What have you done with a PowerPC today?

[galgot]

The forced downclocking to 667 MHz and disabling of the L3 cache is “connected” to the main battery being dead or missing AFAIK. But maybe some power management feature is causing it? I remember that Mac OS 9 on my 800 MHz TiBook reported the CPU speed as “667–800 MHz” in System Profiler.

You can try sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu and see if that reports anything of interest, or run e.g. Geekbench 2 and see if the results are as high as expected for a 1 GHz G4.

Ahh Thanks !
sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu gives me : kern.exec: unknown type returned.
But just sysctl -a , I can find : hw.cpufrequency: 100000000.
Then Geekbench 2 gives me 1Ghz with L3 cache 1.00 MB, So all fine on leopard side.

So the problem is in OpenBSD...

 

[Amethyst1]

Ahh Thanks !
sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu gives me : kern.exec: unknown type returned.

Did you run this on OpenBSD? It's meant to be run on OS X.

Then Geekbench 2 gives me 1Ghz with L3 cache 1.00 MB, So all fine on leopard side.

I think you need to run Geekbench and have a look at the results to determine if the CPU is really underclocked.

 

[galgot]

Did you run this on OpenBSD? It's meant to be run on OS X.


I think you need to run Geekbench and have a look at the results to determine if the CPU is really underclocked.

yes, I've run that command on OS X.
And I've run a bench with Geekbench which showed the 1Ghz and L3 cache.

There is definitively a problem with OPenBSD 7.2, had two complete freezes today :/
Wonder if there is something to do for it to "see" the CPU correctly .
Remember watching a vid of someone installing Gentoo on a iBook, there was something to do for the kernel to use the CPU at full possible speed... Will try to find that vid again. it's Gentoo sure, but maybe can help...

 

[Yumiko Noua]

hello!

in this thread i can post what i done with my powerpc mac right? well.. let's go!

first, today i open "discord" on my iMac g3 2001 (mac fully updated with mac os x tiger) via jabber IM gateway.
i suggest this method because have a search channel method very simple to use instead of bitlbee (IRC).
full guide here.

p.s. i used "psi" for jabber.

two, for youtube i used this site from this other thread, is so cool and fast, i use it with safari 4.1.3:

screen 1:

screen 2:

three, for instagram, i used interwebPPC, simple it, it works fine here, so no problem

screen 1:

screen 2:

this is what i done today with my iMac G3, and you? what have you done?

 

[Doq]

yes, I've run that command on OS X.
And I've run a bench with Geekbench which showed the 1Ghz and L3 cache.

There is definitively a problem with OPenBSD 7.2, had two complete freezes today :/
Wonder if there is something to do for it to "see" the CPU correctly .
Remember watching a vid of someone installing Gentoo on a iBook, there was something to do for the kernel to use the CPU at full possible speed... Will try to find that vid again. it's Gentoo sure, but maybe can help...

Okay but what was the score? OS X will happily tell you that your 1GHz is 1GHz but if you actually run the bench you'll run right into the truth. Thread.

 

[Tratkazir_the_1st]

"Canister" reporting . So apps crashes without any reason, Panther (10.3) self-destroyed in process of installation 10.3.9 combo update (unbootable, gray screen with circle). in Sorbet Leopard - can't mount DMG-files (not all, but many). Getting errors like "codec error" & so on. tested memory sticks in other PC - all 4 passed 5 sets of tests (around 6 hours). DIMMs are different, 1 is PC2700, 3 other - PC3200. And some have RAM chips on 1 side, some - on 2. Can it be the cause of troubles? What else can produce such bugs? What memory is recommended for this type of Macs?

A bit of good news - found one person who possibly can take care of my Quad, visited him & dropped both of them for further maintenance.

 

[galgot]

Okay but what was the score? OS X will happily tell you that your 1GHz is 1GHz but if you actually run the bench you'll run right into the truth. Thread.

Thank you for pointing me to that thread, posted the Geekbench results there .

