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rui no onna

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You have all 3 models? :D

Yup. Got the Pro 11 & 12.9 first. The 9-11" class iPads used to be my EDC. I had a Mini 4 but it was sluggish so I didn't like using it.

I got the Mini 6 later and it was good enough to replace the 11 as my EDC.

As long as these things last me 7+ years, I don't mind buying the complete set (assuming Apple doesn't increase prices for 1TB cellular so ~$700/yr or ~$60/mo amortized cost).
 
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3JL

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Great to be back in one of these “waiting with excitement frustration” threads 😂

A thought: somewhere a matte display option was rumoured. Would this (automatically) mean that the screen will be less slippery for the pencil? (And hence give a better writing experience?)
 

xxray

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But I think majority of us don’t really care about the releasing angle of it… the issue is why not announce it already.

Vision Pro was announced last year in June and preorders happened January, while it shipped in February. Not sure what’s the mystery behind the delay in announcing it. And I understand the Vision Pro is a whole new platform… so, that calls for a different rollout.

But we been getting a steady course of articles regarding the upcoming OLED iPad Pro since late last year. They could announce it and push back the date if it’s not quite ready.

You can’t really do this for an existing product line because you’d nuke the sales for the iPads that are currently available. No one would want to buy the M2 iPad Pro for the same price as the M3 once it’s announced. And Apple doesn’t want to reduce the price of an M2 if they don’t have a shiny new full price one able to ship yet either.

Apple also doesn’t want to stop selling the M2 iPads if they can’t get the M3 iPads in customers’ hands. It’s a bad experience for the customer and they’d probably lose some who couldn’t wait.
 

Ludatyk

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You can’t really do this for an existing product line because you’d nuke the sales for the iPads that are currently available. No one would want to buy the M2 iPad Pro for the same price as the M3 once it’s announced. And Apple doesn’t want to reduce the price of an M2 if they don’t have a shiny new full price one able to ship yet either.

Apple also doesn’t want to stop selling the M2 iPads if they can’t get the M3 iPads in customers’ hands. It’s a bad experience for the customer and they’d probably lose some who couldn’t wait.
I understand your point. But I think it's much ado about nothing, given the clockwork release of iPhones in the fall... Apple never misses a beat, and iPhones still sell like hotcakes when it launches.
 

UltimateSyn

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I understand your point. But I think it's much ado about nothing, given the clockwork release of iPhones in the fall... Apple never misses a beat, and iPhones still sell like hotcakes when it launches.
People are oblivious to this day about Apple’s yearly September iPhone releases, though. They still buy iPhones in August having absolutely no clue that a new iPhone is just weeks away. It blows my mind every year.

It’s a different story when you announce the new features, show the new shiny renders, and put it on your website though. There is approximately zero benefit for Apple to formally announce new iPads before they’re imminent, other than to satiate the desires of us rabid iPad Fanboys.
 

Ludatyk

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People are oblivious to this day about Apple’s yearly September iPhone releases, though. They still buy iPhones in August having absolutely no clue that a new iPhone is just weeks away. It blows my mind every year.

It’s a different story when you announce the new features, show the new shiny renders, and put it on your website though. There is approximately zero benefit for Apple to formally announce new iPads before they’re imminent, other than to satiate the desires of us rabid iPad Fanboys.
Maybe, you are right. But I think it applies to both... there's plenty of discounts already available for the M2 iPad Pros and once Apple announce the price for these OLED iPad Pros... those that recently scooped up a discounted M2 Pro will decide that the price is too much for the OLED iPads (already seeing that in this thread).

Imagine announcing it early... seeing the price of it, that could potentially push more consumers toward the (discounted) M2 Pro or maybe the M3 MBA. And whichever the consumer decides... the money goes into Apple's pocket.
 
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Maybe, you are right. But I think it applies to both... there's plenty of discounts already available for the M2 iPad Pros and once Apple announce the price for these OLED iPad Pros... those that recently scooped up a discounted M2 Pro will decide that the price is too much for the OLED iPads (already seeing that in this thread).

