Waiting for the 2020 MBP

[Howard2k]

Today, rumor breaks that the new 16" MBP will not be coming until 2020. Same for the iPad Pro models expected this month.

Where are you reading this exactly?

Here's what the article said:

"The Apple analyst has also revealed his predicted schedule for Apple's MacBook lineup refresh. We've already learned that Apple is planning to use a scissor mechanism rather than a butterfly mechanism for its upcoming 16-inch MacBook Pro, which is expected to be announced as soon as this month.

However, Kuo has said that after the 16-inch MacBook Pro launches, future Macs coming in 2020 will also swap over to a scissor mechanism rather than a butterfly mechanism, resulting in more durable keyboards that are not as prone to failure from heat, dust and other small particulates."

Where does it say that the 16" is not coming?

 

[ThisBougieLife]

It's the paragraph after that:

Kuo now predicts that Apple's refreshed MacBook models will arrive in the second quarter of 2020, suggesting they will feature the much-anticipated scissor mechanism keyboards that the company is adopting wholesale.

But that doesn't mean the 16" MBP isn't coming this year. Kuo referred vaguely to MacBooks with scissor keyboards coming in 2020, but that could be the Air or the 12" or the 13" MBP.

 

[Howard2k]

It's the paragraph after that:

Kuo now predicts that Apple's refreshed MacBook models will arrive in the second quarter of 2020, suggesting they will feature the much-anticipated scissor mechanism keyboards that the company is adopting wholesale.

But that doesn't mean the 16" MBP isn't coming this year. Kuo referred vaguely to MacBooks with scissor keyboards coming in 2020, but that could be the Air or the 12" or the 13" MBP.

Yeah, nothing there says that the 16” is delayed.

 

[am2am]

Yeah, nothing there says that the 16” is delayed.

nothing there says 16" is on schedule because there is no schedule, there are just rumors.
I agree with ThisBougieLife - you can read Kuo's predictions both ways. He is not mentioning 2019 for 16", just saying 2020 is year of scissors for macbook line

 

[Howard2k]

nothing there says 16" is on schedule because there is no schedule, there are just rumors.
I agree with ThisBougieLife - you can read Kuo's predictions both ways. He is not mentioning 2019 for 16", just saying 2020 is year of scissors for macbook line

He previously said that there is a 16” coming in October.

He hasn’t said anything to the contrary here.

 

[poorcody]

What Kuo said is also consistent with what he has said in the past: this year for a 16" MacBook Pro with new keyboard, but next year for the keyboard to appear on other MacBooks.

Supposedly the 16" began manufacturing in September already.

 

[am2am]

He previously said that there is a 16” coming in October.

He hasn’t said anything to the contrary here.

yea ..
and previously but later he said the first macbook with scissors will be macbook air this year,
at the same time he said: "a new scissor switch keyboard will also be used in the MacBook Pro, but not until 2020"

 

[fulhamx5]

do you think there will be an update for 2.4 ghz macbook pro 13 with 16 inch macbook pro announcement?
maybe a new cpu and 16 gb minimum ram ?

 

[Howard2k]

yea ..
and previously but later he said the first macbook with scissors will be macbook air this year,
at the same time he said: "a new scissor switch keyboard will also be used in the MacBook Pro, but not until 2020"

I'm not seeing the relevance.

 

[fokmik]

do you think there will be an update for 2.4 ghz macbook pro 13 with 16 inch macbook pro announcement?
maybe a new cpu and 16 gb minimum ram ?

I think apple will wait until march for the new cpu 10nm with the redesign keyboard

 

[TechViking]

What are the chances the updated model could be configured with 128 GB RAM?

 

[Aquamite]

What are the chances the updated model could be configured with 128 GB RAM?

Some.

 

[KarmaRocket]

With the way Apple prices RAM, 128 GB might cost more than the machine itself! lol

 

[Ma2k5]

What are the chances the updated model could be configured with 128 GB RAM?

Less than zero.

 

[danwells]

Laptops with 128 GB are really rare, and generally 17". 64 GB is a real possibility, since it works with two slots (or in Apple's case, soldered banks). 128 GB requires four slots (they are set up two per channel, since all mobile chips are two channel). Since Apple solders RAM, there are no slots, but there would still be four logical DIMMs instead of two. That's a motherboard change just for the high-RAM version (unless they left the empty traces on every board)...