 

[Doq]

Anyway, as per the season I got my Chillhop Essentials in which means it's time to break out SoundJam and put the CD info into GnuDB. Normally I'd pull out the Titanium for it, but seeing as I also got the final piece of the setup I figured

Why not the Six Dollar eMac this time?

It was the Six Dollar eMac this time.

 

[mmphosis]

Today, I am doing layout2 in the devlog. My firewire drive is back. It doesn't sound too healthy, but the I/O error might have to do with the firewire cable and not the drive.

I really like this step of removing i386 and X86_64 from the list.

 

[mectojic]

Today, after too many setbacks and problems, I completed my B&W upgrades:
G4 / 400 'Yikes' CPU
PCI Radeon 9200LE (128mb vram)
PCI USB 2.0
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Realtek 8169D (OS 9 compatible)
DVD ATA drive
60GB Sata SSD
896mb Ram (get addressing errors when booting OS9 on 1GB)
Mac OS 9.2.2 / OS X 10.4.11 (with Shuriken / Aqua theme)

With Cozo speakers, Apple Studio Display (blue), Macally kb and mouse.
Typing this on the B&W now, Macrumors runs well enough in Arctic Fox, so long as it's just one tab. Can download 360p videos from Iteroni, and ffplay playback is just good enough (which wasn't possible when using a G3/400).
Radeon 9200 is mostly for OS9 games.
Gigabit ethernet coupled with the SSD provides very fast file transfers from the home server.

 

[eyoungren]

Well, yesterday mainly.

Used my 17" Powerbook to check that the 23" Cinema Display I got off eBay works.



This display will replace the non-functional 23" Cinema Display I've posted about in the Early Intel section. The new display is a bit beat up, the seller was up front on that - but otherwise functions really well. Scratches on the screen and the case. I don't believe it was dropped, but it did get scraped in some way that has caused the bottom of the frame to warp slightly.

Aside from that, I have the feeling this screen is kind of like an old pickup truck. Beat up, but runs well and does the job. I paid $40 for it and since it's only function will be to display Finder windows and app palettes these scratches aren't a problem for me.

Planning on getting it hooked up to my Mac Pro today.

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

Today, after too many setbacks and problems, I completed my B&W upgrades:
G4 / 400 'Yikes' CPU
PCI Radeon 9200LE (128mb vram)
PCI USB 2.0
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Realtek 8169D (OS 9 compatible)
DVD ATA drive
60GB Sata SSD
896mb Ram (get addressing errors when booting OS9 on 1GB)
Mac OS 9.2.2 / OS X 10.4.11 (with Shuriken / Aqua theme)

With Cozo speakers, Apple Studio Display (blue), Macally kb and mouse.
Typing this on the B&W now, Macrumors runs well enough in Arctic Fox, so long as it's just one tab. Can download 360p videos from Iteroni, and ffplay playback is just good enough (which wasn't possible when using a G3/400).
Radeon 9200 is mostly for OS9 games.
Gigabit ethernet coupled with the SSD provides very fast file transfers from the home server.

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I would love to add one of those Macally keyboards to my collection - always liked them.

 

[eyoungren]

I would love to add one of those Macally keyboards to my collection - always liked them.

My first job in Arizona, we ordered several of those. At the time they were the only full-sized extended keyboards available as Apple hadn't yet been cowed into bring those back. Apple wanted everyone to use the puck mouse and the keyboard with the chiclet arrow keys.

 

[MarkC426]

Today, after too many setbacks and problems, I completed my B&W upgrades:
G4 / 400 'Yikes' CPU
PCI Radeon 9200LE (128mb vram)
PCI USB 2.0
PCI Gigabit Ethernet Realtek 8169D (OS 9 compatible)
DVD ATA drive
60GB Sata SSD
896mb Ram (get addressing errors when booting OS9 on 1GB)
Mac OS 9.2.2 / OS X 10.4.11 (with Shuriken / Aqua theme)

With Cozo speakers, Apple Studio Display (blue), Macally kb and mouse.
Typing this on the B&W now, Macrumors runs well enough in Arctic Fox, so long as it's just one tab. Can download 360p videos from Iteroni, and ffplay playback is just good enough (which wasn't possible when using a G3/400).
Radeon 9200 is mostly for OS9 games.
Gigabit ethernet coupled with the SSD provides very fast file transfers from the home server.

