What have you done with a PowerPC today?

[MultiFinder17]

Well I got 2 iBook G4’s in the mail and ordered a 15” PowerBook that needs work. I have so many PowerPC Macs but I can’t help myself. Anybody want a nice iBook g4 with a great battery?

Man, I’ve been after a decent 12” iBook for a while now! Lucky mate!

 

[ScreenSavers]

Man, I’ve been after a decent 12” iBook for a while now! Lucky mate!

I’d love to sell you one. Send me a PM if you are interested.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Yes, for most, but they're not that difficult to crack open; I've had more trouble with cracking open MagSafe chargers than with the battery cases. Just make sure you drain the battery first if it's still got some charge, and try not to puncture it. A putty knife and a heat gun are usually enough to get the sealed ones open.

Isn’t it still possible to buy batteries for older MacBook/MacBook Pro systems ?
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Are PowerPC PowerBooks, iBooks affected by slower speed when there isn’t a battery or full battery like the MacBook and MacBook Pro ?

 

[felipeerojasm]

I played AoE II and Caesar III on my 12" iBook G3 Late 2002. Now I'm restoring some discs on my PowerBook G4 to install Jaguar on the iBook: I miss the pinstripes.

 

[ScreenSavers]

Isn’t it still possible to buy batteries for older MacBook/MacBook Pro systems ?
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Are PowerPC PowerBooks, iBooks affected by slower speed when there isn’t a battery or full battery like the MacBook and MacBook Pro ?

Some PowerBooks and iBooks are impossible to find batteries for. Some of the 15 inch PowerBooks they still make aftermarket ones. I don’t think they slow down if you just use them on an AC adapter though.

I have been searching forever for a battery for my 12 inch PowerBook.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Luckily for me, I have a friend who repairs and replaces battery packs - I am not good with soldering, so if I provide him the lithium batteries, he can usually take apart any battery pack and install them. Yes, it’s getting harder to find PowerPC battery packs for any PowerBook and the ones on eBay are dead or messed up.

Sadly, we need to buy lithium batteries and redo a whole battery pack, but this is the way it is since it’s been almost If not 20 years since PPC stopped being made.

 

[2984839]

Isn’t it still possible to buy batteries for older MacBook/MacBook Pro systems ?
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Are PowerPC PowerBooks, iBooks affected by slower speed when there isn’t a battery or full battery like the MacBook and MacBook Pro ?

My 1 GHz Tibook downclocks to 667 MHz if no battery is detected. A new battery and a PMU reset fixed that. Not sure if other models do this.

 

[ScreenSavers]

My 1 GHz Tibook downclocks to 667 MHz if no battery is detected. A new battery and a PMU reset fixed that. Not sure if other models do this.

That’s interesting. Mine still has a great battery after all these years - and it’s an original Apple battery. Also 1GHz.

 

[Macbookprodude]

I think I wasted money on msata M2 for my Pismo - tenfourfox is not I repeat not great at all on this G4 Pismo - it renders my machine useless. Back in 1999-2000 I am hard pressed to think this machine was even slow then as it is now. Tenfourfox will be the end of PPC and Kaiser knows it’s - I don’t buy that what he says that Gecko is slower. But with an msata M2 PCIe ?? This thing is slow and unusable in Tiger.

 

[Dronecatcher]

I think I wasted money on msata M2 for my Pismo - tenfourfox is not I repeat not great at all on this G4 Pismo - it renders my machine useless. Back in 1999-2000 I am hard pressed to think this machine was even slow then as it is now. Tenfourfox will be the end of PPC and Kaiser knows it’s - I don’t buy that what he says that Gecko is slower. But with an msata M2 PCIe ?? This thing is slow and unusable in Tiger.

Where you trying TFF immediately after installing the OS? If so it was probably busy indexing the drive with Spotlight.

Have you used an altered prefs file? What about the user agent - the default one loads full featured pages and is very hard going on any machine.

No matter what system it's on, TFF is always slower than legacy browsers, always has been - it loads more at start into memory so it doesn't have to later on.

Also, given that it's attempting to be a contemporary browser it shouldn't be expected to be as fast as a redundant browser from 10 years ago.

You should also try IceWeaselPPC and maybe recalibrate your expectations of a web browser on such an old Powerbook in 2020.

 

[Amethyst1]

I think I wasted money on msata M2 for my Pismo - tenfourfox is not I repeat not great at all on this G4 Pismo

An SSD will not make websites load quicker.

 

[Macbookprodude]

An SSD will not make websites load quicker.

If only the Pismo had QE/CI - I know the G4 titanium 1Ghz will be a lot faster. Drone catcher - can you send me the last updated prefs for tenfourfox ? I will try those. Iceweasel runs in tiger ? I need to try that. As for SSD ? So it only assists with opening apps and booting the system. I sure wish it would at least open tenfourfox faster.

