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[Rafterman]

Watched it in the theater. Personally, I found Afterlife much better. Frozen Empire has many, many faults that completely surprised me (in a bad way). Too many “main characters”, the side “ghost friend” story was just stupid, the end resolution doesn’t make sense, and the teenager that knows how to do everything for the sake of knowing everything is just an overused trope that if I see again I might go postal. On top of that, the original cast barely has any impact on the plot and movie.

They were clearly trying to set up for spinoffs (girl, lab, family, ghost world) to squeeze the IP, but considering how badly frozen empire bombed I am pretty sure that this is the last “Ghostbusters” for a while if not forever. What a pity.

I don't know, the ending made sense to me, though a little contrived (they have nuclear proton packs, but no one had a lighter or a match or could find a way to produce a flame, until ghost girl saw the error in her ways and saved the day?) OK, little formula. But no sequel will ever be able to match the original, and that's OK.

Plus, Paul Rudd is a likable enough goofball. Akroyd had a significant part, but Murray, Hudson and Potts were just essentially cameos.

 

[rhett7660]

Good low budget movie. It feels even more poignant to know that they decided to remove from the movie one of the brothers that in real life died of suicide because the story was already sad enough.

Wait there was another brother who died of suicide? They had two in the movie, the one that went out into the woods and then the gunshot to the chest one. There was another one?!?!? Holy smokes.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Wait there was another brother who died of suicide? They had two in the movie, the one that went out into the woods and then the gunshot to the chest one. There was another one?!?!? Holy smokes.

Sadly, yes:

Chris Von Erich, the youngest member of the family, was not included in the screenplay because, according to Durkin, "it was one more tragedy that the film couldn't really withstand". Chris died by suicide in 1991, a year and a half prior to Kerry Von Erich, and he was the fourth family death (after Jack Jr., David, and Mike)

 

[rhett7660]

Sadly, yes:

Chris Von Erich, the youngest member of the family, was not included in the screenplay because, according to Durkin, "it was one more tragedy that the film couldn't really withstand". Chris died by suicide in 1991, a year and a half prior to Kerry Von Erich, and he was the fourth family death (after Jack Jr., David, and Mike)

Holy smokes... That is just rough. I am now reading about this family and good lord.

 

[yaxomoxay]

I don't know, the ending made sense to me, though a little contrived (they have nuclear proton packs, but no one had a lighter or a match or could find a way to produce a flame, until ghost girl saw the error in her ways and saved the day?) OK, little formula

Precisely, it doesn’t make any sense. And the teenager almost magically knows how to modify a proton pack to include the needed mineral, does it basically by herself in the span of five seconds, and saves the day.

Plus - and this pissed me off as someone that loves the original IP - everyone has a proton pack, including Podcast and the lab people. I think that there are at least 12 of them at the end, if not more as they now can produce them easily. This completely destroys the magic of it, the idea of the “forbidden object” that only a few people can (barely) manage.

But no sequel will ever be able to match the original, and that's OK.

Agreed. That’s why I think that Afterlife is a better sequel; it was a nice homage to the original movie, with several throwbacks to the events of NYC and a few fun innovations.

Plus, Paul Rudd is a likable enough goofball. Akroyd had a significant part, but Murray, Hudson and Potts were just essentially cameos.

If that.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Holy smokes... That is just rough. I am now reading about this family and good lord.

Yea.

I made the mistake of looking at their story on Wikipedia after I watched the movie thinking “they probably exaggerated some parts to make it more dramatic.” Little did I know that they actually held back.

 

[rhett7660]

Yea.

I made the mistake of looking at their story on Wikipedia after I watched the movie thinking “they probably exaggerated some parts to make it more dramatic.” Little did I know that they actually held back.

That is what I am reading now... they actually held back a lot. This poor family. Makes me wonder, if the father was portrayed "accurately", or was he worse? Some of the comments he made in the film were straight, cut to the bone and can leave one scared for life.

 

[Rafterman]

If that.

Alas, the heart of the first film was the late, great Harold Ramis. Bill Murray got the best lines, and Dan Akroyd was the eager, excitable beaver, But Ramis was the perfect straightman, who managed to steal the movie.

 

[Rafterman]

I just bought from iTunes - Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films, 1954–1975

14 Godzilla films in HD, from the original Godzilla to titles like Godzilla Raids Again and Godzilla vs Gigan. Not bad for $99.

 

[Pezimak]

Se7en (1995)
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A Dark and disturbing watch that will stay with you forever. Se7en's near perfectly executed by both cast & crew, the atmosphere palpable throughout. Slants towards horror rather than solely a thriller, further building on the tension...

Q-6

An excellent film really gritty and well made. Saw it once fully, and it still stuck in my mind as it’s so good. VERY few films have pulled of the serial killer story as well IMO.

 

[ucfgrad93]

Indeed.

The late, great, Alan Rickman.

Personally, I'd (more than happily) watch him (and, above all, listen to him) reading the telephone directory.

Agreed, he was a great actor and had a very distinctive voice.