Imagine announcing it early... seeing the price of it, that could potentially push more consumers toward the (discounted) M2 Pro or maybe the M3 MBA. And whichever the consumer decides... the money goes into Apple's pocket.
They would rather try to convince you to pay more for the new one.
 

muzzy996

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They would rather try to convince you to pay more for the new one.
Sadly for them, they have been failing miserably at doing that for some of us for a few years now but my wallet isn't complaining.

I don't know why I had felt that Apple Silicon was going to change the way I saw their products but somehow I had the expectation that things would become less complicated and more affordable. Instead the product lines have become increasingly fragmented and things feel akin to shopping for a new car while having to pay extra to unlock additional cylinders in the engine and be able to use each door and the trunk. The fundamental products are very capable but everything is structured to make you want to climb the pricing ladders in every single product line just to get a tiny bit more out of something that will basically do the same thing. It has become tiresome and makes it difficult to want to stay wholly within their ecosystem. Capitalism at its finest I suppose and there's nothing wrong with that. I just have to vote with my wallet and continue to only buy what I need when I need it.
 
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AppleWhy

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I have just been watching this forum and it’s so funny seeing the disappointment (Mine included) I’m kinda desperate at this point for answers and was thinking since the iPad Air is using normal screen tech and the MA came out early last month, could we see an IPad Air early this month and then Pro’s early next month? It may make sense for an April 9th for the air like some people were thinking for the pros. Anyone think this is a possibility?
 

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I have just been watching this forum and it’s so funny seeing the disappointment (Mine included) I’m kinda desperate at this point for answers and was thinking since the iPad Air is using normal screen tech and the MA came out early last month, could we see an IPad Air early this month and then Pro’s early next month? It may make sense for an April 9th for the air like some people were thinking for the pros. Anyone think this is a possibility?
I think announcing airs before pros would canablize pro sales which I don’t think Apple would do since it’s the more expensive product by a significant amount
 
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I think announcing airs before pros would canablize pro sales which I don’t think Apple would do since it’s the more expensive product by a significant amount
It would also piss a lot of Air buyers off.

"Well if I'd known this new Pro was coming out three weeks later, I would've waited!"
 

Turfschipper

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But when they have oled issues. Why dont they release the new ipad air?

Read so many reports they would be announced together. So, i assume the air is ready to ship.
 

Ludatyk

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It would also piss a lot of Air buyers off.

"Well if I'd known this new Pro was coming out three weeks later, I would've waited!"
I completely understand this angle, but I think you missing the point that this price might scare off potential buyers.
 

nj-morris

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That may well be, but I don't see it as an excuse. It just makes no sense to me. The iPad Pro is already at a point where it is overpriced and overpowered for a lot of people, considering its software limitations. Then Apple, instead of just adding "regular" OLED (like they did with the iPhone and like their competitors do), decides to go down this route of some special dual stack OLED, and the real reason is clear - it will be an excuse to jack up the price again.

They're adding something expensive that no one asked for and will market it as a geat new feature, while they simply could have given the iPads OLED screens that don't come with a price bump and then later work to take the extra step of making the OLED screen even better. This way they're just skipping a step and going straight for something that no one else uses, which would be fine if not for the price bump.

The argument that it will last much longer than normal OLED displays is bizarre to me because there are no problems with the durability of OLED screens on iPhones and Samsung tablets, so I feel like this is solving an issue that doesn't exist, at least not yet. The delay is the least of it. I'm not complaining about something that is new and good, I'm criticizing the decision to introduce something expensive to a product that already costs more than it should. FFS, people are actually giving up on these new Pros and instead buying MacBooks, and some are even saving money along the way. It's insane.
I don't understand your logic here. You bring up the iPad's software limitations to justify the claim that the iPad is overpriced, fine, that might be the case for you, but you're just emphasising that the iPad is a consumer device, and OLED is a consumer upgrade. Ordinary consumers aren't going to know what a dual-stack OLED is, but they'll notice that it will be a best-in-class viewing experience. It's not an excuse to bump up the price, because it costs Apple money to order these new displays, any price bump that would happen as a result of this change would just be to make up for that extra cost. If it weren't an upgrade that Apple didn't actually feel that their customers would value in the long-run, they wouldn't have the incentive to do it in the first place.
 
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