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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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doubt: in order to avoid incompatibility problems (especially with windows)....
In case two macbook models come out, wouldn't it be better to buy the model with an intel processor now and wait for after the transition for macbooks with ARM?
In case two macbook models come out, wouldn't it be better to buy the model with an intel processor now and wait for after the transition for macbooks with ARM?
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This info matches with other predictions. But I think that an ARM MacBook is not going to launch in WWDC. Maybe we see a first look in order to give some time to delevopers because they should work to adapt their software or that stuff. Other people talked about a Q3 or Q4 launch.
I agree, they might have emulation and Windows has that on it's ARM version but obviously not the ideal approach. I think they'll announce a move to ARM but won't launch until later in the year to give companies time to recompile apps. The development tools for that will probably be out around WWDC.
Depends on your needs but I suspect they'll keep Intel around for a while in the Pro machines. It might not be a case of replacing Intel but running two side by side at least for a while. ARM for the smaller more consumer type laptops, Intel for the Pro type machines. The ability to dual boot into other OS', some of the compatibility with programs, lack of Thunderbolt 3 on anything but Intel chips, etc.
I look forward to ARM but not sure I'd want to be in the first wave.
As another thought but has anyone considered Apple using their own GPU's in the Mac? They are doing good work there in their SoC's, I wonder if they might at some point have a T3 type chip for their Intel Mac's which also includes a scaled up GPU based on their own technology. That could be power efficient and happily fit in the 13 / 14 inch laptop. Feels like that could be something quite unique for Apple to do.
That’s a tricky one depending on whether you want the 15W or 28W model. 16GB RAM will be £200 upgrade if it’s not standard on the higher end model. i7 will likely be a £300 upgrade. So you could be looking at anywhere between £1999 for an upgraded base model to £2299 for an upgraded higher end model assuming that the base storage amounts gets double and 8GB RAM comes as StandardCan someone tell me what you think the price would be for the macbook pro if it was a i7/16gb/512 ssd?
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I think at WWDC like the Mac Pro last year a type of ARMbook will be announced and ship later with all the developer stuff launching at WWDC. I think the Pro machines will end up getting ARM at some point nearer the end of 2021 alongside the majority of the Mac Lineup
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Although it looks more likely for a 13” I still really hope for a 14”. I think there’s not going to be any concrete news until it happens now in either 3 or 4 weeks today. Either way we’ll still get better processors alongside the new keyboard and a bumping of the base storage. Hopefully a doubling of the RAM in the higher end model too. Unfortunately if it is still 13” we’re unlikely to see the improvement in battery life or thermals that the 16” received and maybe no improvement with the speakers.
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Apple could be waiting for the mini-led to be ready and launch the 14-inch at the same time as the mini-led panels. All are speculations and I agree with BenConlin44: we won't know until the release.
there have been conflicting rumors:
- Macbook Pro 13 refresh
- Macbook announcement in WWDC
- Macbook Pro with mini led screen
On top of that, last year apple refreshed the 15 around this time of the year only to re-refresh it in November with the 16'.
I want to hope that the May refresh will bring a 14 inch MBP, June will bring an ARM notebook and in Q4 we will see mini led update in the 16'.
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Having said that, the fact that there are not supply chain leaks for a 14' MBP at this point, reduces the possibility of a 14' refresh in May
There hasn’t been any substantial leaks stating one size or another. Ming Chi Quo is reliable but his prediction was Mini-led later in the year with a 14.1” screen. Prosser although said there’s a high chance of 14” said its being referred to as a 13” refresh internally. Like others have said if there was going to be a 14” screen it would require a slightly bigger chassis and as we haven’t heard about this it looks unlikely we’ll get one soon
Can't they just have the same chassis as the previous 13' and reduce the bezels ?
Don’t think there’s enough bezels to reduce to get from 13.3 inch to a 14 inch screen. Considering they still need some bezel for the webcam. I think they’d have to make the laptop slightly bigger.
Stretching the 13.3" to 14.1" is a much bigger increase, in absolute and proportional reference frames, than pushing the 15.4" to 16" was. It could be we still see slimmed down bezels but it still stays in the 13" class range.
It could if it was a dell screen it Apple wouldn’t use bezels that are thinner than the 16” plus the bigger chassis allows for a bigger battery and other improvements. I doubt they’ll increase to a 13.X” display when they’ll have a 14” one at the end of the year.
The MBP has the T2 controller chip, so they could just mount the NAND Flash to an M.2 Card. But why? What laws do you speak of requiring standard components?
That’s what I’m thinking. The 15 inch last year was the last one with the old design. Releasing a 13 inch with thicker bezels after the 16 inch would be absurd to me.
I have a feeling it will be a 13" MBP next month. 14" will probably come later when the mini-LED panels are ready and be introduced with the updated 16". Apple will milk the old design as long as they can.
I also have a feeling the ARM MacBook will just be iPadOS in a MacBook body with touchscreen. With a more enhanced iPadOS. Just don't see how they can optimize OSX for ARM like they have for x86. iOS already shares a similar foundation as OSX. Might as well just keep updating iPadOS as the future OS for all devices.
Just some thoughts. Not saying this is how it will happen.
I also have a feeling the ARM MacBook will just be iPadOS in a MacBook body with touchscreen. With a more enhanced iPadOS. Just don't see how they can optimize OSX for ARM like they have for x86. iOS already shares a similar foundation as OSX. Might as well just keep updating iPadOS as the future OS for all devices.
Just some thoughts. Not saying this is how it will happen.
I agree. Both the Air and the current 13-inch look extremely dated. The damn laptops have *three* different bezel sizes as well. That’s always irritated me and set off my OCD. Apple is stubborn, though. I can see them updating only the internals of the 13-inch next month or June.
Gurman also said it will be the 14" not the 13"
The 13" will remain for the Air
The 13" will remain for the Air
I think most people know this but the real question is whether the 14” is coming next month or end of year.