 

[Dronecatcher]

If only the Pismo had QE/CI - I know the G4 titanium 1Ghz will be a lot faster. Drone catcher - can you send me the last updated prefs for tenfourfox ? I will try those. Iceweasel runs in tiger ? I need to try that. As for SSD ? So it only assists with opening apps and booting the system. I sure wish it would at least open tenfourfox faster.

Try these or FoxPEP...or ideally make your own to suit your needs.

 

[Macbookprodude]

Ok, I have some great news to report ! My PB G4 1 GHZ Titanium arrived today and the seller obviously cared very much to place a powerful clamp on the part of the screen where in the picture the hinge showed coming off. That was a surprise which I am grateful, very grateful to the seller for that. This Titanium G4 1GHZ is really nice, except it has a 60gb 5200 rpm hard drive. I may replace the drive with the ssd thats in my pismo. The 1MB of cache helps very much in making it nice and speedy. Also, I notice the G4 fan is kinda loud in this - maybe the processor needs more paste ? So, based on the fact, that the screen has been secured with a strong(very strong) clamp, it opens and closes at will now.

I may try to install Leopard on this. I do feel this is more powerful thanks to the 1MB L3 cache than the 7447 17 inch DLSD PB G4 1.67 - This also has a UJ-816 super drive. The keyboard feels nice and a pleasure to type - I am typing this currently on the 1ghz G4 using Iceweasel. Thank you, Dronecatcher - I will install FoxPEP and the the new preferences file.

I will be uploading pics of this nice PB G4 Titanium 1ghz with the clamp. Battery holds a strong charge with only 45 charges. according to the seller. So, does the G4 in these make the fans go on ?

 

[bobesch]

Tonight TLC to a 30bucks M5884 PB-G4 400MHz (Original-Ti), that arrived today. Came with the original Jojo-charger and Bondi-translucent power-cord.
Battery completely dead with signs of previous drainage. Fortunately nothing harmed.
I wonder if there will be a battery-replacement for a reasonable price..
Gonna install os9 - it's a great machine/display for os9. No constant fan activity, like with the 1GHz Ti-Book.
Unfortunately the screen has some scratches due to contact with the handset. When I wipe the screen with a wet cleaning-towel, these scratches disappear until all fluid has dried up... Is there any trick to fix those scratches? (update: small amout of petroleum jelly followed by gentle polishing with a soft microfiber-towel did a good job.)
Ups, one of the hinges shows a litte crack. I' ve tried to fix that with superglue ... maybe a stupid idea.
Found a seller in Italy, who has replacement for three missing keys in stock.
Nearly every key of the keyboard was sticky with remnants of previously used key-stickers. After trials with desinfectant and benzin it proved, that simply a wet microfiber-towel was the best option, to clean the keys and remove the sticky goop.

 

[bobesch]

Ok, I have some great news to report ! My PB G4 1 GHZ Titanium arrived today and the seller obviously cared very much to place a powerful clamp on the part of the screen where in the picture the hinge showed coming off. That was a surprise which I am grateful, very grateful to the seller for that. This Titanium G4 1GHZ is really nice, except it has a 60gb 5200 rpm hard drive. I may replace the drive with the ssd thats in my pismo. The 1MB of cache helps very much in making it nice and speedy. Also, I notice the G4 fan is kinda loud in this - maybe the processor needs more paste ? So, based on the fact, that the screen has been secured with a strong(very strong) clamp, it opens and closes at will now.

I may try to install Leopard on this. I do feel this is more powerful thanks to the 1MB L3 cache than the 7447 17 inch DLSD PB G4 1.67 - This also has a UJ-816 super drive. The keyboard feels nice and a pleasure to type - I am typing this currently on the 1ghz G4 using Iceweasel. Thank you, Dronecatcher - I will install FoxPEP and the the new preferences file.

I will be uploading pics of this nice PB G4 Titanium 1ghz with the clamp. Battery holds a strong charge with only 45 charges. according to the seller. So, does the G4 in these make the fans go on ?

You'll have to live with the fan-activity. I'm annoyed by the same problem on a very same machine.
The TiBooks are great os9-machines. - But they're definitely not better than the 1,67GHz PB-G4

 

[Macbookprodude]

You'll have to live with the fan-activity. I'm annoyed by the same problem on a very same machine.
The TiBooks are great os9-machines. - But they're definitely not better than the 1,67GHz PB-G4

Well, doesn't the 1MB L3 help ? I feel the 1.67 DLSD was kinda slow because it lacked L3 cache. In either case, so there is one small problem with my Titanium 1ghz - the left speaker is out.. will this fit it ?

