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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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This is the big question and I can really see it going either way.
On one hand, it makes a lot of sense for Apple to update to 14" sooner rather than later. And I think the fact that they got the 16" out so quickly last year (completely replacing the newly updated 15" at the same price point) is evidence that Apple wants people to know they are taking the Pro line seriously again. It just doesn't make much sense to let the 13" languish for an entire year. I also think that putting in the new magic keyboard would take a slight re-design no matter what (as evidence by the slightly thicker 2020 MBA chassis). Would they really slightly re-design the 13" now just to re-deisgn it again for 14" in 6 months?
All that to say, it really worries me that there have been absolutely no supply chain leaks about a 14" yet. Perhaps coronavirus is making leaks more difficult as there are less peering eyes on the factories?
no need for the trackpad as an secondary screen, other has it is kind of irrelevant...i want more the trackpad to be an s-pen input (apple pencil)
Completely agree! I don’t think they’d go to the trouble of re tooling the current design to then replace it in 6 months. Keep in mind the 15” last year had the exact same design. However the worrying thing is the lack of leaks. Keeping in mind that the 16” was rumoured from Jan/Feb 2019. I’m hoping they rip the plaster off and reduce the bezels now.
I'm guessing the focus of everything internally is on the iPhone 12, which is no surprise, and we are getting tons of leaks on it. The MBP is probably just flying under the radar. It is, after all, a much smaller product with fewer people involved.
I doubt that. This would hardly be diffentiable from iPad, with all its limitations.
See the contradition?
An iPad-like book would not make too much sense imo; whereas an ARM based notebook with a full blown macOS does, provided Apple managed to take full advantage of the supposed ARM advantages: first and foremost a vastly better performance per watt ratio. Now, given under the hood iOS and macOS share the same underpinnings I take it as given that Apple has solved the problem software-wise. Question is if they managed to squeeze out enough power to take on x86_64. My first guess: they probably did
No, apparently the butterfly keyboard is so bad even the MBA2020 13” > MBP2019 13”.
The T2 can be optional for security protection but Apple needs to implement in a way that wouldn't messed up with third party M.2 nVME in order for respecting the right to repair laws.
Dell XPS 13 has a 16:9 screen whereas the MBP has a 16:10 screen. A 16:10 of the same diameter is about 10% taller (whereas the width is only 3% narrower). So the MBP will always have in one way or another a larger case than the XPS13, just because of the aspect ratio.
Yeah, despite the obfuscating FUD surrounding all these rumours, I'm a firm believer in a 14" with magic keyboard in May
Apple is known to spread several versions of the truth to make sure the real product isn't fully known before launch.I pray you’re right about the 14” it would be perfect. The new XPS 13 does have 16:10 I believe but either way it wouldn’t make a difference as there would be no way of implementing a 14.1” display in the current chassis.Dell XPS 13 has a 16:9 screen whereas the MBP has a 16:10 screen. A 16:10 of the same diameter is about 10% taller (whereas the width is only 3% narrower). So the MBP will always have in one way or another a larger case than the XPS13, just because of the aspect ratio.
Yeah, despite the obfuscating FUD surrounding all these rumours, I'm a firm believer in a 14" with magic keyboard in May
It is my understanding that all the data in the NAND Flash chips is encrypted, and that devices with swappable SSDs under the T2 chip (Mac Pro) would not be readable. If Apple used standard M.2, performance would likely suffer because the SSD (with its own controller and optional DRAM cache) would be connected to another controller, the T2 for encryption. The T2 sees only NAND flash, not PCIe or SATA based SSDs. And what right to repair laws have been passed for consumer electronics? Apple needs some sort of controller chip to run the touch bar, so they may as well integrate the SMC, Audio, Power, and Storage controllers onto a single chip, probably also with some video hardware and a couple of low power ARM cores. The T2 also makes a system incredibly secure because of on-the-fly encryption. I'm willing to live with my data under lock and key (as long as I control the key) in exchange for the chips that hold my data being physically removable and readable by somebody else.
Alright MacBook Air released iPad magic keyboard released iPhone se released.
Now it's time for the main event MacBook Pro 14 inch mini led ?
Hurry up apple ??
Now it's time for the main event MacBook Pro 14 inch mini led ?
Hurry up apple ??
Agreed, a 14' mini LED + Libpool lifting the league sooner would be a dream come true. YNWA!