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Crazy looking keyboard....

 

[MarkC426]

This display will replace the non-functional 23" Cinema Display I've posted about in the Early Intel section.

Until I got to this line...I thought surely not ANOTHER display for your collection.....😁

 

[TheShortTimer]

Well, yesterday mainly.

Used my 17" Powerbook to check that the 23" Cinema Display I got off eBay works.

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Do I spy a potential addition to the eBay bargain thread?

Aside from that, I have the feeling this screen is kind of like an old pickup truck. Beat up, but runs well and does the job. I paid $40 for it and since it's only function will be to display Finder windows and app palettes these scratches aren't a problem for me.

These Apple displays seem to be quite popular among the community - I've never owned or used one. Are they better than those offered by other manufacturers?

Planning on getting it hooked up to my Mac Pro today.

Which means you have to post about it in the equivalent Early Intel thread.

 

[eyoungren]

Crazy looking keyboard....

They have a solid feel though. They keys always gave that impression when pressing them.

 

[MarkC426]

These Apple displays seem to be quite popular among the community - I've never owned or used one. Are they better than those offered by other manufacturers?

The build quality is top-notch.
I got one many many years back (when they where current), which work paid for when I cashed in some un-used holidays....😃, I recall it was about £900.
Absolutely loved it, still have it and the box, both look brand new.
However (as mentioned in another thread) a single horizontal line of white pixels appeared years ago, which annoyed me, so it got boxed.
It worked perfectly otherwise.

 

[eyoungren]

Until I got to this line...I thought surely not ANOTHER display for your collection.....😁

LOL!

I'd have to add another video card or one of those Display Link devices. I do have a DisplayLink device I am not using, but six displays seems to be my comfort zone.

 

[eyoungren]

Do I spy a potential addition to the eBay bargain thread?

Hadn't though about that, but I should!

These Apple displays seem to be quite popular among the community - I've never owned or used one. Are they better than those offered by other manufacturers?

I resisted getting them for a very long time because I had my G4 and I wanted to keep the acrylic thing going. But, I also have wanted the 30" Display for a very long time as well. That one time I saw a local buy for one at $100, I jumped on it.

As you know, I've got two of those 30" displays now.

These displays were very expensive when they came out, but also, good quality as @MarkC426 mentioned. At my old job, my boss there bought the 20" Cinema Display in February 2005 when he got me the PowerMac G5 I used in that job. When the business was sold in October 2018 that display was still functioning and being used.

They are bright and sharp and while they aren't as 'high-def' as newer displays they do have one advantage. You get the full 16:10 aspect ratio and not 16:9. For instance, with my 30" Displays I have 2560x1600 pixels. But the 27" displays that replaced the 30" CD only have 2560x1400.

Additionally, all the Cinema Displays are matte and not glossy.

Which means you have to post about it in the equivalent Early Intel thread.

Oh, I will. It'll also end up in the 'Post your setup' thread too. I've been putting off and putting off redoing my work area because it means disconnecting, moving and reconnecting everything (as well as cleaning and vacuuming). But that's happening today. My last excuse to myself has been removed with the arrival of this new display.

 

[Amethyst1]

These Apple displays seem to be quite popular among the community - I've never owned or used one. Are they better than those offered by other manufacturers?

Top-notch build quality, matte IPS panels. They don’t have a built-in scaler though, so you have to use GPU scaling if you want to run lower resolutions for gaming or anything.

