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Waiting for the 2020 MBP

Considering returning my 16" as I'm still within the returns window (I have until Tuesday to initiate my return) and waiting out the 13/14". I love the 16, amazing machine, but a bit overkill for my 80% of the time usage. I do occasionally need the horsepower (I am in civil engineering and need to use a cut down W10 VM to run a few things like Civil3D), but I would also not mind saving $1000CAD+ and dealing with slower compute times now and again...

Only dilemma is I have online courses in May and would then be down to only my iPad, which I'm sure wouldn't be terrible, but I also don't want to be in a hard place.

I'm figuring I would be going for a 13/14" base (which I'd hope/assume has 256gb storage now) and BTO'ing for 16gb ram (unless that becomes the new standard or a prefab upgrade). Hoping it's just shy of 2k CAD... My 16", even being a refurb was still 3300 after tax.
 
Just a thought but wouldn’t a Touch Bar be better accepted if it wasn’t a whole singular bar but many discrete programmable ‘buttons’ with haptic feedback when pressed. Perhaps only leaving a central larger bar area for slider functions.
 
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swifty168 said:
Just a thought but wouldn’t a Touch Bar be better accepted if it wasn’t a whole singular bar but many discrete programmable ‘buttons’ with haptic feedback when pressed. Perhaps only leaving a central larger bar area for slider functions.
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Touch bar accomplishes nothing. Everything you can do with a touch bar, you can do faster and easier with keyboard shortcuts. Using individual keys isn't a solution either.

Touch bar has to be the most gimmicky thing I have ever seen in any laptop.
Someone commented how people who really hate touch bar will buy MBP anyway. Well, I won't. Moved away to another brand. And even if I don't own another MBP my entire life, I won't purchase it because of touch bar.

It completely ruins my workflow (I'm a developer). It's obtrusive, annoying, and has no room in a 'PRO' laptop.
Put it in Air or something, I'm ok with that.
 
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I wonder if next week will be the week where we hear more and better trickles of this MacBook Pro on the horizon.
 
The BTO for MBP 13” with 4 thunderbolt ports in my country slips to 2 weeks. It was just 3 days yesterday. The BTO for 2 thunderbolt ports still 3 days though.
 
stuffx said:
The BTO for MBP 13” with 4 thunderbolt ports in my country slips to 2 weeks. It was just 3 days yesterday. The BTO for 2 thunderbolt ports still 3 days though.
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The 4 ports are nearly as expensive as the 16”, right?

Seems like I will just keep my 16 if that’s the only model being refreshed right now
 
Chompineer said:
The 4 ports are nearly as expensive as the 16”, right?

Seems like I will just keep my 16 if that’s the only model being refreshed right now
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It seems expensive because the base 4 ports 13” only comes in 8GB/256GB by default. I think the refresh will come in 16GB/512GB as a base without price increase just like they did to 16”.
 
stuffx said:
It seems expensive because the base 4 ports 13” only comes in 8GB/256GB by default. I think the refresh will come in 16GB/512GB as a base without price increase just like they did to 16”.
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Yeah definitely the 512 I’d have thought. Really hoping it comes with 16 standard too
 
Just a thought if the £1799 model came with 512/16 it would be much better value than the £1299 model if it only came with 8gb standard. As 512/16 would cost £1699 only £100 less for 2TB ports less, worse speakers etc so I’m doubtful they’ll include both 512 and 16 for £1799
 
I highly doubt Apple will go with 512/16 for default config. They want to sell user upgrades, and when you config your MBP on their store, you get really close to MBP 16, so then you are wondering why not just get the MBP 16. Basically, it's an up sell game. They have being doing that for decades, no reason to stop now.
 
If there's a 16GB stock model I would expect it to be the top end $1,999 model - 8/512 for $1,799 and 16/512 for $1,999. That fits with Apple's $200 RAM price increments, 512GB should be adequate for most people without BTO so probably no 1TB model.
 
Falhófnir said:
If there's a 16GB stock model I would expect it to be the top end $1,999 model - 8/512 for $1,799 and 16/512 for $1,999. That fits with Apple's $200 RAM price increments, 512GB should be adequate for most people without BTO so probably no 1TB model.
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Yeah it’s steep for a pro machine only getting 8 as standard but it’s Apple so they’ll do what they like. Still secretly hoping that they’ll make 16 standard on the £1799 model
 
Is wifi 6 a big deal though? Seems like something worth upgrading for depending on where your router is setup in home.
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I am going to get rid of my mbp 2015 15' with amd graphics and just purchase a temporary laptop while we wait. Thinking of grabbing a cheap thinkpad or something. Any suggestions?
 
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Is the MBP refresh supposed to come with Intel Tiger Lake or Ice Lake chips? Tiger Lake seems to offer higher clock speeds and much better graphics.
 
motime said:
Is wifi 6 a big deal though? Seems like something worth upgrading for depending on where your router is setup in home.
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It depends on what is your "bottleneck". In the library there is a freaking fast wi-fi, so i guess it is wifi6 capable according to speeds. And my macbook is a bottleneck, so it could be even faster.
While at home it is only 35 mbit/s, so wifi 6 in MBP will not make any difference for my use case.
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Is the MBP refresh supposed to come with Intel Tiger Lake or Ice Lake chips? Tiger Lake seems to offer higher clock speeds and much better graphics.
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MBP 13 would come with Ice Lake.
MBP 16 also wanted to have Ice Lake, but there is none of them for powerful machines. So they are going Tiger lake route.
 
Tech journalists reckon we will not get the revised 13" (14"??) without a bump in 16" spec. Assuming the 16" will be Tiger Lake, but anyone know if the graphics option can/will get any better? Current Radeon Pro card, even at larger 8GB memory, is only mid-level compared to the best. A friend just got a Dell BTO'd with an unadvertised Tier 1 graphics option. I am not interested in the graphics per se - but all those lovely GPUs mean 'shoulder bag Cray' and that is relevant to my work.
 
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