iPhone 8/Plus What some reasons the iPhone 8 Plus is better than the X?

[Clogger]

So when I argue the points you have presented you tell me you agree with them all. Okay.

And then you bring a new facet to the argument about people buying on credit. What?

And then you personally attack me, calling me 'clueless' and a liar. You owe me an apology.
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How someone decides to pay for an item is immaterial to the discussion. Does the iPhone X produce more sales than the iPhone 8? Yes. Do people pay a lot more for their iPhone's than they do the family pet because the iPhone is more important to them? Yes.

As for arguing the tenets of status symbology, there is no argument. Some embrace status symbols and enjoy the trappings of their wealth, some eschew status symbols as shallow, and some can't afford status symbols so they don't understand them at all. What cannot be denied is that when one person in the room has a used $29 iPhone 5 bought on Craigslist and the other walks in with this brand new $1,200 iPhone X bought from an Apple Store, people make assumptions about the success of one individual over another. I didn't create these perceptions. I don't make these rules. But they do exist.

No apology from me as I do think you are clueless, your grasp of basic economics is laughable. You are also rude, arrogant and condescending.

Everything I write will unfortunately be above your head, you haven't grasped anything I written thus far so more than likely that will not change, my original analogy of debating with you is like trying to catch air with a net still holds.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

The X has a bigger screen than the Plus. That is a fact. It’s longer, so less scrolling as it shows more vertical content.

The X has been the best selling iPhone each week since it’s launch. That is a fact per Apple press releases.

I was very good at geometry and reading comprehension in school, you aren’t going to win an argument as binary as this.
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All iPhone owners are not the same. The days of subsidized $0 iPhones are now over and we each pay full price.

Just like you travel with first class flyers, share roads with BMW drivers, and shake hands with Rolex wearers, there are those who can afford these luxuries and those who can’t.

That’s not a bad thing. That’s a good thing. It’s capitalism at its finest. I understand why this is shocking to some, why they can’t understand the cultural sea-change. Few years ago we were all the same, rich guy, poor guy, all with brand new $0 iPhone 5’s paid for by our carriers. Those days are over. Now it’s first class and coach. Same aircraft, very different passengers.

No it doesn't. You can't count the notches. I have owned both and currently the X. And it's a fact the Plus has the larger usable space. Taller does not make it larger, it just makes you scroll more. The 8 plus fit more on the screen so it doesn't have to go down the screen as much. At least 5 different people here are telling you that you are wrong. So get with the program dude. We just proved to you that the X isn't the best selling phone. The iPhone 8 was reported in January 22nd. http://bgr.com/2018/01/22/iphone-8-vs-iphone-x-sales-holiday-quarter-2017/ . That is a fact!

Apple’s iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, representing a much more traditional upgrade to the iPhone platform, made up 41 percent of iPhone sales during the quarter, compared to the 20 percent share that was earned by the iPhone X. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewansp...iphone8-success-failure-timcook/#3c1edd09641f

It seems you already lost this argument since you are 100% incorrect.
[doublepost=1518290284][/doublepost]Screen size X vs 8 plus.

Apple iPhone X's 5.8-inch screen is actually smaller than the 5.5-inch iPhone 8 Plus display

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-iPhone-Xs-5.8-inch-screen-is-actually-smaller-than-the-5.5-inch-iPhone-8-Plus-display_id98116

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[boltjames]

No apology from me as I do think you are clueless, your grasp of basic economics is laughable. You are also rude, arrogant and condescending.

Everything I write will unfortunately be above your head, you haven't grasped anything I written thus far so more than likely that will not change, my original analogy of debating with you is like trying to catch air with a net still holds.

I have no idea who you are before today and I will not remember you tomorrow. Sorry I'm not here to make you feel better about not owning an iPhone X, I'm sure someone else can fill that role for you.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

Good comparison. X has a smaller font just to fit things on the screen better because it's smaller.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPh...rison-Does-it-really-fit-more-content_id99644

 

[Falhófnir]

For my personal preference:
+ Larger screen
+ Non pentile screen
+ Standard aspect and shape screen
+ Touch ID rather than Face ID
+ Better battery life

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

How someone decides to pay for an item is immaterial to the discussion. Does the iPhone X produce more sales than the iPhone 8? Yes. Do people pay a lot more for their iPhone's than they do the family pet because the iPhone is more important to them? Yes.

