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bandrews

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My Mini 4 with ios12, feels like a Mini5.

Apple. Do not release an updated Ipad Mini please.

iOS 12 also given my mini 4 a new lease of life. For my hands it is the best apple device for two handed typing. I especially like the flicking the keys to get numbers/punctuation. Far fewer typos than on my phone.

Having said that, would totally buy a 5 because it would be new and shiny.
 

Whoakapi

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iOS 12 also given my mini 4 a new lease of life. For my hands it is the best apple device for two handed typing. I especially like the flicking the keys to get numbers/punctuation. Far fewer typos than on my phone.

Having said that, would totally buy a 5 because it would be new and shiny.
In the perfect world we would see a 5 sometime in the future with the same design as the upcoming Pros.

A man can dream.
 

Mabus51

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iPad mini is the iPhone X Max. No need for a mini refresh. I would rather have a flat back on the iPad and no awful camera bump.
 

DiamonDecoden

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Multiple people have said this and it still sounds ridiculous to me. If all one needs is an iPad mini why would one pay 2x as much for a iPhone XS Max and just as much more for the monthly data (if not more)?

We need an iPad mini sized iPhone. The max is not a replacement for the iPad mini. It is way too small compared to the mini.
 

Coolpher

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The new iPhone Xs Max is 6.5 inch screen and the iPad mini is 7.9 inches You’re only looking at a difference of 1.4 I would say it’s extremely unlikely to see an iPad mini come to light anytime soon
 

subjonas

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The new iPhone Xs Max is 6.5 inch screen and the iPad mini is 7.9 inches You’re only looking at a difference of 1.4 I would say it’s extremely unlikely to see an iPad mini come to light anytime soon

Diagonal measurement is a meaningless way to compare screens of different aspect ratios. The Max screen has a surface area of 16 square inches; the iPad mini is 30 square inches. Almost double.
 

iLLUMI

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Get the ipad mini 4th gen. It's still excellent device to consider. See the video above even a 2nd gen works so well with ios12

I agree. I recently purchased an iPad Mini 4 when the price dropped.
It ran iOS 11 out of the box and whilst it started off a bit laggy it seems to have smoothed itself out. Everything is smooth and very responsive. I don't want to upgrade to iOS 12 just yet.

If Apple released a Mini 5 with bezel reduced display, no home button, Face ID etc early next year then I will still be willing to get one.

My iPad Mini 2 is still running iOS 9.3.5.
I'm tempted to upgrade to iOS 12 because I love the gestures in iOS 11. But I'm not sure if iOS 12 is going to be slower than 9.3.5. .... I don't want to risk it. :\
 

HeadphoneAddict

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I agree. I recently purchased an iPad Mini 4 when the price dropped.
It ran iOS 11 out of the box and whilst it started off a bit laggy it seems to have smoothed itself out. Everything is smooth and very responsive. I don't want to upgrade to iOS 12 just yet.

If Apple released a Mini 5 with bezel reduced display, no home button, Face ID etc early next year then I will still be willing to get one.

My iPad Mini 2 is still running iOS 9.3.5.
I'm tempted to upgrade to iOS 12 because I love the gestures in iOS 11. But I'm not sure if iOS 12 is going to be slower than 9.3.5. .... I don't want to risk it. :\

A month ago I would have told you the best iOS for the Mini 2 was iOS 10.3.3 while iOS 11.x killed it. But iOS 12 brought it back to life.

I'm stuck with an original Mini running 9.3.5 because last spring I traded my Mini 4 to my son for his Mini 2 so he could use it for college. And then after iOS 12 came out, many developers stopped supporting iOS 9, and my mother-in-law couldn't run some of her favorite apps on her Mini. So I had to give her the Mini 2 with iOS 12.0 on it, and take her Mini 1. She was thrilled to have things running so well.

So, the Mini 2 with iOS 12 runs just fine, and certainly much better than the original Mini that I have with iOS 9.3.5, yet mom-in-law's original Mini with 9.3.5 is still noticeably quicker than my Kindle Fire 8 HD that I got earlier this year. Th

APPLE, I WILL BY A MINI 5 OR MINI PRO AS SOON AS YOU MAKE ONE AVAILABLE.

My Air 2 is slightly quicker than the Mini 4, but not by a lot - my main issue with the Air 2 is that it, like the other full size iPads, is too big to put in a jacket pocket or cargo pants side pocket.

Since Mini 4 is old tech and came out in 2014 with the iPhone 6, and we've had 4 NEW generations of phones and iPads released since then, I feel like a mini 5 should be out any day now and I'd be throwing my money away on a mini 4 that would depreciate by 50% immediately upon the announcement of a new one.

