not to display them until April 5th. This could mean a release or announcement sometime this week. Hopefully the new MacBook Pro will be announced at the same time 🤞🏻
Other companies are performing mini thermal miracles, so yeah, a lot of us got our hopes up. That quad core MBA would have been an instant purchase for me w/o these thermal issues, simply because I loathe the touchbar that much.
So, there was this post for an iphone 9 case meaning to be in shop's inventory by April 5th. It's pretty fair to predict that the phone will be announced this week as a result. Is it possible that Apple will announce the MBP alongside it? I can't remember if Apple announces these things in multiples when theres no official event.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Yes. Since the so called March event was originally planned on March 31 followed by product availability in early April. So yes the updated MBP 13” could be announced this week too.
Well, I agree the overall MBP transition will probably take longer, yes, as it's tied up with the software ecosystem transition much more than a MBA like device. Ultimately though, they might well push one out quite early in the process just as a proof of concept, developer tool, or so their chips don't get pigeonholed as the 'low power' option. That's a perception they obviously need to break, and coming out with something that smokes an Intel MBP (assuming they have such a chip behind the scenes) would be the way to do it. If they have one ready with a fully polished version of Final Cut, Xcode, Logic Pro etc, plus just a handful of 3rd party apps that's still quite a useful machine for a good chunk of people doing video editing.
From a product perspective, it only makes sense to retire the 13 inches MBP.
Their product line would be much more streamlined:
- 13 inch MBA: Cheap (for Apple standards), sufficiently powerful Quad core cpu options, no touchbar, small/light form factor
- 14 inch MBP: More powerful 4/6cores with better screens for content creators that are on the go
- 16 inch MBP: bigger screen real estate, 8 core options and discrete GPU
Their product line would be much more streamlined:
- 13 inch MBA: Cheap (for Apple standards), sufficiently powerful Quad core cpu options, no touchbar, small/light form factor
- 14 inch MBP: More powerful 4/6cores with better screens for content creators that are on the go
- 16 inch MBP: bigger screen real estate, 8 core options and discrete GPU
smart move, they did not need to spend money and change the marketing material, if they just stick to the original timeline 👍🙂
Cmon, release the 14" already.
Recession or not, people still need new computers do their job. There's no such thing as a bad time to release a computer
Recession or not, people still need new computers do their job. There's no such thing as a bad time to release a computer
I've given up lol. If it's not here by Friday I'm going to order a Razor or an MSI laptop out of sheer desperation haha.
Hopefully tomorrow, However the rumour is that the new iPhone will be announced on the 15th so maybe then if not tomorrow.
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Man oh man April 15 would be horrible...I'm using my damn Chromebook waiting lol
😂 I feel your pain. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
I’m using a 5th gen Ipad for online edu. and everything else. I can’t wait any longer.
For online school I’m currently using an iPad mini 4 with a wrecked battery so it needs to be plugged in continuously. It’s a real pain but I’m holding out for buying the 14” Pro for starting Computer Science at University in the late summer