As for arguing the tenets of status symbology, there is no argument. Some embrace status symbols and enjoy the trappings of their wealth, some eschew status symbols as shallow, and some can't afford status symbols so they don't understand them at all. What cannot be denied is that when one person in the room has a used $29 iPhone 5 bought on Craigslist and the other walks in with this brand new $1,200 iPhone X bought from an Apple Store, people make assumptions about the success of one individual over another. I didn't create these perceptions. I don't make these rules. But they do exist.

Nobody knows if the iPhone X sells better than the 8 apart from guessing. Some reports in the last few days are suggesting the 8 outsold the X so in reality neither you nor I know. I don’t take Timmy’s word for it after he exaggerated the success of the original Apple Watch.

Where I live people are not judged regarding their income because of what phone they are using. That is a stupid benchmark. If you sat all the people I work with around a table with their phones in front of them, there would be no class difference. High end flagship devices are available to anybody willing to buy them, even if it’s bought on tick. The same goes with cars. Ou can never assume as we live in a world full of credit.

This is why you assuming people who don’t have an iPhone X are poor is unreliable and false. Plenty of people can afford certain items but have no need to give fake impressions. I personally don’t need to show how much money I have because it’s nobody’s business but mine. Fake status symbols are for fake people living beyond their means.

 

[boltjames]

No it doesn't. You can't count the notches.

LOL, sure, don't count the notches because it makes you wrong. That's a clever way to try to win an argument that you can't win; just move the goalposts.

The notches house important information so that it doesn't pollute the rest of the display.

Taller does not make it larger, it just makes you scroll more. The 8 plus fit more on the screen so it doesn't have to go down the screen as much. At least 5 different people here are telling you that you are wrong. So get with the program dude.

When I open my email on the iPhone X and put it next to someone's email on the iPhone Plus I see more emails/previews in the list than the person does on the Plus. So I scroll less to get to more emails. First you argue simple geometry, now you're arguing simple physics. Like I said, you and your 5 people aren't going to win this one because you can't argue against fact.

We just proved to you that the X isn't the best selling phone. The iPhone 8 was reported in January 22nd. That is a fact!

No, it's not.

Those who try to discredit the iPhone X's fantastic success in its first quarter of selling either a) talk about units and not revenue or b) bundle together the 8 and 8 Plus as if they are 'one' phone when they are not.

I'll trust Tim Cook and the SEC ethics review board before I trust a 'poll' or a blogger. Not to mention that the iPhone X would have performed even better if it were sold for the full quarter (it launched in November, not October) and if there weren't stock shortages (took me a month to get my X even though I was up at 3AM on release night placing my order). Be real.

It seems you already lost this argument since you are 100% incorrect.

There is no loss because there is no argument. Unless, of course, you change the facts. Which is what you are trying to do. Look, the Plus is a dinosaur. There's no shame in that. Next year you'll have an iPhone X and that will be that. Then we'll all be on the same page.

 

[Clogger]

I have no idea who you are before today and I will not remember you tomorrow. Sorry I'm not here to make you feel better about not owning an iPhone X, I'm sure someone else can fill that role for you.

This seems to be your defacto responce i.e that some how people are jealous. I did own an Iphone X, unfortunately I didn't like it so sold it , now it is being enjoyed by some one else who can appreciate it.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

LOL, sure, don't count the notches because it makes you wrong. That's a clever way to try to win an argument that you can't win; just move the goalposts.



When I open my email on the iPhone X and put it next to someone's email on the iPhone Plus I see more emails/previews in the list than the person does on the Plus. So I scroll less to get to more emails. First you argue simple geometry, now you're arguing simple physics. Like I said, you and your 5 people aren't going to win this one because you can't argue against fact.



No, it's not.

Those who try to discredit the iPhone X's fantastic success in its first quarter of selling either a) talk about units and not revenue or b) bundle together the 8 and 8 Plus as if they are 'one' phone when they are not.

I'll trust Tim Cook and the SEC ethics review board before I trust a 'poll' or a blogger. Not to mention that the iPhone X would have performed even better if it were sold for the full quarter (it launched in November, not October) and if there weren't stock shortages (took me a month to get my X even though I was up at 3AM on release night placing my order). Be real.



