I never really enjoyed Enterprise. Especially when it got in to those time travelling episodes. More holes than a cheese grater.
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Agreed.
I think the lead character - both the actor, and the role - were poorly conceived - a sixties cliché out of time - while the rest of the ensemble were shamefully underused.
I stopped watching it quite early.
Ugh, one of my most despised characters in Star Trek.
Coming (back) to a TV screen near you! 
Digitally remastered at that! and this saves me from scrounging video vaults to find the rest of the series. And normally, seeing a 'digitally remastered' version would make me cringe (yes, I'm looking at you, Star Wars), but as Brian Henson is personally involved with this, it should be okay.
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainm...rn-as-remastered-version-20161010-grzcre.html
My children and I can't wait. Now, to go find that Ben Folds Five video...
BL.
Digitally remastered at that! and this saves me from scrounging video vaults to find the rest of the series. And normally, seeing a 'digitally remastered' version would make me cringe (yes, I'm looking at you, Star Wars), but as Brian Henson is personally involved with this, it should be okay.
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainm...rn-as-remastered-version-20161010-grzcre.html
My children and I can't wait.
Now, to go find that Ben Folds Five video...BL.
Coming (back) to a TV screen near you!
Digitally remastered at that! and this saves me from scrounging video vaults to find the rest of the series. And normally, seeing a 'digitally remastered' version would make me cringe (yes, I'm looking at you, Star Wars), but as Brian Henson is personally involved with this, it should be okay.
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainm...rn-as-remastered-version-20161010-grzcre.html
My children and I can't wait.
BL.
Yes, a timeless classic. Enjoy it and I hope it lives up to your expectations (and, more importantly, your memories).
First episode of Westworld. Didn't really hook me but will watch one or two episodes more to see where it leads. I liked the movie a lot and always thougth it was too short to really exploit the set-up / too bad if the series could help with that but doesn't deliver, feels too polished so far - so I doubt they will go into unchartered territories.
But it had some interesting scenes and Anthony Hopkins is fun to watch no final judgement so far.
But it had some interesting scenes and Anthony Hopkins is fun to watch no final judgement so far.
The second episode was a bit better I think. I'll be watching this show regularly.
Good to know - we'll see. There isn't really any other show of interest for me so I might watch it regularily if it keeps me a bit intrigued. The whole Anthony/Creator angle was by far the most interesting thing so the ending did land on the right note.
Did you see Futureland by any chance? Any good?
Did you see Futureland by any chance? Any good?
Okay, so we've been watching the current season of American Horror Story. The title and theme for this season is My Roanoke Nightmare. I've been thinking it was clever and fun, but holy cow, with the direction they took things in this last episode I've got to say that this is one of the most creative shows I've seen in a while. The whole premise is simply genius and it's by far the show I look forward most to watching each week. The cast is also pretty incredible with people like Kathy Bates, Cuba Gooding Jr. etc.. I really can't recommend it enough and we're only halfway through at this point.
I've seen the first episode and plan on catching at least one more. But yeah, it didn't catch my interest.
The original movie was a wild, raucous, funny, scary ride. The TV series, on the other hand, is slow-moving and lifeless. No pun intended.
I know the series doesn't have to adhere religiously to everything that was in the movie but...I thought people came to Westworld to have fun. The Westworld in the pilot was a pretty dull place to spend a vacation.
Dick Van Dyke Show reruns... Vanilla sitcom at it's best. And you wonder where Barbie came from.
4 episodes in, and I'm enjoying Westworld... Of the fall shows I'm watching, it and this season of American Horror Story are the 2 that I most look forward to each week.
I remember reading a relevant quote somewhere recently, and I don't remember where unfortunately, but it went something like: "The only thing more terrifying than an AI that passes the Turing test is one that intentionally fails it."
I remember reading a relevant quote somewhere recently, and I don't remember where unfortunately, but it went something like: "The only thing more terrifying than an AI that passes the Turing test is one that intentionally fails it."
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Completely agree. You can see how much ambition to become the next GoT is put into it - and I stopped watching that epic soap after 1 1/2 seasons. Add a story line here and here, and another one there and half a dozen over there..ending up with scenes of half a minute / minute tops to switch back and forth between different stroy lines to be able to drag this into multiple seasons and possible spin-offs. Not my kind of entertainment. I bet the real fun will be the cliffhanger at the end of S1..
Also doesn't help that the fun-park is devoid of any fun. You don't have to be nitpicky to question this too. Repeating the exact same stories every single day with their given opportunities seems like a total fail. Imagine coming to MR and see every single day the very same thread with the very same posts...
There is also the general problem that 100% life-like and almost self-aware robots make for very confusing interaction with other guests. "Oh, so you're a human, huh? Sorry dude for ramming that piece of furniture over your head and kicking you down that flight of stairs for no real reason. **** happens."
Three episodes into Westworld and not hooked. Doubt that will change. But parts of it keep me intersted enough to likely follow on for now.
Hopkins is a robot though! Calling it now!
By contrast, I am totally hooked after 4. One of the big reveals in episode 4 is that Ed Harris' character is well known "white hat" outside the park. His performance as well as Hopkins' is what keeps me coming back.
I'm still not convinced that all of the storylines are occurring in the same timeline. Nolan loves to tell stories like this. Most recently, the conclusion to Person of Interest.
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Glad you like it!
I would love to do so myself since I love the movie and the whole premise / concept behind it.
