iPhone 8/Plus What some reasons the iPhone 8 Plus is better than the X?

[newellj]

The 8 has no equal. It will easily outsell the X in Q1. 8 Plus sales dominate.

TBD. In Q4 the X apparently outsold the 8 and the 8 Plus, and almost outsold the two combined.

^^^ My error. Meant quarter ended 13/31.

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They all look the same when it’s in your pocket, unless you wear skinny jeans.

No, and that's a big point. The 8 Plus just doesn't fit into a lot of pockets.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

TBD. In Q4 the X apparently outsold the 8 and the 8 Plus, and almost outsold the two combined.

Wow if that’s correct I think the smartphone market is in a worse state than I had originally thought. I still haven’t seen an X in the wild and don’t know a single person who has bought one so it doesn’t bode well if it’s the biggest seller. There’s quite a few people from various parts of the world with the same observations so we know it’s not as popular as previous releases. Maybe the three models are keeping the sales figures in line or satisfactory?

No, and that's a big point. The 8 Plus just doesn't fit into a lot of pockets.

Indeed. My wife and her friends all wear spay-on jeans and the SE seems to be popular amongst young mums where I live. The smaller size appeals to certain consumers that’s for sure.

 

[Glideslope]

TBD. In Q4 the X apparently outsold the 8 and the 8 Plus, and almost outsold the two combined.

Q4 ended Sept 30th, 2017. The Feb 1 CC is for Q1. Highly unlikely more than 35 million X’s sold. Demand for the 8 Plus was vastly beyond expectation.

 

[noobinator]

I can easily fit the 8 Plus in my front pocket but I wear loose fitting jeans. The women I see with pluses jam them into their back pockets with half the phone sticking out lol

 

[akash.nu]

TBD. In Q4 the X apparently outsold the 8 and the 8 Plus, and almost outsold the two combined.

Q4 ended Sept 30th, 2017. The Feb 1 CC is for Q1. Highly unlikely more than 35 million X’s sold. Demand for the 8 Plus was vastly beyond expectation.

Where did you both get these details from? Didn’t see anything from Apple.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

TBD. In Q4 the X apparently outsold the 8 and the 8 Plus, and almost outsold the two combined.
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No, and that's a big point. The 8 Plus just doesn't fit into a lot of pockets.

No, the 8 and 8 plus outsold the X.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/26/iphone-x-outperformed-by-8-and-8-plus/

https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/10/iphone-x-sales-kantar/

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...and-iphone-8-plus-are-outselling-iphone-x.htm

 

[Mabsport]

I went from a 8 plus that I can honestly say was a lovely phone and as every plus model they are not small.
The X is a lovely designed phone and moves apple away from the stagnant repetitive looks of iPhones (In my opinion). I have had Apple computers and phones for many years and started to feel I was paying good money for not much change. Yes internals have changed but the bit you look at started to make me more reluctant to pay Apple the money.

The X is so much better as the hand gestures are second nature and not an issue at all and makes the device feel fresh and new. It feels so much better in the hand. I have had no issues at all with the Face ID day or night. If swipe up as you look at the screen it unlocks instant. The changes that would be nice is to unlock straight to the home screen without the swipe. Not a major issue but would be nice. The notch did bother me at first but after over a month its not a thing I notice daily. The cameras and tech needs to go somewhere.

The only real critical thing maybe for people who have less than 20/20 vision coming from a plus model. Some of the text can be small due the screen ratio and for some reason they have removed the screen zoom option that is on other phones.

My conclusion
It is a nice step forward in the evolution of the iPhone as standing still can cause failure. Look and Nokia Blackberry etc. Major leaders in the field and are now sadly gone as a competitor.
Only you as a person can decide whats best for you.

 

[Jimmy James]

Rubissh!! The x fits everywhere perfectly. The 8 plus cramps your hands. Ridiculous. Wayyyyyy tookooo big.

Rubish. The 8 fits perfectly everywhere. Nearly.

 

[newellj]

No, the 8 and 8 plus outsold the X.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/26/iphone-x-outperformed-by-8-and-8-plus/

https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/10/iphone-x-sales-kantar/

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...and-iphone-8-plus-are-outselling-iphone-x.htm

No, read what I wrote. The X outsold the 8 and the 8 Plus at an estimated 23% and 17%, respectively. Combined, they're 40% vs 30% for the X. But neither 23% nor 17% exceeds 30%. Actually, the interesting/almost shocking thing about those estimates is how well the 7, 7 Plus and 6S are still selling.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Actually, the interesting/almost shocking thing about those estimates is how well the 7, 7 Plus and 6S are still selling.