 

[TechViking]

With the way Apple prices RAM, 128 GB might cost more than the machine itself! lol

Lenovo currently charges only $1,215 for 8 GB --> 128 GB RAM upgrade for their 15 inch P53 model. That is actually quite reasonable pricing - of course that is not something Apple is too known for.

 

[TechViking]

Laptops with 128 GB are really rare, and generally 17". 64 GB is a real possibility, since it works with two slots (or in Apple's case, soldered banks). 128 GB requires four slots (they are set up two per channel, since all mobile chips are two channel). Since Apple solders RAM, there are no slots, but there would still be four logical DIMMs instead of two. That's a motherboard change just for the high-RAM version (unless they left the empty traces on every board)...

Thanks. I would think Apple would like to have this option for their most PRO laptop, since other companies have had the option in their laptops since last year.


Any chance we might see 64 GB RAM modules soon? What is the limiting factor for 32 GB max for RAM modules currently?

 

[RyanFlynn]

As a film maker, having 64gb would be really helpful on the road.

 

[RyanFlynn]

The 4TB BTO option jumped to 5-6 weeks.

great sign!

 

[Menno87]

Could also mean that they needed some chips for the Mac Pro.. I purchased a maxed out MacBook Pro anyway because I needed a new machine. This one will be arriving next week. If they announce the 16” it will be still within the return period.

 

[danwells]

While the P53 is not a 17", it is a really, big, thick 15" - and only the big, thick 15" machines are capable of supporting 128 GB of RAM. In the cases of Lenovo, HP and probably Dell, the 6 lb 15" workstation does support 128 GB, while the 4-5 lb version does not.

The reason Dell is a probably is that the thick, heavy Precision 7540 has 4 slots, but Dell only sells it with up to 32 GB (!!!) of RAM in a 4x8 configuration. It will almost certainly take 16 GB SODIMMs for 64 GB, and I would think that it will probably also take 32 GB SODIMMs for 128 GB, but I'm not sure.

Razer's machines (including the 17" variant) are all 2 slot, 64 GB max. I would be very surprised if the new Blade Studio models are 4 slot - they should be the same motherboard as the gaming models, but with Quadro GPUs and some higher-end CPU options (all the gaming models are 6 core).

 

[NJRonbo]

Here is the article with the report that 16" MBP will not be coming until next year.

I don't believe it, though

We may be waiting until 2020 for new iPad Pro, 16-inch MacBook

You could be waiting longer than anticipated to get your hands on Apple's next-generation iPad Pro. One trusted analyst says the refresh will arrive in

www.cultofmac.com

 

[MrGunnyPT]

I found a mid 2018 MacBook Pro 15" base for 2000 Euros... It's a steal.

However I think I will wait for the new machines come 2020.

 

[Howard2k]

Here is the article with the report that 16" MBP will not be coming until next year.

I don't believe it, though

We may be waiting until 2020 for new iPad Pro, 16-inch MacBook

You could be waiting longer than anticipated to get your hands on Apple's next-generation iPad Pro. One trusted analyst says the refresh will arrive in

www.cultofmac.com

Thanks. There are so many problems with this article. We can start with:

1) the source of this article is a 9to5mac article which doesn’t state that the 16” isn’t coming.
2) the 9to5 article does point out that the original article from Kuo is a Chinese language article.
3) the original article actually infers that Kuo isn’t taking about the 16” next year:

It’s not clear if Kuo is referring to the upcoming 16-inch MacBook Pro (which he has previously pitted as coming before the end of 2019) or a different MacBook model. The analyst previously said that Apple would transition all MacBooks to the new scissor switch keyboard design across 2020, starting with the MacBook Pro in the fall of 2019.
Typically, Kuo refers to devices precisely, so information on MacBook Pro would state ‘MacBook Pro’. Therefore, we think it is likely that today’s mention refers to a different Apple laptop line.

 

[NJRonbo]

Thanks. There are so many problems with this article. We can start with:

1) the source of this article is a 9to5mac article which doesn’t state that the 16” isn’t coming.
2) the 9to5 article does point out that the original article from Kuo is a Chinese language article.
3) the original article actually infers that Kuo isn’t taking about the 16” next year:

Yeah, Howard, I am just the messenger.

As someone who has patiently been waiting for an announcement, I was absolutely PISSED when I read that report.

However, I absolutely do not believe it. There have been so many other reports that the 16" MBP has been in production for weeks now.