Also agreed about Hopkins and Harris. But overall it's way to cardboardy and shiny imo while the movie was quite gritty - which is even partly to be excused since we're dealing with perfect robots - so le me put it this way: Westworld is so utterly polished that you can already see its bones. And skeletons made by Nolan aren't interesting but rather shallow and show his lack of any originality. IMHO that is of course! Never liked his pretentious movies. Except Batman Begins, I can dig that one
edit: haven't seen e4 - so skipped that part of your post.
Perhaps my opinion will change after a few more episodes, but based on what I've seen, one of the big problems is point of view....Also doesn't help that the fun-park is devoid of any fun. You don't have to be nitpicky to question this too. Repeating the exact same stories every single day with their given opportunities seems like a total fail. Imagine coming to MR and see every single day the very same thread with the very same posts...
There is also the general problem that 100% life-like and almost self-aware robots make for very confusing interaction with other guests. "Oh, so you're a human, huh? Sorry dude for ramming that piece of furniture over your head and kicking you down that flight of stairs for no real reason. **** happens."
The movie concentrated on us seeing the park through the eyes of Richard Benjamin and James Brolin, two of the guests. They were there to raise hell, so the movie was a rollicking good time that turned into a horror show. (There was also a lot of funny material about straight-laced Benjamin having a hard time getting into the spirit of things.)
The series, by contrast, is so concentrated on its existential questions that we spend almost all of our time with the robots and their creators.
I don't think the two concepts are mutually exclusive. It's just that the show leans almost entirely toward the latter, and I wish it were at least 50-50.
Regarding Westworld, the HBO series, I'm loving it quite a bit. I enjoy the look at the robots and the creators where the creators, for the most part, are trying to keep the game running smooth and the hosts within protocol, while Dr. Ford (Hopkins) seems to seek something more to be done with the robots. While each day, or episode, seems like repeat of the previous one, there are the minute differences each time that intrigue me as we start to watch the hosts, or AI, start to become self-aware and deviate from their programming. They're beginning to view the game creators as gods from another world, much like some humans do in our world and desire to know more - the advancement of their own knowledge and learning where they come from and what their purpose is.
It's this awakening of the hosts to what they are or could be that I enjoy seeing played out while the creators attempt to keep them controlled and in check. At the same time we see William, in the white hat, attempting to play the game with a moral direction and not just looking at it as a means to be "evil" as he put it to Logan (black hat) and his behavior in that he is there to randomly kill whomever he desires for no good reason. William seems to embody higher principles and compassion toward the hosts regardless of the fact that they're robots and treats them as if they were humans.
Then we have the Man in Black (Harris) who's been playing the game for 30 years and has essentially seen it all and wants to find the key to the maze which is the game. I still haven't fully understood exactly what he is seeking though. But he's ruthless in his quest to find his answers and will treat the hosts without regard until he succeeds. I certainly see a confrontation between him and the creators down the road as he gets closer to figuring the game out.
It's this awakening of the hosts to what they are or could be that I enjoy seeing played out while the creators attempt to keep them controlled and in check. At the same time we see William, in the white hat, attempting to play the game with a moral direction and not just looking at it as a means to be "evil" as he put it to Logan (black hat) and his behavior in that he is there to randomly kill whomever he desires for no good reason. William seems to embody higher principles and compassion toward the hosts regardless of the fact that they're robots and treats them as if they were humans.
Then we have the Man in Black (Harris) who's been playing the game for 30 years and has essentially seen it all and wants to find the key to the maze which is the game. I still haven't fully understood exactly what he is seeking though. But he's ruthless in his quest to find his answers and will treat the hosts without regard until he succeeds. I certainly see a confrontation between him and the creators down the road as he gets closer to figuring the game out.
Agreed with the whole of your post but to this I have to add that, while change of perspective is not a problem per se imho it's just that it isn't done that well.
Also, I do get the whole "awakening" part - like an enlightenment fast forward (but presented in slo-mo
) with deep philosphical and theological questions. Questions about life and death, indentity and role-play, Who Am I? and such - it's just so heavy handed and spoon fed - every single scene is meaningful and an important piece of the giant puzzle only Nolan could have figured out.. I'm rambling now but I'm a bit let down because I had hoped for more. This is streamlined series food, excellent production but nothing we haven't seen already imo.And those super stylized intro-teasers..ugh.
My girlfriend always sees them nowadays when passing by, moans that they all look / sound the same since probably True Detective S1 and leaves.
edit: Funny, SG ninja'd me.
Black Mirror, Season 3 recently premiered, it's an anthology series, a mix of Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, a contemporary (or future) perspective on modern civilization, so a lot of focus on technology, its impact, etc.
It's generally fantastic, it's a British production, featuring many US actors, the only downside being a Season (or in British parlance, "Series"), is _very_ short. S1 and S2 were three EPs each, there was a special (I keep forgetting to watch), but S3 extended the run to 6 episodes.
Watched the first two, they're both a solid A, so good. If you like thoughtful SciFi, with a little satire, but that tends to go a little dark (i.e., the consequences of X are usually bad), I'd HIGHLY recommend it.
It's generally fantastic, it's a British production, featuring many US actors, the only downside being a Season (or in British parlance, "Series"), is _very_ short. S1 and S2 were three EPs each, there was a special (I keep forgetting to watch), but S3 extended the run to 6 episodes.
Watched the first two, they're both a solid A, so good. If you like thoughtful SciFi, with a little satire, but that tends to go a little dark (i.e., the consequences of X are usually bad), I'd HIGHLY recommend it.
Modern Family Season 8 started in Sept, just found it on Apple TV 4th Gen. Still wonderful!
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