 

[pachyderm]

I guess I'm not a big fan of David Lynch films... just so so for me.

Never was a big Kevin Spacey fan, even less of one these days. Another film hyped so much there was no way it could live up to my expectations. So so as well...

 

[C0ncreteBl0nde]

Just finished "Poltergeist" for my nth time. Don't know how many times I've seen it, but it's always far enough in between times that I forget something and always enjoy it. <From another Carol Ann>

 

[Rafterman]

I found gold: an unreleased 1994 version of the Fantastic 4, produced by Roger Corman. I'm watching that tonight

 

[Rafterman]

I found gold: an unreleased 1994 version of the Fantastic 4, produced by Roger Corman. I'm watching that tonight

Watched it. It was basically just a TV movie in quality, though planned as a film release. Not the worst thing I ever saw, but I can see why they pulled it, it didn’t feel like a film production. Definitely low budget and the ending was just “blah.” Rebecca Staab (as Susan) was kind of hot though

 

[yaxomoxay]

I guess I'm not a big fan of David Lynch films... just so so for me.

BLASPHEMY!!

Never was a big Kevin Spacey fan, even less of one these days. Another film hyped so much there was no way it could live up to my expectations. So so as well...

DOUBLE BLASPHEMY!!

Some posts should be met with immediate ban.

😂 jk of course. If it’s not your cup of tea, it’s not your cup of tea. Personally, they are among my all-time favorites.

Now, if you want a nice, original, neo-noir I’d recommend the low-budget “Brick”.

 

[Rafterman]

Watched it. It was basically just a TV movie in quality, though planned as a film release. Not the worst thing I ever saw, but I can see why they pulled it, it didn’t feel like a film production. Definitely low budget and the ending was just “blah.” Rebecca Staab (as Susan) was kind of hot though

Actually, I learned the story of the film. It was never meant to be released. The company that was given the rights to the Fantastic Four had to start shooting something before the rights ran out. So they gave Roger Corman a million dollars, just to shoot something and retain the rights. Rights that later were used on the "real" movie they wanted to make with a $50 million budget.

But they never intended to release the movie. The stars of the movie and the people who made it, the director, etc, worked on their own finish the movie covertly and market it, until the studio actually put out a cease and desist order. Fascinating story.

 

[DaveFromCampbelltown]

Watched The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

That took me down the rabbit hole of --

• Two books, one with the same name, the other called Churchills Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warefare of the same name, one basically a story of the film, and the other a history of the SOE
• Another book called Winston Churchills Toyshop, and a BBC documentary of the same
• And another book, which I haven't started yet, called Gubbins SOE
• A documentary called The Real Heroes of Telemark, which was basically the SOE's first big operation

Interestingly, both Fleming brothers (Ian, of 007 fame, and his big brother Peter) were both involved in the SOE.

 

[pachyderm]

BLASPHEMY!!

DOUBLE BLASPHEMY!!

Some posts should be met with immediate ban.

😂 jk of course. If it’s not your cup of tea, it’s not your cup of tea. Personally, they are among my all-time favorites.

Now, if you want a nice, original, neo-noir I’d recommend the low-budget “Brick”.

lol

Yeah, I'm surprised as well. I'd heard a lot of great things about both.

 

[VulchR]

...
I guess I'm not a big fan of David Lynch films
...

The point about David Lynch films is that there is no point to madness. I can never decide if I am enjoying his films or watching out of morbid curiosity. I think maybe the latter.

 

[pachyderm]

The point about David Lynch films is that there is no point to madness. I can never decide if I am enjoying his films or watching out of morbid curiosity. I think maybe the latter.

pretty much the same for me

 

[Chuckeee]

Well what about Eraserhead? David Lynch at his weirdest

 

[yaxomoxay]

Well what about Eraserhead? David Lynch at his weirdest

I think Inland Empire is his weirdest.

 

[VisceralRealist]

I love Mulholland Dr.

One of those films that blew me away the first time I saw it, and then upon the second viewing, I picked up on so much more that I missed the first time and it was even more fascinating to me. (It's also a fun movie to watch with someone who's never seen any David Lynch and observe their reactions).

I'll admit I could not watch Inland Empire. I tried, but it was just a little too surreal. Felt like I was watching footage of someone's ineffable dream.

 

[yaxomoxay]

I love Mulholland Dr.

❤️

I'll admit I could not watch Inland Empire. I tried, but it was just a little too surreal. Felt like I was watching footage of someone's ineffable dream.

Try to get the 4K restored release (which has MUCH better audio tracks), and watch it with subtitles. It took me 3 viewings before I appreciated it. Now it’s probably my favorite Lynch movie, it’s very, very deep and poignant. But yea, it requires some effort.

Surprisingly, my wife always watched the first 20 mins or so and then basically refused to keep watching but she - and our youngest son - came with me to watch the 4K version at the theater. After the movie, watched on a huge screen with great audio, she couldn’t stop talking about it. Literally for two hours she kept talking about it and how good it was and she was surprised how well Lynch understood a woman’s mind during a crisis. My kid also loved it.