I had to block him because I got tired of reading his complaints. If he love his Note 20 then he need to sell his iPhone and move on completely from Apple. He take the joy out of reading through the forum.
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I had to block him because I got tired of reading his complaints. If he love his Note 20 then he need to sell his iPhone and move on completely from Apple. He take the joy out of reading through the forum.
Last year, people were whining that the new iPhone would be a failure if it didn’t have 5G. This year, it’s 120H.
I have yet to read a single article that explains why 120 Hz refresh provides significant benefits to anyone other than gamers. “Smoother scrolling” is the closest anyone’s come. Well, I never look at my current phone and think, “Man, this scrolling is rough.”
120Hz is like 5G, in my opinion. They’re specs that some people think they need (even if they don’t know why), but they won’t provide real benefits like lidar and camera improvements.
I have yet to read a single article that explains why 120 Hz refresh provides significant benefits to anyone other than gamers. “Smoother scrolling” is the closest anyone’s come. Well, I never look at my current phone and think, “Man, this scrolling is rough.”
120Hz is like 5G, in my opinion. They’re specs that some people think they need (even if they don’t know why), but they won’t provide real benefits like lidar and camera improvements.
Sure they are. Just like 3 camera lenses, 4k video, screens larger than 3.5 inches and dozens of other features were just "gimmicks" until the iPhone got them right?
Sure they are. Just like 3 camera lenses, 4k video, screens larger than 3.5 inches and dozens of other features were just "gimmicks" until the iPhone got them right?
“If A is B, then C, D, E, F, etc. must also be B.” That is what we call a logical fallacy.
Also known as nonsense.
Now which Samsung device we talking about?
If it’s the A20 it’d be a tough sell but an Note 20 I might be able to deal. 😂
Have you ever used an iPad Pro with the feature on then turned off via accessibility?
On my phone I don’t mind now, but on my iPad with the feature off the experience is jarring and uncomfortable. I think it’s more a feature you don’t realize you need until you’ve been using it and it’s taken away. I’m not chomping at the bit for 120H, but I know at the same time it will make the user experience better and I hope it appears. It might even help ease eye strain for those who struggle with the displays. What I DONT want is for Apple to go the Samsung route and half ass it with downgrading the resolution when it’s activated.
+ My tourist town does need 5G. I can have 5 bars of Lte than provide 500Mbs during dead season unable to load a webpage (0Mbps) when peak season hits. Your situation isn’t everybody’s. My town has some of the best bands, and the newest 4G you could get but it can’t keep up.
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Who comes on to MacRumors, one of the most die-hard areas of the internet for Apple fans and starts spouting "ohhh but Samsung does this... Huawei does this..." The fact that the positive comments I've seen are of excitement and understanding says more about our community than a few Android trolls. I'm coming from Android back into iOS this year. Would I rather have my new phone now? Sure. Will it make a difference in my life if it's October, November or even December? Definitely not.
Sure they are. Just like 3 camera lenses, 4k video, screens larger than 3.5 inches and dozens of other features were just "gimmicks" until the iPhone got them right?
Having a better camera or the ability to take better photos is a tangible benefit of those improvements. What percentage of the smartphone market (excluding gamers) is really going to care what the refresh rate of their screen is as long as it's smooth?
Thats a joke right? What percentage of the smartphone market will notice an app opening a second faster? Who cares about the A14 processor? The A8 is plenty fast enough for most people right? Why own anything newer than an iPhone 8 right?
It's amazing how you twist a comment so far out of context to fit your agenda that you are effectively arguing with yourself, because none of your post is even relevant to my comment. We get it, you're mad at Apple. So go buy an Android phone and leave - that way you'll be happy for a month...
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My thoughts exactly. I mean I'm going to be using my android till I move back to ios. Does it matter when? No, not really as I accept that there are many factors involved when releasing new hardware. The pandemic has sadly affected this but I wouldnt say its angered me, disappointed yes but not angry.
Trolls.
But everybody’s gotta they their dopamine some way.
If 5G and 120hz screen is sooooo important, then can someone please point me to the 120hz screened 5G Android Flagship in this list of the top 10 best selling phones from H1 2020:
I am seeing a whole lot of iPhones... more iPhone than anything else actually...
I am not against 5G or 120hz screen, but I’ll be happy if Apple implement these features when they are actually ready and more immediately beneficial to the market. I love the 120hz on my iPad Pro but I don’t NEED it, I actually bought the iPad Pro because my iPad Air 2 was done, the 6GB RAM, larger screen, Apple Pencil 2 support and better battery, the 120hz screen was a very nice added bonus.
I see the Samsung’s that use 120hz are limited to running 120hz at 1080P resolution, what’s up with that? I hope apple implement it when it can actually run efficiently at full resolution. When I bought Samsung flagships the first thing I did was go to the screen resolution setting and set it to QHD because I wanted to use the phone at its highest resolution.
I am seeing a whole lot of iPhones... more iPhone than anything else actually...
I am not against 5G or 120hz screen, but I’ll be happy if Apple implement these features when they are actually ready and more immediately beneficial to the market. I love the 120hz on my iPad Pro but I don’t NEED it, I actually bought the iPad Pro because my iPad Air 2 was done, the 6GB RAM, larger screen, Apple Pencil 2 support and better battery, the 120hz screen was a very nice added bonus.