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Once I know for sure.. since I don't know how to fix this myself.. I survived putting in an SSD - when I took off the cover, it was plastic very cheesy... and I was afraid as I spent like 85 dollars for this.. everything works on it, except for the left speaker.. right speaker is fine. Does replacing the hard drive interfere with the speaker wires? I did not see any speaker wires underneath the hard drive area when I replaced it with my SSD from the Pismo.

If anyone who is in the USA and not too far can assist with the repair of the speaker, I will gladly pay what ever its worth for the repair.

 

[Macbookprodude]

That’s interesting. Mine still has a great battery after all these years - and it’s an original Apple battery. Also 1GHz.

Hi, can you explain to me what I need to fix the left speaker ? Like you I have the G4 1GHZ Titanium wilth L3 cache, however the left speaker is not working at all, the right one is fine. Do I need the whole top case for this or can I get the speakers separately ?

 

[ScreenSavers]

Hi, can you explain to me what I need to fix the left speaker ? Like you I have the G4 1GHZ Titanium wilth L3 cache, however the left speaker is not working at all, the right one is fine. Do I need the whole top case for this or can I get the speakers separately ?

My speakers both work fine – I would imagine they are replaceable separately even though I am not sure if they would be easy to find.

 

[2984839]

I used the Tibook to connect to its newest non-Intel compatriot, a Pinebook Pro, and get it set up the way I want. It works well, and I like it.

 

[Macbookprodude]

My speakers both work fine – I would imagine they are replaceable separately even though I am not sure if they would be easy to find.

I found them on eBay..

 

[RogerWilco6502]

I'm slowly working to update my site with new pics and such from my iBook G3

 

[Macbookprodude]

Went to try tenfivetube on my PB Titanium only to get ARTIFACTS !!! Obviously this seller, who never responded to my messages on eBay, ever never made a disclaimer that the graphics chip maybe bad.. is there a way I can get ebay involved ??? The seller needs to know this.

 

[bobesch]

After some time of abstinence I got weak for an offer of another TiBook and a PB-G3-Lombard. Came for 70 bucks each.
First impression was really bad: they were wrapped in wallpapers from the 80ies. Sort of plastic-covered Wallpapers with an horrible smell, that came close to the smell of the white iBooks-G3.
Both got a really thorough cleaning and I think, the Mercury is now close to sterile ...
Except of the dead batteries and missing rubber-feet and 3 missing keys on the Mercury, everything else is in a very good condition.
Well, the 5GB spinner of the Lombard is humming a bit.
Both machines are supposed to run os9 and they do very well.
This weekend both got os9.22 - one with the German - the other with the US-version of os9. Both got installed my favorite office- and connectivity-applications and they are connected by my two Vonets WLAN-to-Ethernet bridges.
Thinking of about 1998, when os8.6/os9 were around while I was hassling with Win98SE in a cheap beige box & CRT these machines were outstanding.
I had good fun in connecting the os9 devices within our home network and they did really fine.
To be honest: I went for the Lombard not because of enthusiastic comments in this forum, but to proove, that it is as ugly in reality, as it looks to me on the pictures. (Even worse than my ACER Travelmate 800 copycat from 2003 ...)
It is not a real beauty - but after tinkering with it the whole day to get os9.22 running without quirks I'm now somehow dedicated to this machine and it's bronze keyboard.
Resembles the entrance of Chrysler Building ...
Here's a picture of it ...
(The wallpaper is a naturally faded old photograph from highscool. Visiting Paris; Montmartre et l'Hotel des Invalides in the background).
PS: And I'm really impressed of the sound of the speakers!

 

[bobesch]

Went to try tenfivetube on my PB Titanium only to get ARTIFACTS !!! Obviously this seller, who never responded to my messages on eBay, ever never made a disclaimer that the graphics chip maybe bad.. is there a way I can get ebay involved ??? The seller needs to know this.

Even the fastest TiBook cannot cope with the expectations in any web-browsing.
Nor with Classilla neither with TFF.
To choose a TiBook over the fastest PowerBook-G4 (the DLSD) has not been wise.
Thinking too much about that too much is also not an option!
(full stop)
Any 15" Core2Duo MBP from late-2008 or later (c2duo!) or a/THE mid-2012 15" MBP would be the machines, that might cause lesser pain, than those ones, you've already tried.
No intel i5/i7 15" MBP from 2010-2011! No early-intels (up to early-2008)! All of them are prone to GPU-failure!!!
Forget about the combination of Your TiBook and Web-Browsing. That's only a source for getting depressions.
The Ti-Book is fine for os9 (and more), but severely limited, when it comes to compressed-video and web-browsing.
PowerPC is either a specialized tool, a piece of collected computing-history or a toy, but no such think to make you happy with internet-browsing, cloud, commercial-video-streaming etc.
Please take that advise...