There is no loss because there is no argument. Unless, of course, you change the facts. Which is what you are trying to do.

You are refusing to look at any of the facts or links I have posted. You are really worthless. I am done arguing here. I'll let many of the others deal with you. You should know by now that Tim Cook has been caught lying many times.
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LOL, sure, don't count the notches because it makes you wrong. That's a clever way to try to win an argument that you can't win; just move the goalposts.

The notches house important information so that it doesn't pollute the rest of the display.



When I open my email on the iPhone X and put it next to someone's email on the iPhone Plus I see more emails/previews in the list than the person does on the Plus. So I scroll less to get to more emails. First you argue simple geometry, now you're arguing simple physics. Like I said, you and your 5 people aren't going to win this one because you can't argue against fact.



No, it's not.

Those who try to discredit the iPhone X's fantastic success in its first quarter of selling either a) talk about units and not revenue or b) bundle together the 8 and 8 Plus as if they are 'one' phone when they are not.

I'll trust Tim Cook and the SEC ethics review board before I trust a 'poll' or a blogger. Not to mention that the iPhone X would have performed even better if it were sold for the full quarter (it launched in November, not October) and if there weren't stock shortages (took me a month to get my X even though I was up at 3AM on release night placing my order). Be real.



There is no loss because there is no argument. Unless, of course, you change the facts. Which is what you are trying to do. Look, the Plus is a dinosaur. There's no shame in that. Next year you'll have an iPhone X and that will be that. Then we'll all be on the same page.

You can't read either. I own an iPhone X now.

 

[boltjames]

You are refusing to look at any of the facts or links I have posted. You are really worthless. I am done arguing here. I'll let many of the others deal with you. You should know by now that Tim Cook has been caught lying many times.

Your 'facts' aren't facts. They are misrepresentations of the truth. The only thing the 8 Plus has over the X is its gargantuan body size. It loses right there. No one wants to shove a ping pong paddle in their jeans pocket. But, hey, ignore that fact too.

Tim Cook can't lie on an earnings call. He'd do jail time for that. Those numbers are scrutinized by Apple's financial team and independent auditors, it's not like Tim wakes up one morning, makes stuff up, and throws it out there.

Your personal attack is unwarranted. I have been nothing but polite and professional in this entire engagement and don't deserve your vitriol.
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Nobody knows if the iPhone X sells better than the 8 apart from guessing. Some reports in the last few days are suggesting the 8 outsold the X so in reality neither you nor I know. I don’t take Timmy’s word for it after he exaggerated the success of the original Apple Watch.

So you don't like the facts from the official Apple board call and press release so you wait two weeks and declare that it's just a "guess" because some clickbait blogs support alternative facts. Be real.

If you knew about what happens in big business you'd know that every word stated during an earnings call is scripted and that script has been reviewed (in Apple's case) by no less than 50 financiers and lawyers and independent auditors for accuracy and tone long before it is approved to be read aloud.

The iPhone X is Apple's best selling iPhone every week since it was released. That's a fact. Embrace it. Fighting it is futile. Funny thing about facts. They aren't up for debate.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

Your 'facts' aren't facts. They are misrepresentations of the truth. The only thing the 8 Plus has over the X is its gargantuan body size. It loses right there. No one wants to shove a ping pong paddle in their jeans pocket. But, hey, ignore that fact too.

Tim Cook can't lie on an earnings call. He'd do jail time for that. Those numbers are scrutinized by Apple's financial team and independent auditors, it's not like Tim wakes up one morning, makes stuff up, and throws it out there.

Your personal attack is unwarranted. I have been nothing but polite and professional in this entire engagement and don't deserve your vitriol.
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So you don't like the facts from the official Apple board call and press release so you wait two weeks and declare that it's just a "guess" because some clickbait blogs support alternative facts. Be real.

If you knew about what happens in big business you'd know that every word stated during an earnings call is scripted and that script has been reviewed (in Apple's case) by no less than 50 financiers and lawyers for accuracy and tone long before it is approved to be read aloud.

The iPhone X is Apple's best selling iPhone every week since it was released. That's a fact. Embrace it. Fighting it is futile. Funny thing about facts. They aren't up for debate.

I haven't attacked you. Per what I am reading you are attacking everyone else here. So, don't try to pull that.

