They could update the base model to a 14” regular screen instead of Mini Led it would keep the sizing simple
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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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Thanks for your thoughts stlow. Do you think the MBA or the MBP would be better for something like Lightroom? I was wondering about the heat issues people are talking about. My little MBA tends to get very hot for some reason when I have several windows open doing online searches and it's a bit of a pain when the fans keep churning.
I hope it'll last a lot longer than a couple of years!
Just the screen I’d imagine. Realistically Intel won’t be able to produce the volume of Tiger Lake chips Apple would need until Next Year and besides the screen there isn’t much else they could do apart for maybe a slightly bigger battery or speakers which would really just come with the bigger chassis
I agree, but if my memory and Wikipedia are correct, in early 2018 you could buy the iPhone SE(1), iPhone 6S, iPhone 7, iPhone 8 and iPhone X. So maybe they are borrowing that model.
Perhaps Apple will keep the low end 13" and stop selling the high end 13" when/if they release the 14".
So under the 13-replaced-by-14 scenario I think the soonest the 14 drops is Nov, like the 16. Otherwise they could have waited/not updated the 13, butterfly pressure notwithstanding.
End of the year, October - November time with other mini LED products. There is a suggestion that original timeframe has now slipped back to early next year as well, though.
RE: The Butterfly keyboard issues - businesses and companies certainly know about them. As do professional users and content producers.
I contract at places that have 100's of owned macs and 1,000's in use. They have to keep spares to ensure there is no downtime for their employees/workers. You bet IT knows about it - they keep records and have to arrange repair. The finance department knows because their costs go up keeping spares and all the lost downtime. Marketing and advertising producers know about it because they mostly hate the keyboard (but use external keyboards onsite), but now have to take additional kit offsite in case of failures 'on the road'. They probably talk about it to their friends. I know IT people also have friends. They probably mention it. Finance probably also do, and they will definitely talk about costs. Marketing might even have friends to tell too.
So yeh - outside the Apple nerd community, it is known
Have to assume even if the 14" comes out with mini LED this year, it's presumably going to be substantially more expensive than the 13" that just released (because mini LED). That puts it out of my price range as I dont want to spend something like $2200 or so for a base model. I'm happier in the $1500-$2000 range. We'll see though. It will be interesting to see what they do.
You could be on to something there. Going along a similar model to the price spectrum of their phones you mentioned, i could definitely see Apple doing a laptop lineup of the early 2020 13" MBP, late 2020/early 2021 14" MBP with Mini LED 90-120hz screen, late 2019 16" MBP, late 2020/early 2021 16" MBP with Mini LED 90-120hz screen. Covering a relatively broad spectrum of price range of "low end" to "high end" within the Macbook Pro lineup. Though, i also agree with another commenter who said it'd feel like a cluttered lineup, but i also am having a hard time seeing them refresh the 13" MBP the way they have, only to completely drop it in favor of the 14" so soon after. Would Apple really do that just so the people who want to buy a 13" MBP between now and when the 14" drops have something to buy that has the magic keyboard? Who knows. It's all a mystery i'm very curious to see how it ends up unfolding.
im not sure actually, because on 2014 they dont have late model.
possible on 2021
Yes, I decided on this too. I cancelled my 512gb and will order a 1TB instead.
Not necessarily, they updated the 15” MBP and then in the same year released the 16” and discontinued the 15”. They could just do the same with the 14”, once available discontinue the 13”.
This is something I'm really interested in, with the hope that this will solve the dual-display overheating problem. The second problem is that I need to buy a new computer by August. At first I thought it's June WWDC of bust (i.e. October/November release), but looking at the release dates for all laptops for the past 10 years, there's a chance that Apple could release an update in July as well:
2011: July (MBA)
2012: June (MBA, MBP)
2013: June (MBA)
2014: July (MBP)
2015: Nothing in June/July
2016: Nothing in June/July
2017: June (MB, MBA, MBP)
2018: July (MBP)
2019: July (MBA, MBP)
2020: ???
The last time Apple release a notebook in August was 1996 (PowerBooks), and even then it was August 28, so almost September.
For me I will wait now until July, and then I may just have to bite the bullet and buy the 2019 16" MBP.
So it looks like we might still be getting Mini-LED by the end of the year:
forums.macrumors.com
Kuo: Apple's Mini-LED Product Roadmap May Have Been Pushed Back to 2021
Apple's development of mini-LED display based hardware has not been significantly affected by the global health crisis but it may have delayed adoption of the technology in the short-term, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. In a research note with TF International Securities today, seen...
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So it looks like we might still be getting Mini-LED by the end of the year:
Kuo: Apple's Mini-LED Product Roadmap May Have Been Pushed Back to 2021
Apple's development of mini-LED display based hardware has not been significantly affected by the global health crisis but it may have delayed adoption of the technology in the short-term, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. In a research note with TF International Securities today, seen...
Still nothing solid on a 13” or 14” model.
I’m praying more solid rumours come about in the next month as we get closer to WWDC. Can’t justify upgrading my 2017 13” MBP non TB. Please Apple treat us this year with 14” !!
That's extremely unlikely, next to impossible lol
The new Macbook Pro 13 does have 28W Ice Lake parts--it has two of them, including one that was never announced. Both parts are currently exclusive to this machine.
www.notebookcheck.net
These parts doubtless provide the best single-core performance available in any compact notebook. And they aren't in any other device--not even the recently-launched Surface Book 3.
Intel's willingness to provide Apple these top-shelf parts warrants serious consideration. We know Apple has options. But could Intel keep Apple in its corner by providing its top-of-the-line APUs? As exciting as Cezanne is, I would not be dissappointed to see Tiger Lake H in the MBP 16.
The 10nm Intel Ice Lake CPUs found in the new 13-inch MacBook Pro are currently exclusive to Apple
The new 10th-generation quad-core CPUs found in the new MacBook Pro 13-inch appear to be exclusive to Apple, at least at this point in time. A search of the Intel Ark does not reveal any Ice Lake parts that match up with the silicon Apple is offering in its latest laptop which are much more...
These parts doubtless provide the best single-core performance available in any compact notebook. And they aren't in any other device--not even the recently-launched Surface Book 3.
Intel's willingness to provide Apple these top-shelf parts warrants serious consideration. We know Apple has options. But could Intel keep Apple in its corner by providing its top-of-the-line APUs? As exciting as Cezanne is, I would not be dissappointed to see Tiger Lake H in the MBP 16.
I’m rocking a 13” mid-2017 cMBP and it’s been working well for me (other than it runs hot). At this point will likely wait to upgrade until the redesign launches (guessing next year?).
Quick question. On the overview page on MacOS which shows the specs on both of the new models it says MacBook Pro 13 2020. Not early or mid 2020. Does all Macs say this until their successor releases or could the mean that there will be no other updates to the 13” model this year. (Like a base model spec bump or a hint to a 14” model)
They switched to just using the year a little while ago I think. In About This Mac, mine used to say 'MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)', and now it has dropped the 'Late' and simply designates it as '2016'. I don't think it's something to read too much into - I'm sure they could release two models in the same year if they wanted to.
My bad. I’m still convinced that around July we’ll see a refreshed base model with 10th gen CPU’s likely around the time of the Back to School Deal. The intel leaks from rogame on twitter which were nearly perfect for the 28W CPUs indicate that we’ll see an i5-1065 either G4 or G7 (maybe both) and an i7-1065G7. However they could completely switch and give us comet lake as a refresh although I strongly doubt it