You're probably right. The only problem I see are Apps. They need to be optimized for ARM. All of them. And companies like Adobe have issues just getting their software from 32 bit to 64 bit. Probably why they had to rewrite Photoshop for the iPad. Not all companies use XCode to write Mac apps. They just use it as a wrapper. So it's not as easy as clicking on a few settings etc.
The reason why I think it will be an iPadOS Macbook is how Apple seems to be shifting what the iPad is. As well as all the rumors of possibly XCode and Final Cut maybe coming to the iPad. I'll admit I could be wrong. And probably dead wrong lol. If it's OSX running on ARM, I do hope they can come up with a way to run OSX apps in emulation. The ARM chips might be fast enough to do it.
What are the rumors regarding how early a 2020 MacBook Pro could be released? I'm reading some things saying there might be just a refresh, others saying a redesigned 14" notebook, and I'm at the point where I need a new laptop soon and I really just want it to be updated regardless of how significant it is.
Rumors are all over the shop at the moment.
Media is saying a 13 inch pro is coming next month but they can’t guarantee it’ll be a 14 inch refresh.
they also said mini led pro might debut at WWDC or end of the year.
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strong possibility we could see some new MacBooks getting announced at WWDC going off this photo that Apple put out.
Or it could mean nothing ??
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I’ve just received my magic KB for my iPad pro and it‘s highlighting how all future MacBooks desperetaly need Pro Motion displays and Face ID. Things are just so fluid with this new keyboard and the advantages of the iPad Pro. 120hz is just a game changer. There’s really no going back!
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Here's my interpretation:
"hello" = new iMac
"Apple logo" = new MacBooks (probably 13")
"WWDC" = obviously WWDC itself
"20/20" = the colours suggest to me fun, maybe low-cost iPad?
Missing design across the bottom = This is a hard one to figure out. My best guess is that Tim said no to the label "We're going ARM, bitches"
Not so sure about that. Under the hood the IDEs use Xcode; so as long as API are the same it should not be much of a hassle. I believe not too much platform specific (i.e. processor specific) code is around these days.
Back then not only was it a processor transition, but also a toolchain / framework transition, the latter being much more difficult in particular from third party developer‘s viewpoints. This time, its neither toolchain nor framework transition, emulation therefore probably not even required.
If you‘re using VMs a lot you‘re screwed though
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New leak for the 2021 arm MacBook.
The arm chip is a absolute screamer ??
9to5mac.com
The arm chip is a absolute screamer ??
Bloomberg: Apple to release first ARM Mac in 2021 with 5nm 12-core Apple processor - 9to5Mac
Apple is set to release its first Mac based on a custom ARM chip next year, according to Bloomberg. This...
9to5mac.com
Rumours for laptops never seem to come out much in advance due to the must smaller supply chain involved and lack of things like leaks from third party case suppliers. So its entirely feasible we’d get 24/48 hours ”notice” from a proven leaker.
It just makes no sense for the 13” to be sitting there as the only laptop with the butterfly keyboard. WWDC was the obvious choice for an announcement, but even that’s leaving it hanging in the breeze for ages. If they were to announce a 12” ARM MacBook at WWDC, I’m guessing they’d still want to get the MBP out first to keep the message simple, so I’m still hopeful we’ll see one sooner rather than later.
A revised 13” MBP at this stage makes no sense either when you look at their laptop lineup now, so I think it will be 14”. No concrete rumours about it doesn’t worry me though.
It just makes no sense for the 13” to be sitting there as the only laptop with the butterfly keyboard. WWDC was the obvious choice for an announcement, but even that’s leaving it hanging in the breeze for ages. If they were to announce a 12” ARM MacBook at WWDC, I’m guessing they’d still want to get the MBP out first to keep the message simple, so I’m still hopeful we’ll see one sooner rather than later.
A revised 13” MBP at this stage makes no sense either when you look at their laptop lineup now, so I think it will be 14”. No concrete rumours about it doesn’t worry me though.
The ARM chip will be a no go for many. Is Microsoft going to re-write desktop Excel for the A chip? How good will the x86 emulator work for either "old Mac Excel" or bootcamp/parallels?
There needs to be a new 14" MBP released in May. How freaking long can you have a broken keyboard on your second most popular non-mobile product?
There needs to be a new 14" MBP released in May. How freaking long can you have a broken keyboard on your second most popular non-mobile product?