 

[boltjames]

I haven't attacked you. Per what I am reading you are attacking everyone else here. So, don't try to pull that.

You called me "worthless", a personal attack. I am stating my perceptions of the behavior of large groups of people based on social and economic variances that sync with Apple's iPhone pricing structure as a way to illustrate why Apple asking consumers to spend over $1000 for a phone isn't a bad business decision.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

So you don't like the facts from the official Apple board call and press release so you wait two weeks and declare that it's just a "guess" because some clickbait blogs support alternative facts. Be real.

If you knew about what happens in big business you'd know that every word stated during an earnings call is scripted and that script has been reviewed (in Apple's case) by no less than 50 financiers and lawyers and independent auditors for accuracy and tone long before it is approved to be read aloud.

The iPhone X is Apple's best selling iPhone every week since it was released. That's a fact. Embrace it. Fighting it is futile. Funny thing about facts. They aren't up for debate.

No, but I do know the iPhone X has been on sale less time than the iPhone 8 so the claim the 8 has outsold the X could be very true.

Timmy may have spun the ‘outsold since it was released’ yarn to make it sound like it outsold the other models when he could have just said it outsold the other models if that was the case. It’s clever wording from the best marketing company in the world and you’re a sucker for a buzz word it seems. You don’t have any facts to suggest which iPhone has sold the most of least because Apple are careful not to split it down for easy analysis. Vague claims are always up for debate.

‘Big business’? Lol do me a favour with your superiority complex. You don’t know anything about me because unlike yourself I don’t boast on the internet to create fantasy. You’re as transparent as the next car salesman.

 

[GomerBoy]

I haven't attacked you. Per what I am reading you are attacking everyone else here. So, don't try to pull that.

Just ignore his comments in here...he’s wrong and he knows that...just trying to get a rise out of people. Very immature.

Anyway, the battery life in the 8 Plus is amazing, so anyone looking for that alone will want to pick one up. Once the X in a couple generations has better battery life that surpasses the 8 Plus, I’ll be tempted to make the jump. Nothing worse than being out for the whole day and having no place to charge up your phone. Never had this problem with my 8 Plus...easily lasts me all day with heavy use.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

You called me "worthless", a personal attack. I am stating my perceptions of the behavior of large groups of people based on social and economic variances that sync with Apple's iPhone pricing structure as a way to illustrate why Apple asking consumers to spend over $1000 for a phone isn't a bad business decision.

Laugh, but it's ok for you to insult all these other members too? Enough said.
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Just ignore his comments in here...he’s wrong and he knows that...just trying to get a rise out of people. Very immature.

Anyway, the battery life in the 8 Plus is amazing, so anyone looking for that alone will want to pick one up. Once the X in a couple generations has better battery life that surpasses the 8 Plus, I’ll be tempted to make the jump. Nothing worse than being out for the whole day and having no place to charge up your phone. Never had this problem with my 8 Plus...easily lasts me all day with heavy use.

Agreed. The X doesn't last near as long as my 8 plus did. And for the first time I bought a battery case to use when I travel so I don't run out of juice! Never had to do that before.

 

[Clogger]

Just a warning to other users here to not interact with BoltJames, I was reported to the mods for insulting him.

 

[Volusia]

For me, the 8+ offered every thing I wanted without the higher price tag; got it via an upgrade price deal with Sprint.

 

[raqball]

I don't have a stake in this debate as I've never had a Plus phone because I am not into the ginormous devices.. The argument over which is better is personal and based on each persons needs, wants, desire and usage.

The iPhone 8 Plus has things that will appeal to some more than the X does and the X has things that will appeal to some over the Plus.

I have the X and I dig it. I don't think I could ever go back to an iPhone with a home button after using the X but that's just me. I can't and won't 2nd guess someone if they choose the 8 Plus over the X.

We are all different and it's what makes the world turn. Apple sells the 8 Plus for a reason and there is obviously demand for it. Which sold more? Who really cares. I don't get any of Apples profit from either device so I can really care less which one Apple has sold more of.

If the 8 Plus appeals to you then cool beans! If the X appeals you then cool beans! I do think this is the last we will see of the current design though so those with the 8 Plus who dig the form factor and home button will either need to hold onto it for as long as they can or get use to the X form factor, which I think is what Apple is going to do going forward.