My iPhone Xs Max will never be an iPad replacement (more like an iPad Micro). The icons should rotate in landscape mode like the 8+, and not all of the 2-column apps work the same as the iPad (i.e. mail), and a split screen mode and PIP would not be good on such a small screen, so it's missing that too.

PS: while I wait for an iPad mini 5, I've taken to using a Kindle Papaerwhite 3G, since the Fire HD 8" and iPad Mini 1 are so slow.
 
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Whoakapi

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Since Mini 4 is old tech and came out in 2014 with the iPhone 6, and we've had 4 NEW generations of phones and iPads released since then, I feel like a mini 5 should be out any day now and I'd be throwing my money away on a mini 4 that would depreciate by 50% immediately upon the announcement of a new one.
Both the iPhone 6 and the Mini 4 uses the A8 processor.

- iPhone 6 was released September 2014.
- iPad Mini 4 was released September 2015.
 
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BDwy27

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I want an IPAD MINI 5 and I WANT it NOW! lmao but seriously @Apple give us an updated Ipad mini. No one wants to carry a 12.9 11.5 inch tablet around.
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iPad mini is the iPhone X Max. No need for a mini refresh. I would rather have a flat back on the iPad and no awful camera bump.

Will have to respectfully disagree. Iphone XS MAX is not close to the Ipad mini 7.9 inch dimensions. Plus the IPAD mini with the apps that allow you to download movies and shows on the go (Netflix/Prime) wont take up iphones battery and GBs when watching. Bigger screen as well for the mini.
 

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joeblow7777

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Since Mini 4 is old tech and came out in 2014 with the iPhone 6, and we've had 4 NEW generations of phones and iPads released since then, I feel like a mini 5 should be out any day now and I'd be throwing my money away on a mini 4 that would depreciate by 50% immediately upon the announcement of a new one.

I both agree and disagree with what you're saying here. On the one hand, given the age of the Mini 4, it really should receive a price cut regardless of whether a Mini 5 ever comes or not. It's ridiculous that it still sells at the price it launched at in 2015, and you can actually get a (32GB) 2018 iPad with a two generation newer processor, Pencil support, and a larger display for less.

But on the other hand, I don't like being dismissive of technology simply because it's a few years old. I prefer to judge it based on how well it serves its intended purpose, and especially with iOS 12 which has by most accounts improved the Mini 4's performance, it's still a very capable tablet, and lacks any competition in the premium mini tablet market, which is probably why Apple isn't bothering to release an update or lower the price. If you want a fully featured small tablet as opposed to a glorified e-reader, the iPad Mini 4 is still the best/only option.
 
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Mabus51

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I want an IPAD MINI 5 and I WANT it NOW! lmao but seriously @Apple give us an updated Ipad mini. No one wants to carry a 12.9 11.5 inch tablet around.
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Will have to respectfully disagree. Iphone XS MAX is not close to the Ipad mini 7.9 inch dimensions. Plus the IPAD mini with the apps that allow you to download movies and shows on the go (Netflix/Prime) wont take up iphones battery and GBs when watching. Bigger screen as well for the mini.
I didn’t say the Xs Max was close to the dimensions of the iPad mini. Just saying most opt for it over an iPad mini as their in between device. Also looking at the price points the mini no longer fits in Apples eco system. I wouldn’t count on the mini being updated anymore. It’s become the Mac Mini of Apple iDevices. The impression I’m under this event is strictly pro model iPads, MacBook refresh, new accessories, and the launch date of the Xr.
 

solarmon

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If apple released an ipad mini with reduced bezels and an increased screen from 7.9” to 8.5” and with pencil support....wow. That would be the ultimate portable ipad.

Yes, please! I’ll take two, one for me and my wife. After murdering the SE, and rumors of no new
Mac mini or IPad mini, I was beginning to think that Tim Cook specifically did not like me at all! He seemed out to take away all of my favorite sized toys! Would love a full screen iPad mini with pencil, Tim. Then, we could be friends again! BTW, Tim love the Watch 4!
 

HeadphoneAddict

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I both agree and disagree with what you're saying here. On the one hand, given the age of the Mini 4, it really should receive a price cut regardless of whether a Mini 5 ever comes or not. It's ridiculous that it still sells at the price it launched at in 2015, and you can actually get a (32GB) 2018 iPad with a two generation newer processor, Pencil support, and a larger display for less.