Is it really shocking though? They are still very capable iPhones and a hell of a lot cheaper than an 8 or an X. They are bound to be attractive to a good proportion of the market that don’t desire the latest and greatest. The older model trend has been slowly growing since 2015.

 

[newellj]

Is it really shocking though? They are still very capable iPhones and a hell of a lot cheaper than an 8 or an X. They are bound to be attractive to a good proportion of the market that don’t desire the latest and greatest. The older model trend has been slowly growing since 2015.

Fair point. (Thinking) I wonder how the profit margins compare on the 6S vs 7 vs 8 models?
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Rubish. The 8 fits perfectly everywhere. Nearly.

I had an X for five weeks and found that the X and my old/current 7 really fit into all the same spaces/clothes. The weight difference was actually more noticeable, but didn't make any difference, either.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

No, read what I wrote. The X outsold the 8 and the 8 Plus at an estimated 23% and 17%, respectively. Combined, they're 40% vs 30% for the X. But neither 23% nor 17% exceeds 30%. Actually, the interesting/almost shocking thing about those estimates is how well the 7, 7 Plus and 6S are still selling.

You obviously didn't read the links. Keep thinking the X outsold the 8 or 8 plus.

 

[44267547]

Is it really shocking though? They are still very capable iPhones and a hell of a lot cheaper than an 8 or an X. They are bound to be attractive to a good proportion of the market that don’t desire the latest and greatest. The older model trend has been slowly growing since 2015.

Speaking of the 6S, those phones are selling very quickly in 'good' used condition even without the battery replacement. I think that has to be one of Apples strongest iPhones in the last three years and it retains the headphone jack for those who want it, and of course it can qualify for the battery replacement program if applicable.

 

[newellj]

You obviously didn't read the links. Keep thinking the X outsold the 8 or 8 plus.

What is hard for you to understand about this, from the first linked article:

CIRP’s research, which analyzes the first 30 days of iPhone X sales, shows that the device accounted for roughly 30 percent of total iPhone sales. The iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus combined counted for around 40 percent of sales, with the former coming in at around 23 percent and the latter around 17 percent.​

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Speaking of the 6S, those phones are selling very quickly in 'good' used condition even without the battery replacement. I think that has to be one of Apples strongest iPhones in the last three years and it retains the headphone jack for those who want it, and of course it can qualify for the battery replacement program if applicable.

Indeed and I’m pretty happy with my 6S. M battery life has improved too since the last update so I’m pleased with that.

 

[Glideslope]

Where did you both get these details from? Didn’t see anything from Apple.

Ugh, Apple's Fiscal Year always ends in September? You're confused with Calendar Year. 35 million X's in my opinion.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

What is hard for you to understand about this, from the first linked article:

CIRP’s research, which analyzes the first 30 days of iPhone X sales, shows that the device accounted for roughly 30 percent of total iPhone sales. The iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus combined counted for around 40 percent of sales, with the former coming in at around 23 percent and the latter around 17 percent.​

Let's see here. iPhone X 30%, iPhone 8 40%. Enough said.
[doublepost=1516047497][/doublepost]I just picked up the iPhone X 256gb Silver today. Switching from my 8 plus. So far I like it. It is definitely smaller, so that is a change. The screen pops very nicely!

Battery, isn't holding up well, but I haven't given it a good charge yet either.

 

[newellj]

Let's see here. iPhone X 30%, iPhone 8 40%. Enough said.
[doublepost=1516047497][/doublepost]I just picked up the iPhone X 256gb Silver today. Switching from my 8 plus. So far I like it. It is definitely smaller, so that is a change. The screen pops very nicely!

Battery, isn't holding up well, but I haven't given it a good charge yet either.

Uh, no. iPhone 8 23%. iPhone 8 Plus 17%. Exactly as reported, and exactly as first posted. But really, thanks for playing.

 

[4RunnerHeaven]

Uh, no. iPhone 8 23%. iPhone 8 Plus 17%. Exactly as reported, and exactly as first posted. But really, thanks for playing.