 

[Phone Junky]

Just a warning to other users here to not interact with BoltJames, I was reported to the mods for insulting him.

Put him on my ignore list along with a few others. Forum is now more enjoyable for me.

 

[thadoggfather]

For my personal preference:
+ Larger screen
+ Non pentile screen
+ Standard aspect and shape screen
+ Touch ID rather than Face ID
+ Better battery life

All makes sense except pen tile. What is bothersome about that particularly to you? It's a quality enough panel and apple to their credit tuned it really well to where traditional pentile traits are a non issue

 

[braddick]

Owning an 8 plus I can honestly admit it is a bit too big and I do long for the days of the 3GS where it just fit so perfectly in my pocket and also felt good to hold and use.
I can't speak of the X other than holding a friend's at work and it too was nice and comfy.

 

[akash.nu]

So when I argue the points you have presented you tell me you agree with them all. Okay.

And then you bring a new facet to the argument about people buying on credit. What?

And then you personally attack me, calling me 'clueless' and a liar. You owe me an apology.
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How someone decides to pay for an item is immaterial to the discussion. Does the iPhone X produce more sales than the iPhone 8? Yes. Do people pay a lot more for their iPhone's than they do the family pet because the iPhone is more important to them? Yes.

As for arguing the tenets of status symbology, there is no argument. Some embrace status symbols and enjoy the trappings of their wealth, some eschew status symbols as shallow, and some can't afford status symbols so they don't understand them at all. What cannot be denied is that when one person in the room has a used $29 iPhone 5 bought on Craigslist and the other walks in with this brand new $1,200 iPhone X bought from an Apple Store, people make assumptions about the success of one individual over another. I didn't create these perceptions. I don't make these rules. But they do exist.

Just got home from a birthday party of my a 21 years old and her friends of similar age group had a iPhone X whereas I was carrying an 8 Plus. Did that make the kid more successful in life than me just because he was carrying an iPhone X?! Wow?! I’d like to have some of that success. .... NOT.

 

[boltjames]

Just got home from a birthday party of my a 21 years old and her friends of similar age group had a iPhone X whereas I was carrying an 8 Plus. Did that make the kid more successful in life than me just because he was carrying an iPhone X?!

In the court of public perception, yes.

 

[Nisaja]

I have both an 8 Plus and a X. As much as I hate to admit it, 8 Plus shows more content. I did a side by side comparition of various apps. I've been wanting to post these somewhere so people can see what the difference is. The comparisons I saw on YouTube did not go this in-depth, so, here are my findings lol.

16:9 video

Zoomed

Widescreen movie trailer on YouTube

Typical mobile-friendly website

Instagram

Tapatalk

Facebook messenger chat

Music app

Mail

Bonus: off axis viewing

In conclusion, the Plus displays more because of the wider screen. When texting, if the texts are single row (short) texts, the X displays more content, but if the texts are longer, the Plus displays more. Widescreen movies are larger on the X.

I have many more pics. Let me know if anyone needs to see them or need to see how a particular app looks on both devices. Maybe I'll start a thread

 

[sean000]

I have both an 8 Plus and a X. As much as I hate to admit it, 8 Plus shows more content. I did a side by side comparition of various apps. I've been wanting to post these somewhere so people can see what the difference is. The comparisons I saw on YouTube did not go this in-depth, so, here are my findings lol.

16:9 video

Zoomed

Widescreen movie trailer on YouTube

Typical mobile-friendly website

Instagram

Tapatalk

Facebook messenger chat

Music app

Mail

Bonus: off axis viewing

In conclusion, the Plus displays more because of the wider screen. When texting, if the texts are single row (short) texts, the X displays more content, but if the texts are longer, the Plus displays more. Widescreen movies are larger on the X.

I have many more pics. Let me know if anyone needs to see them or need to see how a particular app looks on both devices. Maybe I'll start a thread

Why does it matter which one displays the most content? These are mobile devices. What really matters to me is which one is physically smaller, but still provides the same feature set (e.g., dual camera).

Of course if it is more important that your mobile device displays more content (maybe you game or watch movies on it), then the 8+ might be the better device for you if you value content area over compactness. Good thing Apple provides options for both use cases. Neither is really better than the other... one is just a better fit for some folks than the other.