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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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Because there are more rumors that the MBP has been in production for the past few weeks now.
Of course, no-one has definitive information but I believe the product is in the pipeline.
Screw Intel. Apple should move to their AX ARM Cpu's asap. A14X will be at 5nm already while Intel is so far behind.
Not that Ice Lake is particularly game-changing over 9th gen chips anyway by all accounts I've seen so far, 10nm or not...
Hopefully Face ID, Keyboard and 16.4 inch screen and I'm in.
Yeah, typically Mondays or Tuesdays, with Tuesdays a little more common. Keeping my fingers crossed for good news Tuesday morning.
Maybe we saw different benchmarks? Huge IPC gains, 2x GPU performance improvement, and if AVX-512 is enabled it absolutely murders everything else.
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The reason is that the FaceID sensor is half the thickness of the entire laptop, you'd need a display with the thickness of an iPad to put one in.
Any special reason they can't make the sensor wide instead of thick? Or why not separate the camera from the faceID sensor and put the sensor elsewhere.
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usually products come at the same time each day -10 am PST
I really want that new keyboard. I barely use mine (my 15" 2016 MBP usually docked) but it's simply unreliable. A bigger screen is pretty great too.
Big IPC gains but frequency drops substantially to make it nearly a wash performance wise. Now that’s a relative good thing on a laptop because it means better power efficiency.
The need to move to 10nm is somewhat lessened because Apple is porting over some of the most important platform improvements to 14nm anyway.
Yep. As others have pointed out, the 720p webcam seems to be all that can fit in the current lid design. That could change in the future if the FaceID module is made smaller or the display is made thicker, but right now we're stuck with the 720p webcam indefinitely.
64 GB: As people have pointed out, there are RAM chips dense enough that it's not hard for Apple to do. Also, every one of their competitors in the "thin and light mobile workstation" space offers it. A couple (Razer, I'm looking at you with your new Studio configurations that ship with 16 GB) don't ship machines with 64 GB - but they all either ship it or support upgrading...
Comet Lake: Reports on when Comet Lake-H (still 14 nm, slightly improved, possibly 10-core top option) might release range from "imminent" to March 2 020. It's probably a drop-in, so Apple could either release the new 16" with it or do a minor bump to include it in six months.
Comet Lake: Reports on when Comet Lake-H (still 14 nm, slightly improved, possibly 10-core top option) might release range from "imminent" to March 2 020. It's probably a drop-in, so Apple could either release the new 16" with it or do a minor bump to include it in six months.
Maybe. I'm going by Anandtech and Tom's hardware 1st August reviews, plus some more recent testing of actual production computers such as the XPS 13 7390.
I see moderate IPC gains, and largely cancelled out by slower clocks. You're not even getting a 5% single core boost over 9th gen Whiskey Lake according to Anandtech. The biggest thing for multicore will be the higher wattage (25W) chips getting a 6 core option (one chip; 10710U) so this is a benefit limited to only any machine that uses this specific processor. At that it's only equipped with UHD graphics, so you get either this benefit, or the below.
Graphics improvement is reasonable enough, but remember it's off a very low base, and outside of Iris, it doesn't make a meaningful usability difference (i.e. if you're playing a game it's not going to be the difference between a playable frame rate and a slideshow). Intel were promising 1 TFLOP - that's ~80% of a GTX 1050 but they haven't achieved that at the high end, and the HD graphics integrated into most of the chips falls short of even being in that ballpark. Basically that means if you're using a high end Iris chip (so MBP territory) yeah it might finally go toe to toe with a low end MX150, but most of these chips aren't getting anywhere near that. If you want Iris, you also can't have it with the 6 core CPU.
Ultimately graphics aside, this is very little more gain than they managed with each successive 'lake' release. Sorry for a perhaps overly negative post, but think people are getting over excited because of the 'node shrink' (mostly a marketing thing not just for intel but across the industry) when it's actually not made the sort of impact people seem to be expecting.
Maybe, but might as well wait a week before giving up on Fall. If the Mac Pro is released but no MacBook Pro comes, we'll know.
There’s a little bit too much smoke and noise in the rumor mill for me to think it’s gonna be all the way till March