Continue to twist your numbers all you want. There is only one iPhone 8. It's either 8 or in plus size. But it is the 8. There is only one X and no plus size right now. When there is, it will be combined in sales numbers as well. The 8 OUTSOLD the X period any way you look at it as all the news articles are saying.

http://bgr.com/2017/12/27/iphone-x-vs-iphone-8-sales-launch-month/

 

[newellj]

Continue to twist your numbers all you want. There is only one iPhone 8. It's either 8 or in plus size. But it is the 8. There is only one X and no plus size right now. When there is, it will be combined in sales numbers as well. The 8 OUTSOLD the X period any way you look at it as all the news articles are saying.

http://bgr.com/2017/12/27/iphone-x-vs-iphone-8-sales-launch-month/

Violation of ToU, but we'll see if you can figure out which. Until then, it's been a pleasure!

 

[coney718]

Looks ancient is subjective. You’d probably be surprised how many people give it no thought at all. I’ve honestly never even heard anyone use the word “bezels” when describing a phone in real life.

This is true and what I think alot of people in these tech forums dont understand. The average users (which is most of the buying public) dont know..or care about the stuff we do. Almost everyone i Know uses an iphone and never heard any of them complain about the design. As long as they can imessage, FT, Snapchat etc it doesnt really matter to them.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

This is true and what I think alot of people in these tech forums dont understand. The average users (which is most of the buying public) dont know..or care about the stuff we do. Almost everyone i Know uses an iphone and never heard any of them complain about the design. As long as they can imessage, FT, Snapchat etc it doesnt really matter to them.

Isn’t this the truth. An iPhone is an iPhone to most of the people I know and what model you own rarely gets noticed in my experience. It’s only tech geeks that really analyse these devices down to the finest millimetre. I think this is why the iPhone X has struggled to appeal to the average iPhone consumer, as once the price is mentioned, the next question is, ‘what’s the difference?’.

 

[joeblow7777]

Isn’t this the truth. An iPhone is an iPhone to most of the people I know and what model you own rarely gets noticed in my experience. It’s only tech geeks that really analyse these devices down to the finest millimetre. I think this is why the iPhone X has struggled to appeal to the average iPhone consumer, as once the price is mentioned, the next question is, ‘what’s the difference?’.

So true. Any time a mention a new phone or some other device to a non-techie person (which is most consumers) the first question is "so what does that do that mine can't?", and the answer is usually either something they don't care about, or just that it does the same things faster. This is the case with the 8 (especially 8 Plus) and the X, except it's not even faster. Most people don't think that not having bezels is worth paying more for, if they're even conscious of bezels at all. Similarly, most don't even know the difference between OLED and LCD. As far as most people are concerned, they're all just "the new iPhone" which is just an expensive gadget until next year's "new iPhone", and they don't really care as long as their iPhone is still taking pictures, texting, and accessing Instagram efficiently.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

So true. Any time a mention a new phone or some other device to a non-techie person (which is most consumers) the first question is "so what does that do that mine can't?", and the answer is usually either something they don't care about, or just that it does the same things faster. This is the case with the 8 (especially 8 Plus) and the X, except it's not even faster. Most people don't think that not having bezels is worth paying more for, if they're even conscious of bezels at all. Similarly, most don't even know the difference between OLED and LCD. As far as most people are concerned, they're all just "the new iPhone" which is just an expensive gadget until next year's "new iPhone", and they don't really care as long as their iPhone is still taking pictures, texting, and accessing Instagram efficiently.

I’ve noticed a shift in the last couple of years since smartphones have got so good. Those who religiously upgraded every 2 years are leaving it a little longer and pricing up options rather than automatically opting for the best iPhone etc. A lot of my friends are using iPhones more than two years old and this would never have been the case a few years ago. They are not poor people, just lacking in interest due to their needs being met.

You’re right about features that the average joe doesn’t care about too. Explaining to somebody that the new iPhone opens with your face rather than your finger or that it has a brighter OLED screen and you generally get a slow nodding acknowledgement lol. Riiiiight lol.

 

[44267547]

This is true and what I think alot of people in these tech forums dont understand. The average users (which is most of the buying public) dont know..or care about the stuff we do. Almost everyone i Know uses an iphone and never heard any of them complain about the design. As long as they can imessage, FT, Snapchat etc it doesnt really matter to them.

I mentioned this in another thread earlier, I was at a work meeting the other night for some training and I noticed the majority were using iPhones that were primarily 6/6s and even some iPhone 5s models. Some of the employees I was talking to hardly any knowledge about the iPhone X at all and had no desire to want to upgrade from their phones because it does exactly what they need it to. That's called real world experience versus somebody like us who are more prone to want to upgrade to the latest device because we are more tech oriented.