I see the Samsung’s that use 120hz are limited to running 120hz at 1080P resolution, what’s up with that? I hope apple implement it when it can actually run efficiently at full resolution. When I bought Samsung flagships the first thing I did was go to the screen resolution setting and set it to QHD because I wanted to use the phone at its highest resolution.
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If 5G and 120hz screen is sooooo important, then can someone please point me to the 120hz screened 5G Android Flagship in this list of the top 10 best selling phones from H1 2020:
I am seeing a whole lot of iPhones... more iPhone than anything else actually...
I am not against 5G or 120hz screen, but I’ll be happy if Apple implement these features when they are actually ready and more immediately beneficial to the market. I love the 120hz on my iPad Pro but I don’t NEED it, I actually bought the iPad Pro because my iPad Air 2 was done, the 6GB RAM, larger screen, Apple Pencil 2 support and better battery, the 120hz screen was a very nice added bonus.
I see the Samsung’s that use 120hz are limited to running 120hz at 1080P resolution, what’s up with that? I hope apple implement it when it can actually run efficiently at full resolution. When I bought Samsung flagships the first thing I did was go to the screen resolution setting and set it to QHD because I wanted to use the phone at its highest resolution.
The only thing that list proves is people like cheaply priced phones. No real surprise at all.
The iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max are there to amongst the cheaply priced phones...Would at least expect a Galaxy S20+ or S20 Ultra to be in there to, no? If 5G and 120hz are that important to the market.
In fact the top selling standard iPhone 11 is most certainly not even the cheapest phone out, yet it has a huge lead on cheaper phones.
Those are most SHIPPED phones, not most sold. I can guarantee you most any retailer has a TON of iPhones sitting around, how many Xiaomi phones you think they carry? Apple typically over produces the iPhone. Thats a big reason they are late this year, cant hit that 80 million mark. Anyone who thinks they are actually going to sell all 80 million iPhones is nuts. Most of those will be sitting in retailer's stockrooms and warehouses, as they are every year. I can make a million of anything and ship it, doesn't mean they are going to sell. List of units shipped is pretty much useless.
Yea better to just ignore than to complain about the complaining and clog the thread more. I just wish that if you ignored someone and only they were quoted in another post, you wouldn't see that one either
So Apple simply ships endless iPhones without considering Demand and the Bottom line, is that what you are claiming?
Are you also trying to claim that carriers and other retailers simply order without caring about their own bottom line and demand to?
GTFOH
No matter how you try spin it the market clearly is not as eager for 5G or 120hz as you are trying to make out and it comes through in the numbers to.
Do you have some backup regarding Apple supposedly overproducing the iPhone 11? Please post it!
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So Apple simply ships endless iPhones without considering Demand and the Bottom line, is that what you are claiming?
Are you also trying to claim that carriers and other retailers simply order without caring about their own bottom line and demand to?
GTFOH
No matter how you try spin it the market clearly is not as eager for 5G or 120hz as you are trying to make out and it comes through in the numbers to.
Do you have some backup regarding Apple supposedly overproducing the iPhone 11? Please post it!
I have friends who work for Verizon. When I was thinking of switching my 11 Pro Max out for a different 11, he said they literally have hundreds in their stock room. All models, sizes and colors. Thats just ONE store, and that's separate from what their warehouses stock for online and phone orders. Im in southern California, so lots of people here but still. Now just imagine how many other iPhones are sitting in stock rooms and warehouses of other Verizon stores, AT&T, T Mobile, Apple stores etc...all around the country, and then worldwide. Yea...Thats why you never see how many have been SOLD, only SHIPPED. Because number sold are FAR less impressive.
Noted, so you do not have any actual proof to post here, just some supposed claims from your friends and your imagination, you don’t have any actual evidence on a global level either I see.
The numbers still don’t speak to your argument and I doubt any company (like Apple) would be stupid enough to simply ship devices willy-nilly without considering their bottom line and demand for the product.
Thanks for trying though. More than happy to have a relook when you comeback with actual numbers to support your argument, as it stands 5G and 120hz doesn’t seem to have convinced the market.
Looking at the Premium Segment Apple is still ruling, no sign of the 5G 120hz screen smartphones, in fact it is just 1 5G phone (no 120hz screened phone) that made it and it’s in China:
Counterpoint
www.counterpointresearch.com
The update to these numbers will certainly be interesting, but for your sake I doubt it will be pleasant for the 5G based 120hz phones.
Not endless, but they seem to want to hit some magic number before they start sending iPhones. There's so many places to send them. Apple Stores, carrier stores, carrier warehouses, third party stores...I just wish they would start sooner. I'd rather be backordered with a date than not know when I can even order. And if places take orders sooner, then Apple knows where exactly they need to send how many units.So Apple simply ships endless iPhones without considering Demand and the Bottom line, is that what you are claiming?
Are you also trying to claim that carriers and other retailers simply order without caring about their own bottom line and demand to?
GTFOH
No matter how you try spin it the market clearly is not as eager for 5G or 120hz as you are trying to make out and it comes through in the numbers to.
Do you have some backup regarding Apple supposedly overproducing the iPhone 11? Please post it!
Apple seem to be on the ball though, looking at these numbers it coincides with the shipments, will be interesting to see the update to this but as I have said before to Dex, the market doesn’t seem to be totally sold on the 5G 120hz phones, not as much as they are sold on the iPhone 11 range:
Counterpoint
www.counterpointresearch.com
We should get an update on these numbers soon, but I doubt much will change.
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