But on the other hand, I don't like being dismissive of technology simply because it's a few years old. I prefer to judge it based on how well it serves its intended purpose, and especially with iOS 12 which has by most accounts improved the Mini 4's performance, it's still a very capable tablet, and lacks any competition in the premium mini tablet market, which is probably why Apple isn't bothering to release an update or lower the price. If you want a fully featured small tablet as opposed to a glorified e-reader, the iPad Mini 4 is still the best/only option.

Noted, but I owned an iPad Mini 4 from launch until this spring when my son took it to college with him. iOS 11 slowed it down a lot, so I was forced to use my iPad Air 2 after he got my Mini 4. Because of the size, I almost never used the Air 2 before I gave him my Mini 4, and I just dealt with the speed issues on iOS 11 grudgingly.

I haven't experienced a Mini 4 with iOS 12, but I do know that my Air 2 was faster than the Mini 4 when they both had iOS 11, and the mini 4 performance was sluggish. So while the mini on an A8 might be fine on iOS 12 now, there is no guarantee that the next iOS will work just as well - it's got half the power of the iPhone 6S with A9, and about 20% of the power of the iPhone Xs Max.

My dilemma is trying to justify a brand new smaller and slower iPad Mini 4, when I have a faster Air 2 whose only problem is that it's harder to carry around. What I really want is something as zippy as my last 2-3 iPhones but with an 8" screen and pocketable, that will have 3-4 more years of useable and supported life.
 
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jterp7

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Diagonal measurement is a meaningless way to compare screens of different aspect ratios. The Max screen has a surface area of 16 square inches; the iPad mini is 30 square inches. Almost double.

+1 ios 12 helped a bit for my mini4 but I can feel the slowness when i switch from my Xs max. Edge to edge mini 5 with 120hz probably too much to ask for? One can dream though...
 
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HarryWild

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Yes! New iPad Mini upgrade....hopefully!
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We need an iPad mini sized iPhone. The max is not a replacement for the iPad mini. It is way too small compared to the mini.
Max is 16:9 while the Mini is at 4:3 ratio. rectangle vs. square viewing. Big difference in total viewing area!
 

LarryC

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Let’s get real. No one wants a mini. Logically, it’s not coming back along with the MacBook Air and the Mac mini. Get over it. People with plus size phones don’t even use their minis. I have a mini 4 and a 10.5 and I have only used my mini once in the last year looking up something when my pro died. I could have easily used my Mac but was lazy and it was sitting there. If you want a mini, get the new 6.5 iPhone and call it a day.
Well...since you don't want your iPad Mini 4, I'll gladly take it! Thank you.
 

lparsons21

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The other day I had a doctor’s appt and forgot to take my reading glasses and my Mini. Ended up reading on my Xs Max. I was pleasantly surprised to be able to read on it just fine. But I wouldn’t want to have to all the time.

Since then I’ve been evaluating what I read and where it comes from. Let me start by saying I really like Books and my Mini, but I read a lot and now read mostly on Kindle with Kindle Unlimited subscription, and with Scribd subscription for both ebooks and audiobooks. Almost nothing with Books these days.

And I found that my cheap 5th gen Fire HD8 with Google Play store let’s me do that just fine. And since the Mini doesn’t do well these days as mine is old, and I never did much other than read ebooks on it, I probably won’t buy a new one even if they bring one out. The Mini definitely presents the fonts better than the Fire HD8, but not $320 better!
 

ActionableMango

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In the perfect world we would see a 5 sometime in the future with the same design as the upcoming Pros.

A man can dream.

It's not outlandish really. In November 2013 when the iPad Mini 2 was released, it had the same A7 CPU, M7 motion processor, GPU, 1GB RAM, and screen resolution as the new iPad released that month. Apple even referred to the iPad Mini as "every bit an iPad, just smaller".

My hope, which was dashed obviously, was that this is what the Mini would be from that point on--just a smaller screen option of whatever that year's iPad was.

Unfortunately it's become a budget model instead.
 
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lbdesign

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I was beginning to think that Tim Cook specifically did not like me at all! He seemed out to take away all of my favorite sized toys! Would love a full screen iPad mini with pencil, Tim. Then, we could be friends again! BTW, Tim love the Watch 4!

Yeah, Tim never replies to my emails. I don't think he likes me either.
 

Plutonius

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Indeed. It’s the only iOS device I still actually use, because it’s *just* small enough to fit in jacket and pants pockets

The iPad Mini fits in jacket pockets but not in any pants pocket that I have had. I have my iPod Touch 6 for carrying everywhere.

My iPad Mini 2 works great for what I do and I see no reason to get a newer model (i.e. I have no interest in an iPad Mini 5).
 
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