They are bright and sharp and while they aren't as 'high-def' as newer displays they do have one advantage. You get the full 16:10 aspect ratio and not 16:9. For instance, with my 30" Displays I have 2560x1600 pixels. But the 27" displays that replaced the 30" CD only have 2560x1400.

The Huawei MateView (28.2” 3840×2560 3:2) is the spiritual successor to the 30” IMHO. Using a 2560×1707 HiDPI mode gives you even more vertical screen estate than a 30” at 2560×1600 and is much sharper. I have two MateViews, they are awesome.

Additionally, all the Cinema Displays are matte and not glossy.

The 24”/27” LED Cinema Displays are 16:9 and very glossy.

 

[eyoungren]

The 24”/27” LED Cinema Displays are 16:9 and very glossy.

OK, ok. I meant the original Cinema Displays, not the later ones right before the Thunderbolt Displays.

But I was not clear on that.

As to the Huawei MateView, then you've given me an upgrade path at some point. I don't expect my Cinema displays to last forever. At some point they will fail and have to be replaced.

I also see curved screens in my future, especially with my Mac Minis. I've just been waiting for prices on those to drop in to my price range without them being broken/for parts only.

 

[TheShortTimer]

I recall it was about £900.

£900 GBP? Ouch, but then I should've expected nothing less when it comes to brand new Apple items.

That's some hefty outlay - and when combined with the cost of a Mac Pro, goodness!

Absolutely loved it, still have it and the box, both look brand new.
However (as mentioned in another thread) a single horizontal line of white pixels appeared years ago, which annoyed me, so it got boxed.
It worked perfectly otherwise.

I resisted getting them for a very long time because I had my G4 and I wanted to keep the acrylic thing going. But, I also have wanted the 30" Display for a very long time as well. That one time I saw a local buy for one at $100, I jumped on it.

As you know, I've got two of those 30" displays now.

These displays were very expensive when they came out, but also, good quality as @MarkC426 mentioned. At my old job, my boss there bought the 20" Cinema Display in February 2005 when he got me the PowerMac G5 I used in that job. When the business was sold in October 2018 that display was still functioning and being used.

They are bright and sharp and while they aren't as 'high-def' as newer displays they do have one advantage. You get the full 16:10 aspect ratio and not 16:9. For instance, with my 30" Displays I have 2560x1600 pixels. But the 27" displays that replaced the 30" CD only have 2560x1400.

Additionally, all the Cinema Displays are matte and not glossy.

Top-notch build quality, matte IPS panels. They don’t have a built-in scaler though, so you have to use GPU scaling if you want to run lower resolutions for gaming or anything.

Thanks for the replies - now I understand why they're so highly regarded and sought after. If I come across one at a reasonable price, I'll consider grabbing it.

 

[Amethyst1]

£900 GBP? Ouch, but then I should've expected nothing less when it comes to brand new Apple items.

My acrylic 20” cost 1,500 euros at the beginning of 2003. Plus 100 or so for the DVI-to-ADC adapter since I was one of the few crazy ones who used the acrylic with a PC. It served me well for seven and a half years, and I only replaced it because the backlight had dimmed noticeably, and the call of the then-new 27” 2560×1440 displays that offered almost the 30”’s real estate at a fraction of the cost was too much to resist.

The 27” display i bought in October 2010 “only” cost 900 euros… and died three and a half years later.

 

[eyoungren]

Thanks for the replies - now I understand why they're so highly regarded and sought after. If I come across one at a reasonable price, I'll consider grabbing it.

Whatever app/website/word of mouth/etc that you use to find the stuff you buy, just keep an eye on it.

Sometimes (more often than not), the people who sell/get rid of Cinema Displays do not understand how they function. You will not get a powerlight on these displays unless it's plugged in to power AND plugged into a video card. So some sellers will test by plugging them in, seeing no OSD and then just assuming it's not-functional.

Other people think that because they are so old they must not be worth anything.

I guarantee you though, once you get one and hook it up and use it (even if it's just the 20" Cinema Display) you WILL understand what we've all been talking about, and why.